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April 13, 2014, 11:49:07 AM Last edit: April 13, 2014, 12:02:42 PM by Arbitrageur |
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the last Vircurex quarterly report was released by KUMALA, owner of vircurex whose identity is still unknown to many I had a look at the numbers and they don't add up!! in the May 2013 report he wrote: The total losses of the security breach are 1454 BTC 225,263 TRC 23,400 LTCand in the august report: FTC double spend attack causing a loss of 150,000 FTC
but now this is what he writes: BTC: Number accounts with frozen balances 352 Total frozen amount 1,748.50 BTCFTC Number accounts with frozen balances 42 Total frozen amount 152,106.24 FTC LTC Number accounts with frozen balances 2625 Total frozen amount 125,883.05 LTCTRC Number accounts with frozen balances 77 Total frozen amount 127,835.98 TRC so BTC were 1454 now are 1748 = 294 more LTC were 23400 now are 125883 = 102483 more, total in btc at these prices 3184! FTC more or less the same for equivalent 30 BTC TRC were 225263 now are only 127835, so almost half of it, for an equivalent of about 38 btc Total BTC missing: 1748+3184+30+38 = 5000 BTC This is a scam, there's no further doubt about it! somehow he made disappear 2800 more BTC in the last months without saying anything. I believe that at this stage and with no chance to recover any of those frozen funds, this guy needs to be identified. Any help from the community to trace and report this guy to the authorities is top priority now. Let's find him.
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April 13, 2014, 12:13:19 PM |
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This is a scam, there's no further doubt about it! somehow he made disappear 2800 more BTC in the last months without saying anything. I believe that at this stage and with no chance to recover any of those frozen funds, this guy needs to be identified. Any help from the community to trace and report this guy to the authorities is top priority now. Let's find him.
+1 we need explain from kumala, without more information don't trade anymore with this exchangei wanna found this scammer any help with information about this guy is appreciate lol in the meantime from vircurex website: "We have taken the utmost care to provide you with a stable, performant and secure environment. Nevertheless, as part of our continuous improvement program" well done idiot![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Foi62.tinypic.com%2Fxaqqvs.jpg&t=665&c=YkAUjbtmjkmfKQ)
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Arbitrageur (OP)
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April 13, 2014, 12:13:32 PM Last edit: April 13, 2014, 12:32:05 PM by Arbitrageur |
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where are the people that have been scammed by kumala? 125k missing litecoins is a huge number! a total of 5000 missing BTC is crazy for such small exchange where are you guys? do you realize that at an average of 25 btc volume per day, and 0.2% fee on each leg of the trade, it's going to take 138 years to refund those money? or even more since the scammer keeps paying interest on deposits out of trading fees: Earn interest on BTC, LTC and PPC account balances We now pay interest on BTC, LTC, PPC, NVC and WDC account balances, they are paid multiple times every day. Check out the help for details.
STOP USING VIRCUREX. kumala has to be reported to the police and put in jail for fraud
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April 13, 2014, 09:25:17 PM |
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I totally agree that this liar and scoundrel must find ...
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April 14, 2014, 02:03:53 AM |
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I noticed the discrepancy too. I'm convinced all the numbers are made up, he's just optimizing the scam potential. The company doesn't exist. Have you seen the pump and dumps on their cryptostocks site? What a joke, of the 5 or 6 I checked, 1 was verifiably fake, the rest were very suspicious/probably fake, and none with legitimate business registrations or anything that would indicate they were real.
The other thing is, a company or individual can't just withhold funds/property because they think it is the best move. They either negotiate or they declare bankruptcy, they can't say "woops, can't give you back your property, maybe you can get it in a year or never". If anyone could do what they are doing, then every company on earth would pull this stunt when they run out of money.
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April 14, 2014, 11:30:45 AM |
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and you guys didn't see this coming after the 2013 report he gave?
lol
unless you didn't do your due diligence you shouldn't have sent funds to that exchange.
Hopefully those who lost funds will learn from this mistake.
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April 14, 2014, 11:52:40 AM |
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bad news for those who have lost coins here. i agree it looks more like scam all the time. very difficult top spot though, before i used vircurex often but luckily stopped some time ago.
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Pimpmycoin
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April 14, 2014, 12:16:32 PM |
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and you guys didn't see this coming after the 2013 report he gave?
lol
unless you didn't do your due diligence you shouldn't have sent funds to that exchange.
Hopefully those who lost funds will learn from this mistake.
lol another useless lessons of life do you know the difference between 2013 hack and 2014 scam? anyway this 3d is a warning for new users about cryptostock and vircurex Hopefully you wrote 3d like this in 2013
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Arbitrageur (OP)
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April 14, 2014, 01:44:22 PM Last edit: April 14, 2014, 02:20:16 PM by Arbitrageur |
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and you guys didn't see this coming after the 2013 report he gave?
lol
unless you didn't do your due diligence you shouldn't have sent funds to that exchange.
Hopefully those who lost funds will learn from this mistake.
I didn't know the exchange was operating on fractional reserve, otherwise I wouldn't have kept a single dime on it. Why all you fucking "I know it all" didn't open a thread and kept it on top of this section all the fucking time to inform the people and prevent this huge scam??
