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Question: Do you think 100% pre-mine coins are good or bad
Good - 25 (39.7%)
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April 16, 2014, 04:56:55 PM
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Well i don't like 100% pre-mine coins .Tell me your opinion!!
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April 16, 2014, 04:58:45 PM
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There good if by good you meant to make the devs rich!


I only get into coins with ZERO (0) NO PREMINE!
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April 16, 2014, 04:59:23 PM
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It's only a good idea to invest in these if you are a stupid person

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April 16, 2014, 05:02:24 PM
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So far, one person voted yes and it wasn't me.
A large pre-mine is probably the sign of a scam.
Even a "fair" distribution probably uses sock puppets to give the dev extra.

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April 17, 2014, 04:38:59 AM
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yep..it will be good as long as the distribution is fair and transparent and so far only 2 of them are qualify with these 2 factors:
1.Comm
2.C2
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April 17, 2014, 05:56:56 AM
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Doomed to collapse in on themselves eventually.
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April 17, 2014, 06:09:49 AM
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100% premine is evil!
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April 17, 2014, 06:23:41 AM
Last edit: April 17, 2014, 07:41:44 AM by Amph
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if there is a transparent distribution why not?

if they require ipo or other garbage shit like that then hell no...
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April 17, 2014, 07:01:27 AM
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what would you do.use this coin?pos

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April 17, 2014, 07:07:48 AM
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if there is a transparent distribution why not?

if they require ipo or other garbage shit like that than hell no...
  must distribute 99

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April 17, 2014, 08:27:51 AM
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in ripple's case:  in my eyes, xrp's were not meant to be bought and held like some financial instruments like stocks and bonds or even btc. they were meant to be a bridge currency to make transactions easier. now, how can xrp fulfill its purpose if it is being hoarded?

ripple is not about xrp speculation. it is about ripple the network itself. here's one prime example of a use in ripple on a community, non-professional level:  https://xrptalk.org/topic/1865-cultivating-a-web-of-trust-for-trading-hour-ious/

but the reality of it is there will always be speculators despite of what i said above. stupid or not will depend if they make a killing or not.


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April 17, 2014, 08:44:35 AM
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As some of you guys said, if the distribution is widespread, fair and transparent then it's OK. Certainly the devs can give away coins to themselves by using sockpuppet accounts but i think that not worse than the other forms of premine or even instamining.
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April 17, 2014, 08:49:42 AM
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yep..it will be good as long as the distribution is fair and transparent and so far only 2 of them are qualify with these 2 factors:
1.Comm
2.C2

these two are Ponzi scheme for me
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April 17, 2014, 09:48:41 AM
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(When ppl will learn what "Ponzi scheme" means? FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme)
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April 17, 2014, 11:00:42 AM
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It makes all of crypto look bad when you premine 100% coins out of thin air and then put them on an exchange so they can be exchanged for real money. If you allow one of these, then you have to allow them all and then you got everybody creating coins out of thin air and the markets will implode and we will all be the the laughing stock of the real world.
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April 17, 2014, 11:11:47 AM
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A coin that had an enormous premine before launch can still function as a coin if the developers hold onto their premined coins instead of selling them. Satoshi currently has about a million bitcoins but he hasn't touched any of them and so the price of BTC isn't falling.
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April 17, 2014, 11:52:32 AM
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Premine can work as long as the public has confidence in the distribution.
NEM for instance has 3000 stakeholders.  Taint analysis was used to remove hundreds of sockpuppets and the large scale diminishes any return from sockpuppets.

In contrast - you can have something like NxT (100% premine) which only had 73 stakeholders, of which 20 owned the majority, bought all the NxT for 21 BTC.  Probably most of these 20 big stakeholders were sockpuppets since there was no taint analysis used and it was such an obscure IPO that it was likely the same people signing up multiple stakes.


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April 17, 2014, 12:23:27 PM
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Satoshi mined close to a million bitcoins in early days. Today that early mining is known as Instamine

So Bitcoin=Instamined

100% premined POS coin givenaway to people is the way to go. No precious electricity wasted for mining coins and no carbon footprint, and it is actually the most fair way to distribute coins. It also gives interest on total coins you hold.

Don't believe anyone who denies this

Coin2 did just the same - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483847.0
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April 17, 2014, 12:29:32 PM
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Satoshi mined close to a million bitcoins in early days. Today that early mining is known as Instamine

So Bitcoin=Instamined

100% premined POS coin givenaway to people is the way to go. No precious electricity wasted for mining coins and no carbon footprint, and it is actually the most fair way to distribute coins. It also gives interest on total coins you hold.

Don't believe anyone who denies this

Coin2 did just the same - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483847.0

Are you stupid...so the first 1000 or so to get in should control the entire currency? That's fair? You don't believe any counter-arguments, let me guess, because you're a holder in Coin2 and you got in before every one else, also because you're greedy as fuck and only care about making profit off of these 100% pre-mine coins?

Ehh, no, thanks, bye. Satoshi helped the network and this was over a long period of time, not a few days. That's like saying if I release x coin and mine it when it launches for a month straight, OMG INSTAMINE!! Also as far as we are aware, Satoshi has not even profited off of this so called "insta-mine". You are really quick to jump to the conclusion of "omg satoshi mined early on Bitcoin=Instamined".

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April 17, 2014, 12:32:57 PM
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poll should contain more options! Smiley

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