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January 10, 2012, 10:12:21 PM
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I think I read somewhere that tradehill put a hold for wire transfers and ACH deposit and withdrawal. Does that means samething for bitcoins? I can't seem to withdraw or deposit bitcoins.
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January 10, 2012, 10:37:14 PM
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I think I read somewhere that tradehill put a hold for wire transfers and ACH deposit and withdrawal. Does that means samething for bitcoins? I can't seem to withdraw or deposit bitcoins.

We placed a hold on wire / ach / checks and are working to get them back up as quickly as possible.
You can still deposit and withdraw BTC. You might have delays in a few other methods.

Our bank closed the without prior warning and without giving a reason.
Thank you for your patience and we're working as fast as possible to resolve this.

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January 10, 2012, 11:02:13 PM
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Our bank closed the without prior warning and without giving a reason.
Thank you for your patience and we're working as fast as possible to resolve this.

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Jered

Jered,

what about having a bank account in some fiscal paradise, like the Channel Islands or Barbados?

Would a bank in such a place pose less restrictions to the flow of fiat money?

Best regards.

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January 11, 2012, 12:04:51 AM
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Our bank closed the without prior warning and without giving a reason.
Thank you for your patience and we're working as fast as possible to resolve this.

Regards,
Jered

Jered,

what about having a bank account in some fiscal paradise, like the Channel Islands or Barbados?

Would a bank in such a place pose less restrictions to the flow of fiat money?

Best regards.

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Yes and no. It would, but it would set off all kinds of flags. Not to mention it's not FDIC insured etc
We wouldn't be able to send cheap domestic wires like we can with a US account and I like being able to walk in to my bank and sit down with them. The offshore accounts that I've seen didn't have all the nifty stuff like an API and other advanced features but I'm sure they're out there.

Bottom line I've been told that it's not a smart idea by someone with a lot of experience in the business. Risk of bank problems would go down and US gov risk would go up.

I really like the idea and would love to bank outside the US if possible. There may be a compromise in the future involving a country that isn't shady yet isn't the US.

There is no silver bullet to this problem (possibly if you have millions and millions to throw at it). I welcome all suggestions on changes we should make to our banking setup. There might be someone who's thought of something I haven't.

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January 11, 2012, 01:38:51 AM
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Not sure if this would help, but it's worth mentioning: http://banknd.nd.gov/



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January 11, 2012, 02:03:01 AM
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what if you used a number of banks, with a few accounts with each bank? if Bank 1 wants to be uppity and reject your business, you still have banks 3, 4, and 5

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January 11, 2012, 05:24:22 AM
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Not sure if this would help, but it's worth mentioning: http://banknd.nd.gov/



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January 11, 2012, 07:01:17 AM
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what if you used a number of banks, with a few accounts with each bank? if Bank 1 wants to be uppity and reject your business, you still have banks 3, 4, and 5

This would create more problems than it solves and attract unwelcome scrutiny.

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January 11, 2012, 09:58:12 AM
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You can try to open an account in Switzerland, Liechtenstein or Luxembourg. They offer SEPA transfers from Europe and some even offer ACH transfers. Accounts can be opened in most currencies. Switzerland and Liechtenstein not being in the EU is surely a positive aspect.

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January 11, 2012, 02:41:57 PM
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Why would this create more problems? I personally have 5 bank accounts at 5 different banks, precisely for this reason. If one bank give me shit, I just remove the funds and deposit in another bank account.

what if you used a number of banks, with a few accounts with each bank? if Bank 1 wants to be uppity and reject your business, you still have banks 3, 4, and 5

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January 11, 2012, 04:33:20 PM
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I'm serious about TradeHill looking into this option: http://banknd.nd.gov/
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January 13, 2012, 03:41:59 PM
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The silence from Tradehill is deafening. 

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January 13, 2012, 08:41:36 PM
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Tradehill, have you been able to withdraw you funds from your accounts that have been frozen?

If not, are you still solvent?
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January 14, 2012, 03:47:08 AM
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BTC withdrawals work.  Just did a small one. 

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January 14, 2012, 04:12:35 AM
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BTC withdrawals work.  Just did a small one. 

I have one for over 200 that seems to be permanently in process....

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January 14, 2012, 03:09:10 PM
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I tried withdrawing my $1100 3 days ago to OKPAY.  No movement, and no email answer either.  I kind of figured this might happen eventually...feel like a total fool.
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January 15, 2012, 01:33:48 AM
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Tradehill, have you been able to withdraw you funds from your accounts that have been frozen?

If not, are you still solvent?

Yes and yes. They've been good about getting the funds back to us but they will only mail a check which takes time and more time to clear when we deposit it. This adds to the delay.

Duckfeet,

We'll get the funds to you. When we need to fund 3rd parties like Paxum or OKPAY we have to go through the traditional system which takes several business days. Until everyone starts accepting Bitcoin it's going to be this way. When the funds hit we'll get your transfer out asap.

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January 15, 2012, 04:19:39 PM
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Tradehill, have you been able to withdraw you funds from your accounts that have been frozen?

If not, are you still solvent?

Yes and yes. They've been good about getting the funds back to us but they will only mail a check which takes time and more time to clear when we deposit it. This adds to the delay.

Duckfeet,

We'll get the funds to you. When we need to fund 3rd parties like Paxum or OKPAY we have to go through the traditional system which takes several business days. Until everyone starts accepting Bitcoin it's going to be this way. When the funds hit we'll get your transfer out asap.

Jered

Well, I mean, yes, that's somewhat comforting, but the simple fact is that by not answering email, and by not letting us know--on Tradehill, not here--that there is a delay of days, not hours, it's still fairly unnerving.  I appreciate you letting me know that I'll get my money 'eventually' but it's still a very uncomfortable situation. 
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January 17, 2012, 02:56:11 AM
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BTC withdrawals work.  Just did a small one. 

I have one for over 200 that seems to be permanently in process....
How long did you have to wait?  I tried 200BTC, now it's 6 hours and waiting.
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January 17, 2012, 03:44:06 AM
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BTC withdrawals work.  Just did a small one. 

I have one for over 200 that seems to be permanently in process....
How long did you have to wait?  I tried 200BTC, now it's 6 hours and waiting.

About 5 days

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