Betting Exchange Question

[CoinFriendApp]

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If I lay "Over 4.5 Goals", couldn't I also BACK 'Under 4.5 Goals" risk-free?

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[deadley]

If I lay "Over 4.5 Goals", couldn't I also BACK 'Under 4.5 Goals" risk-free?

Yes, laying means you are backing opposite.

[CoinFriendApp]

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If I lay "Over 4.5 Goals", couldn't I also BACK 'Under 4.5 Goals" risk-free?

Yes, laying means you are backing opposite.

Yes but how does it work if I can make an 'offer' at 1.67 then at the same time back the opposite side at 2.5. Isn't that basically arbitrage?

[deadley]

If I lay "Over 4.5 Goals", couldn't I also BACK 'Under 4.5 Goals" risk-free?

Yes, laying means you are backing opposite.

Yes but how does it work if I can make an 'offer' at 1.67 then at the same time back the opposite side at 2.5. Isn't that basically arbitrage?

It is but all depends what odds you will get on odds side, normally you will not get better odds on back side.
And if you lay over 4.5 and back under 4.5, you are just doing backing under 4.5 in both bet.

[CoinFriendApp]

It is but all depends what odds you will get on odds side, normally you will not get better odds on back side.

What do you mean? So the 2.5 I see I can't actually get? If I want to back 'Under 4.5' and I want to be 100% sure I will be matched, do I bid at 2.54?

And if you lay over 4.5 and back under 4.5, you are just doing backing under 4.5 in both bet.

Yes but the market right now says I can lay over at 1.67 but back under at 4.5.. that's what I don't get, that discrepancy.. :S

[ctlaltdefeat]

It is but all depends what odds you will get on odds side, normally you will not get better odds on back side.

What do you mean? So the 2.5 I see I can't actually get? If I want to back 'Under 4.5' and I want to be 100% sure I will be matched, do I bid at 2.54?

And if you lay over 4.5 and back under 4.5, you are just doing backing under 4.5 in both bet.

Yes but the market right now says I can lay over at 1.67 but back under at 4.5.. that's what I don't get, that discrepancy.. :S

If you back under at 2.5 and back over at 1.64 with an equal potential win, then your expected result is a loss, if that's what you're asking.

[CoinFriendApp]

It is but all depends what odds you will get on odds side, normally you will not get better odds on back side.

What do you mean? So the 2.5 I see I can't actually get? If I want to back 'Under 4.5' and I want to be 100% sure I will be matched, do I bid at 2.54?

And if you lay over 4.5 and back under 4.5, you are just doing backing under 4.5 in both bet.

Yes but the market right now says I can lay over at 1.67 but back under at 4.5.. that's what I don't get, that discrepancy.. :S

If you back under at 2.5 and back over at 1.64 with an equal potential win, then your expected result is a loss, if that's what you're asking.

Whoops you're right yeah, correction: Why would anyone LAY over at 1.67 (hoping that 'Under' happens) when they can BACK under (hoping that 'Under' happens) themselves at 2.5?

[ctlaltdefeat]

It is but all depends what odds you will get on odds side, normally you will not get better odds on back side.

What do you mean? So the 2.5 I see I can't actually get? If I want to back 'Under 4.5' and I want to be 100% sure I will be matched, do I bid at 2.54?

And if you lay over 4.5 and back under 4.5, you are just doing backing under 4.5 in both bet.

Yes but the market right now says I can lay over at 1.67 but back under at 4.5.. that's what I don't get, that discrepancy.. :S

If you back under at 2.5 and back over at 1.64 with an equal potential win, then your expected result is a loss, if that's what you're asking.

Whoops you're right yeah, correction: Why would anyone LAY over at 1.67 (hoping that 'Under' happens) when they can BACK under (hoping that 'Under' happens) themselves at 2.5?

Laying 1.67 gives raw back odds of around 2.49, so I guess it would be slightly better to back at 2.5, but not anything dramatic.
EDIT: It could be that your confusion comes from the fact that you haven't realized that 1.67 is the BACKER's odds, not the LAYER's

[CoinFriendApp]

It is but all depends what odds you will get on odds side, normally you will not get better odds on back side.

What do you mean? So the 2.5 I see I can't actually get? If I want to back 'Under 4.5' and I want to be 100% sure I will be matched, do I bid at 2.54?

And if you lay over 4.5 and back under 4.5, you are just doing backing under 4.5 in both bet.

Yes but the market right now says I can lay over at 1.67 but back under at 4.5.. that's what I don't get, that discrepancy.. :S

If you back under at 2.5 and back over at 1.64 with an equal potential win, then your expected result is a loss, if that's what you're asking.

Whoops you're right yeah, correction: Why would anyone LAY over at 1.67 (hoping that 'Under' happens) when they can BACK under (hoping that 'Under' happens) themselves at 2.5?

Laying 1.67 gives raw back odds of around 2.49, so I guess it would be slightly better to back at 2.5, but not anything dramatic.

What does raw back odds mean? :S Isn't laying at 1.67 just mean you will pay back 1.67 * [what the backer stakes]? So if I lay [Over] $100 at 1.67 then I win $60 if it's [Under], or I lose $100 if it's [Over] no?

[suryc]

I'm just curious, what betting exchange is this and what others are available out there?

[deadley]

I'm just curious, what betting exchange is this and what others are available out there?

This is Betfair, there is another 2 more Betdaq and Matchbook.
I always prefer Exchange then book because far better odds.

[ctlaltdefeat]

It is but all depends what odds you will get on odds side, normally you will not get better odds on back side.

What do you mean? So the 2.5 I see I can't actually get? If I want to back 'Under 4.5' and I want to be 100% sure I will be matched, do I bid at 2.54?

And if you lay over 4.5 and back under 4.5, you are just doing backing under 4.5 in both bet.

Yes but the market right now says I can lay over at 1.67 but back under at 4.5.. that's what I don't get, that discrepancy.. :S

If you back under at 2.5 and back over at 1.64 with an equal potential win, then your expected result is a loss, if that's what you're asking.

Whoops you're right yeah, correction: Why would anyone LAY over at 1.67 (hoping that 'Under' happens) when they can BACK under (hoping that 'Under' happens) themselves at 2.5?

Laying 1.67 gives raw back odds of around 2.49, so I guess it would be slightly better to back at 2.5, but not anything dramatic.

What does raw back odds mean? :S Isn't laying at 1.67 just mean you will pay back 1.67 * [what the backer stakes]? So if I lay [Over] $100 at 1.67 then I win $60 if it's [Under], or I lose $100 if it's [Over] no?

The 1.67 refers to what the backer gets. If you lay over at 1.67 and backer bets 100usd then if it's over you get the 100usd and if it's under you lose 67usd, leaving you with a net of 33 usd left.
It's raw because because it doesn't take into account the 5% profit commission.

[CoinFriendApp]

I get it now!! omg I had to pull out excel to do all the math.

Thanks for your help!!

[titulng]

   what is the site you bet? only this one?