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April 15, 2014, 05:51:26 AM
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Ahh don't worry about it....  :-). We are all bitcoiners, we should all be on the same side.  
agreed we are all human. but some people new to the economy want to instantly be proclaimed as gods. if only we had the noob section back so that they had time to learn a thing or two

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April 15, 2014, 05:56:26 AM
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You see, when people come to "check" out bitcoin on forums like this, you will be quick to tell them how anything they say is unoriginal as you have been there and done that and already discussed it a year ago already *yawn* how boring for you, right?   You will let them know that they should use the search feature of the forum and spend hours searching years of posts to try to find one that manages to address their unique CURRENT question or comment. You will be sure to tell them to use google, and search through the 10s of 1000s of web pages created by bitcasino and bitfaucet sites to try to find a legit answer that is actually up-to-date.

Well... you 're right here. When I joined as newbie, I also went through a lot of frustration the same way. On the other hand, think of the people who have answered the same questions over and over, with utmost dedication and have spent hours (or even days) of time on forum answering such questions on forum and they still see the same question being posted all over the forum on daily basis from newbies who would not like to search or browse the forum. Surely they also have 'real life' outside the forum same as newbies who post the questions, right?

So what I'd like to propose for both kind of people to be happy is develop a 'Grand Bitcoin FAQ - The Newbie Version' and pin it. Compile the most frequent newbie questions that have already been answered on the forum and list them under one thread. And let every newbie on the forum go through it. Maybe we can also work out some notification which alerts a newly joined member to first go through the FAQ topic before they can post any new topic.

Sounds like a plan?
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April 15, 2014, 05:58:41 AM
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Completely agree with OP.
Even if I'm early adopter and own bitcasino I've seen the same attitude in this community. Quite unfriendly.
That's not the way! Take example from the shibes.

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April 15, 2014, 06:03:28 AM
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So what I'd like to propose for both kind of people to be happy is develop a 'Grand Bitcoin FAQ - The Newbie Version'

Sounds like a plan?

bitcoin wiki, and bitcoin.org already exist for this purpose

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April 15, 2014, 06:17:28 AM
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So what I'd like to propose for both kind of people to be happy is develop a 'Grand Bitcoin FAQ - The Newbie Version'

Sounds like a plan?

bitcoin wiki, and bitcoin.org already exist for this purpose

Yup, but there are lot of newbie questions they don't cover.
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April 15, 2014, 06:18:34 AM
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You see, when people come to "check" out bitcoin on forums like this, you will be quick to tell them how anything they say is unoriginal as you have been there and done that and already discussed it a year ago already *yawn* how boring for you, right?   You will let them know that they should use the search feature of the forum and spend hours searching years of posts to try to find one that manages to address their unique CURRENT question or comment. You will be sure to tell them to use google, and search through the 10s of 1000s of web pages created by bitcasino and bitfaucet sites to try to find a legit answer that is actually up-to-date.

Well... you 're right here. When I joined as newbie, I also went through a lot of frustration the same way. On the other hand, think of the people who have answered the same questions over and over, with utmost dedication and have spent hours (or even days) of time on forum answering such questions on forum and they still see the same question being posted all over the forum on daily basis from newbies who would not like to search or browse the forum. Surely they also have 'real life' outside the forum same as newbies who post the questions, right?

So what I'd like to propose for both kind of people to be happy is develop a 'Grand Bitcoin FAQ - The Newbie Version' and pin it. Compile the most frequent newbie questions that have already been answered on the forum and list them under one thread. And let every newbie on the forum go through it. Maybe we can also work out some notification which alerts a newly joined member to first go through the FAQ topic before they can post any new topic.

Sounds like a plan?

and after reading such FAQ they will never have another question related to the basics?

please tell me more of this FAQ that takes into account all levels of education and learning styles and provides them with complete comprehension upon reading...


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April 15, 2014, 06:21:33 AM
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thats a 25% rate. my rate of starting topics is 1.48%




I am willing to wager this phenom mimics both of us in real life also!

The difference in a leader and a follower - an originator and an instigator - a warrior and a troll!


yes ooh mighty lord, i shall stroke your ego, i shall follow you to the ends of the earth dear lord.
bless you for returning to earth after 2000 years.