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Arbitrageur (OP)
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April 14, 2014, 03:30:38 PM |
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KUMALA answer these questions: how did you lose 100,000 ltc and 300 BTC in the last few months? where are they? why are they missing on top of the missing amount due the 2013 hack? has been there another HACK?? again??? ANSWER KUMALA.. ANSWER these simple questions!
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April 14, 2014, 05:36:57 PM |
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has been there another HACK?? again??? ANSWER KUMALA.. ANSWER these simple questions! yep explain [ ] new hack [ ] kumala is a scammer
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April 15, 2014, 06:07:34 AM |
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and you guys didn't see this coming after the 2013 report he gave?
lol
unless you didn't do your due diligence you shouldn't have sent funds to that exchange.
Hopefully those who lost funds will learn from this mistake.
lol another useless lessons of life do you know the difference between 2013 hack and 2014 scam? anyway this 3d is a warning for new users about cryptostock and vircurex Hopefully you wrote 3d like this in 2013 The difference is irrelevant. Anyone who knew of the Vircurex report in 2013 showing substantial losses should not have put a penny into their trading account with VIRCUREX. Period. Not much of a useless lesson if I, for example, refused to use that exchange once the hack of 2013 happened and they were in the negative. LESSON THAT WAS USEFUL lol...
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April 15, 2014, 06:15:06 AM |
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and you guys didn't see this coming after the 2013 report he gave?
lol
unless you didn't do your due diligence you shouldn't have sent funds to that exchange.
Hopefully those who lost funds will learn from this mistake.
I didn't know the exchange was operating on fractional reserve, otherwise I wouldn't have kept a single dime on it. Why all you fucking "I know it all" didn't open a thread and kept it on top of this section all the fucking time to inform the people and prevent this huge scam?? 1. Just because you failed to do your research on said hacked company is not my fault. You are an idiot for not doing so. 2. The reason I never kept a thread on top of this section is because I have more important things to do in my life like taking care of my own family etc. 3. LOL Even if I kept a thread at the top of this subforum people would have gotten scammed anyway. It isn't my job to protect and prevent EVERYONE from getting scammed. 4. It is YOUR responsibility to make sure you do not get scammed (if you do in fact not like people taking your money). ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) 5. Never did I say "I know it all". I thought it was just humorous that people still get caught by the mistake of NOT DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE INVESTING AND TRADING WITH A 3RD PARTY. HARSH TRUTH: Anytime you send funds, coins, money to a 3rd party you accept the responsibility and risk that goes along with doing that. I.e. that you could lose EVERYTHING.As I said before, hopefully this event will serve a valuable lesson for the future. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 15, 2014, 06:20:00 AM |
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KUMALA answer these questions: how did you lose 100,000 ltc and 300 BTC in the last few months? where are they? why are they missing on top of the missing amount due the 2013 hack? has been there another HACK?? again??? ANSWER KUMALA.. ANSWER these simple questions! As much as you do not like my blunt personality, I do desire to hear from Kumala as much as you do on how these additional coins were lost.
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April 15, 2014, 09:21:39 AM |
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2. The reason I never kept a thread on top of this section is because I have more important things to do in my life like taking care of my own family etc.
lol but you have time now to post here your useless comments you don't understand and i repeat again this for you: this 3d is an advice for new users to stay away from kumala activities
my btc are lost, but if you wanna clean this place from fucking scammer like kumala, support us with more information about kumala and stop your useless comments
this is usefull for the community!!
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Arbitrageur (OP)
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April 15, 2014, 09:28:26 AM |
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2. The reason I never kept a thread on top of this section is because I have more important things to do in my life like taking care of my own family etc.
lol but you have time now to post here your useless comments go fucking take care of you lousy dog you idiot
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April 15, 2014, 06:33:56 PM |
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2. The reason I never kept a thread on top of this section is because I have more important things to do in my life like taking care of my own family etc.
lol but you have time now to post here your useless comments you don't understand and i repeat again this for you: this 3d is an advice for new users to stay away from kumala activities
my btc are lost, but if you wanna clean this place from fucking scammer like kumala, support us with more information about kumala and stop your useless comments
this is usefull for the community!! You miss the point that I have in the past called out Kumala when their exchange was hacked in 2013. No one responded and no one kept up the discussion. The fact that I have called many scams out before they fell (BTCST, MTGOX, VIRCUREX) is USEFUL enough. You forget one important fact, I do not have to do what you say. Hence why I will continue to post my "useless" comments as you say. Deal with it!. lol HARSH TRUTH: Anytime you send funds, coins, money to a 3rd party you accept the responsibility and risk that goes along with doing that. I.e. that you could lose EVERYTHING.^ The above bolded comment is very very USEFUL. You should take it and run with it in the future. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 15, 2014, 07:18:06 PM |
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You miss the point that I have in the past called out Kumala when their exchange was hacked in 2013. No one responded and no one kept up the discussion.
no you miss this point: with this 3d, same as your in the past, we want to warn community about kumala but i prefer no one reply here rather than an useless reply like your
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April 15, 2014, 08:34:45 PM |
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You miss the point that I have in the past called out Kumala when their exchange was hacked in 2013. No one responded and no one kept up the discussion.
no you miss this point: with this 3d, same as your in the past, we want to warn community about kumala but i prefer no one reply here rather than an useless reply like your Talking to you is like talking to a wall. If I called out kumala don't you think I tried to warn people by doing just that? My comments here have value and if you see no value in them then that is your problem and I suggest you cry more. Lol ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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