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People seem to forget what Bitcoin truly stands for sometimes and its disheartening. Bitcoin is not a get rich scheme or even remotely close to that. Bitcoin is a promise for freedom that no other fiat currency can provide. It is something that will only succeed if people want it to succeed, and it benefits everyone who uses it. Tbh everyone that I see who calls it a ponzi scheme or something arbitrary just doesn't understand it. They look at Bitcoin like every other asset and forget that its completely different. People in countries in Africa can't economically compete with people in America, but Bitcoin changes that. It provides a currency that is amoral and benefits everyone equally. Don't be distracted by short term moves in price and instead be focused on the fundamentals. That's all that really matters. Here's some articles elaborating on this if interested: http://www.panture.com/why-bitcoin-matters/http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/why-bitcoin-matters/ - This ones by Marc Andreesen, prominent defender
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April 15, 2014, 09:48:47 AM |
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April 15, 2014, 09:53:35 AM |
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Agree. But unfortunately people hear about the huge yearly % increases and just see $$$ signs ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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April 15, 2014, 11:05:09 AM |
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Yeah many here dont really care about buying items with bitcoin, there looking to make quick bucks which is sad,
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April 15, 2014, 11:26:20 AM |
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thats why we love bitcoin and its the future
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April 15, 2014, 01:29:08 PM |
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Bitcoin promises nothing, just promises early adopter rich.
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April 15, 2014, 08:53:14 PM |
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Bitcoin promises nothing, just promises early adopter rich.
every investment promises early adopters to be rich. To make a fair distribution for a new currency requires a centralized distributer, which totally don't mix with humans.
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April 15, 2014, 09:04:00 PM |
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Bitcoin promises nothing, just promises early adopter rich.
bitcoin will be around for hundreds of years (2140 atleast)... so you being here now, makes you an early adopter. so dont complain. satoshi, was not rich 12 months after starting bitcoin, gavinA wasn't rich 12 months later. but now 3-4 years have passed. those first adopters are rich. and if you are still interested in bitcoin after 3-5 years, you will be too. but in all cases, you need to put your own individual effort in to get good results in return. satoshi and gavin truly 'earned' the results they have got. and anyone that can pt effort into making bitcoin better, can do the same to maximise their wealth
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I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER. Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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April 15, 2014, 11:06:35 PM |
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Agreed, many need to get back to basics and remember what BTC is and not focus so much on the day to day price swings. BTC is here to stay.
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Agree. But unfortunately people hear about the huge yearly % increases and just see $$$ signs ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) And this is exactly why it will succeed. There is more money to be made with bitcoin than anything else the financial sector can offer. Bitcoin will inevitably fills the holes in broken economic systems around the world.
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April 16, 2014, 12:48:55 AM |
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People seem to forget what Bitcoin truly stands for sometimes and its disheartening People seem to forget that they do not have the collective wisdom to tell everyone what bitcoin is to them.
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April 16, 2014, 12:53:31 AM |
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Agree. But unfortunately people hear about the huge yearly % increases and just see $$$ signs ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) And this is exactly why it will succeed. There is more money to be made with bitcoin than anything else the financial sector can offer. Bitcoin will inevitably fills the holes in broken economic systems around the world. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) Beautifully said
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April 16, 2014, 12:59:21 AM |
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People seem to forget what Bitcoin truly stands for sometimes and its disheartening People seem to forget that they do not have the collective wisdom to tell everyone what bitcoin is to them. It's more disheartening that people don't understand what fractional reserve banking and inflation are. They are ignorant so they get screwed by the banksters and PTB. At least being ignorant of the freedom that bitcoin offers does not directly harm them. They will get taken along for the ride ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 16, 2014, 01:22:01 AM |
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People seem to forget what Bitcoin truly stands for sometimes and its disheartening People seem to forget that they do not have the collective wisdom to tell everyone what bitcoin is to them. It's more disheartening that people don't understand what fractional reserve banking and inflation are. They are ignorant so they get screwed by the banksters and PTB. At least being ignorant of the freedom that bitcoin offers does not directly harm them. They will get taken along for the ride ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think most people have been apathetic to even learn about such matters because there was not much hope to escape the system. With bitcoin, everything changes.
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April 16, 2014, 06:57:43 AM |
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fiat is the bases for banker controlled government as bankers print money and get the benefit of seniorage
in a bitcoin based economy, it will be lead by people as people get the seniorage of minting bitcoin we will truely experience a real direct democratic government as the bitcoin rich can influence government and bitcoin will promote direct democracy instead of this representative democracy which clearly is not working
we will achieve true democratic utopia if bitcoin succeeds and fiat fails
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June 18, 2014, 08:40:04 AM |
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But most people want to be rich not freedom. How should I invite these people to join? I am just ashamed to say something without refering to the wealth.
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June 18, 2014, 09:04:17 AM |
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But most people want to be rich not freedom. How should I invite these people to join?
You don't. Let them fail. Freedom rewards those that embrace it the most. Those trying to get a nibble of those rewards without embracing it will ultimately fail with the rest of their brethren.
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First seastead company actually selling sea homes: Ocean Builders https://ocean.builders Of course we accept bitcoin.
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June 18, 2014, 09:55:41 AM |
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But most people want to be rich not freedom. How should I invite these people to join?
You don't. Let them fail. Freedom rewards those that embrace it the most. Those trying to get a nibble of those rewards without embracing it will ultimately fail with the rest of their brethren. good words
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June 18, 2014, 10:40:42 AM |
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Does it occur to you that the freedom many people crave, especially but not only in the developing world, is freedom from poverty?
Only people who are already financially comfortable complain that Bitcoin is about freedom, not wealth.
And in terms of marketing / promoting Bitcoin, yes, people should be told there are no guarantees, so caveat emptor. But we most certainly should also use the fact that Bitcoin has already made many earlier adopters rich, and could do so again for those who invest now.
The reason is that people act from self-interest. SN understood that. It's in everyone's interest for transactions to be processed and the block chain to be secured. But no-one is going to altruistically mine for the common good to their own detriment. So SN implemented transaction fees and block rewards. That way transactions are processed and the block chain is secured, but it happens as a result of miners wanting to become rich(er).
Why do people buy lottery tickets? You've got more chance of being trampled to death by a herd of stampeding wildebeest in the middle of Westminster Abbey than of winning millions on any national/state lottery (well, almost). But people buy those tickets anyway because they want to become rich.
Bitcoin is an investment opportunity that offers a much greater chance (though not a guarantee) of becoming rich if you invest now.
Promoting Bitcoin in a way that appeals to people's self-interest could well encourage wider adoption in my view.
When people recognise that Bitcoin could make them a lot of money when it goes mainstream and they buy some bitcoins as a result, they then have a vested interest in seeing Bitcoin succeed.
When the number of people with a vested interest in seeing Bitcoin go mainstream reaches a critical point, then major businesses will all start lining up to take payment by Bitcoin, because they want the custom of all those bitcoiners.
Bitcoin has already made earlier adopters rich. It could still make others rich if they invest now. People act from self-interest, so if we want Bitcoin to succeed we should appeal to their self-interest.
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June 18, 2014, 01:37:01 PM |
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Freedom and wealth is the same thing.
When I rant about bitcoin to random people, I get a response from about one in ten. But don't forget, many of those are statists, they think that some people have the right to push other people around. Let them roast in their own fat, say I.
(To one half persuaded guy, I had to say "Now you know, don't criticize me for not persuading you harder". He is still not in, AFAIK).
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