... now STFU and crawl back under your bridge

you just can't stay away from me can you?  bwahahahahaha

you are on EVERY THREAD I have started....and can't shut up!

and yet i have yet to comment on any thread you started....

man, when I am the focus of someone life and they are not my wife...that is cause for that individual to seek counseling!

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April 15, 2014, 06:26:10 AM
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So what I'd like to propose for both kind of people to be happy is develop a 'Grand Bitcoin FAQ - The Newbie Version'

Sounds like a plan?

bitcoin wiki, and bitcoin.org already exist for this purpose

Yup, but there are lot of newbie questions they don't cover.

which is where the wiki and bitcoin.org can be updated. and the noobs can use search functions on this forum before repeating the same questions as others have. i just find it funny when questions pop up on this forum that do have answers in those 2 places.. noobs have proven themselves time and times again that they dont do research, they just hit the new topic button. its only after maybe 100 random posts that they start realizing that this forum is not an encyclopedia with paid customer service reps, that they then meander off to begin research

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you just can't stay away from me can you?  bwahahahahaha

you are on EVERY THREAD I have started....and can't shut up!

and yet i have yet to comment on any thread you started....

man, when I am the focus of someone life and they are not my wife...that is cause for that individual to seek counseling!
to the lord and masterful. i wish to stroke your ego,
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im being sarcastic, you are not a god, so stop thinking because someone talks to you, they are you flock of sheep.  not everyone that responds to you is a follower of your religion, so get back under your bridge. the quote i just posted from you, is that of a person that has a big ego and deserves to be insulted.. seriously.. your EGO is bigger then the big apple.. no one is following you.. you weird little man

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April 15, 2014, 06:27:12 AM
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You see, when people come to "check" out bitcoin on forums like this, you will be quick to tell them how anything they say is unoriginal as you have been there and done that and already discussed it a year ago already *yawn* how boring for you, right?   You will let them know that they should use the search feature of the forum and spend hours searching years of posts to try to find one that manages to address their unique CURRENT question or comment. You will be sure to tell them to use google, and search through the 10s of 1000s of web pages created by bitcasino and bitfaucet sites to try to find a legit answer that is actually up-to-date.

Well... you 're right here. When I joined as newbie, I also went through a lot of frustration the same way. On the other hand, think of the people who have answered the same questions over and over, with utmost dedication and have spent hours (or even days) of time on forum answering such questions on forum and they still see the same question being posted all over the forum on daily basis from newbies who would not like to search or browse the forum. Surely they also have 'real life' outside the forum same as newbies who post the questions, right?

So what I'd like to propose for both kind of people to be happy is develop a 'Grand Bitcoin FAQ - The Newbie Version' and pin it. Compile the most frequent newbie questions that have already been answered on the forum and list them under one thread. And let every newbie on the forum go through it. Maybe we can also work out some notification which alerts a newly joined member to first go through the FAQ topic before they can post any new topic.

Sounds like a plan?

and after reading such FAQ they will never have another question related to the basics?

please tell me more of this FAQ that takes into account all levels of education and learning styles and provides them with complete comprehension upon reading...


I'm not saying the FAQ will answer every Bitcoin-related question under the sun. I'm saying it will list all questions that have been 'already been answered on the forum'. If you don't find your answer there, use the search button a couple times; and if you still don't find a satisfactory answer, sure post it. We're glad to guide you.

I am not ready to believe that every question that comes on the forum is thrown into the dustbin right away. That's not how this forum works.
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April 15, 2014, 06:29:47 AM
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I'm not saying the FAQ will answer every Bitcoin-related question under the sun. I'm saying it will list all questions that have been 'already been answered on the forum'. If you don't find your answer there, use the search button a couple times; and if you still don't find a satisfactory answer, sure post it. We're glad to guide you.

I am not ready to believe that every question that comes on the forum is thrown into the dustbin right away. That's not how this forum works.

I would encourage you to look at the average new persons posts.   they are not lazy, they are not stupid questions like "what is a satoshi".  but they are fequently and regularly attacked for asking simple questions...that may just be conversation starters in the least.

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April 15, 2014, 06:46:23 AM
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Another noob, another dumb post.

OP, going from $0 to $450 in 5 years isn't a slow rate.

I am new around here and could not agree with the OP more.

I also don't think the value of a BTC has anything to do with the adoptive rate in the OP subject.

You were so quick to jump on him I'll bet you didn't even realize how silly your point was.




The price of Bitcoin is not a measure of its adoption rate though


 
 
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April 15, 2014, 06:53:04 AM
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I'm not saying the FAQ will answer every Bitcoin-related question under the sun. I'm saying it will list all questions that have been 'already been answered on the forum'. If you don't find your answer there, use the search button a couple times; and if you still don't find a satisfactory answer, sure post it. We're glad to guide you.

I am not ready to believe that every question that comes on the forum is thrown into the dustbin right away. That's not how this forum works.

I would encourage you to look at the average new persons posts.   they are not lazy, they are not stupid questions like "what is a satoshi".  but they are fequently and regularly attacked for asking simple questions...that may just be conversation starters in the least.

You'll find both kind of people on every forum. Just because some people trash newbies and their questions doesn't mean there are no genuine people who answer such questions with dedication. Sure, the ratio is different on every forum and here the bashing might be gaining a majority - you might be right there; but you'll also find a small bunch of genuine guys who'd be glad to help you. I'd sure hope this changes and I also want majority of people to become 'nice guys' but nothing happens how we want it, right?
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April 15, 2014, 08:50:32 AM
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This is a really entertaining thread. I agree though that earlier adopters could be a little more understanding for newbie concerns. I usually try to answer common questions, but sometimes it's really like a déja vu and you want them to figure it out themselves. Nevertheless, just be kind people!

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April 15, 2014, 09:34:12 AM
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Bitcoin is far bigger than bitcointalk.org

I don't see it holding back Bitcoin in any way. This is a forum where the fanatics hang out. In the future most bitcoin users will never even have heard of this forum, like most paypal users probably don't hang out in paypal forums.

Bitcointalk is a largely anonymous and uncensored forum, this kind of unrestrained discussion is the result.

also, all of your questions in that other thread are answered in the Wiki, perhaps this should be linked more prominently.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Myths

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April 15, 2014, 09:44:56 AM
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Bitcoin is far bigger than bitcointalk.org

Right now, around 3 million people posses Bitcoins. And Bitcointalk.org has around 300,000 members. The number of active members might be just around 30,000. So in a sense you are right. Most Bitcoiners don't have anything to do with Bitcointalk. 

But at the same time, most of the people who owns significant amounts of Bitcoin are members of Bitcointalk. I suspect that more than 90% of the Bitcoins are owned by Bitcointalk members. So it is not that simple.

                               
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April 15, 2014, 11:45:37 AM
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I agree with OP, and he continues to be proven right by some of the replies in this thread.

Likewise. I haven't spent much time on this forum, but the replies to this thread make me think the OP probably has a good point.
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Xenophobia?

More like Xenonausea.

Many times I have gone out of my way to help newbies who seemed genuinely interested.

But when I hear words like "Tulip" or "Ponzi" for the 10000th time, I just can't help feeling irritated and rolling my eyes. I'm only human.

Now combine the above with the fact that most people on this forum are young males who have not been trained in customer service.

It's hardly surprising that they are not always nice to newbies.

I don't think it's a big issue. Moderate growth is our friend.  If you can't think of a strong reason of getting into bitcoin, and "bad customer service" is all it takes to scare you away, then you probably shouldn't. At least not at this stage. Bitcoin 0.x is not ready for the mainstream yet.  

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April 15, 2014, 02:49:24 PM
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"Slow adoption rate". Yeah, that explains the crazy price increase in a year. I honestly didn't even read your argument....

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April 15, 2014, 02:52:32 PM
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Another noob, another dumb post.

OP, going from $0 to $450 in 5 years isn't a slow rate.

It could even go to $1 trillion and who cares if nobody is going to touch it?
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April 15, 2014, 04:01:04 PM
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Xenophobia?

More like Xenonausea.

Many times I have gone out of my way to help newbies who seemed genuinely interested.

But when I hear words like "Tulip" or "Ponzi" for the 10000th time, I just can't help feeling irritated and rolling my eyes. I'm only human.

Now combine the above with the fact that most people on this forum are young males who have not been trained in customer service.

It's hardly surprising that they are not always nice to newbies.

I don't think it's a big issue. Moderate growth is our friend.  If you can't think of a strong reason of getting into bitcoin, and "bad customer service" is all it takes to scare you away, then you probably shouldn't. At least not at this stage. Bitcoin 0.x is not ready for the mainstream yet.  


If you got out of what i said that "bad customer service" is scaring people away, you missed the point, friend.

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