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April 23, 2014, 12:27:30 AM
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Take your religion.

Think about it's origin.

Was it long ago?

What were the very first believers like?

What did they believe? How intelligent were they? Did they ever make mistakes?

Did the great ancestors of your religion ever get something wrong because they thought they knew the answer...but didn't?
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April 23, 2014, 12:30:59 AM
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Sure, since truth is a perception and there is no great universal truth hence every single person could claim their religion as moral.

Did the great ancestors of your religion ever get something wrong because they thought they knew the answer...but didn't?

In response to this, if you're a believer of one of the longer running faith's (ie Christianity) I'm doubtful there would be evidence to indicate anything like that - but we can safely assume that all humans throughout all time points have made mistakes based on a flawed understanding/perception.
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April 23, 2014, 12:38:32 AM
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I think a lot of people who commit 'evil' acts think they're acting morally. Like light said it's perception. Most religions have 'good' morals but then contradict them massively. Though shall not kill... Unless you're a homosexual or adulterer etc.

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April 23, 2014, 12:42:40 AM
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Religion isn't about morality or good, it's about control over the populace.

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April 23, 2014, 01:07:49 AM
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You will know the morality based on how you feel about it.
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April 23, 2014, 01:19:20 AM
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The most powerful entity would decide what the moral is.
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April 23, 2014, 01:31:18 AM
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religion doesn't make peoples morality, we human being are flawed and bound to do mistakes, and thus it depends on our understand/perception/faith and acts... to many variable, while a religion does have moral recommendation, for those reasons I mentioned people will bypass these and do whatever they want
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April 23, 2014, 01:41:57 AM
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Most religions teach good morals, but there are always extremists in each religion who interpret their holy texts in a "different" way. There are also scammers who use religions as a front for their own means.

If you judge a religion based on its past history, no mainstream religion is "worthy" for followers.
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April 23, 2014, 10:04:24 AM
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For most people, religion is a panacea, especially for things they have no control over. Like natural catastrophes or accidents.

Religion is also man-made; hence, there are both good and bad things in it. As to moral, people define it according to the society and context in which they live. What does it mean to be truly moral? That is subjective.
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April 23, 2014, 01:03:48 PM
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religion is now only a business nowadays Cheesy morality is now depend on every individual its a matter of choice

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April 23, 2014, 01:10:07 PM
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I am religious but i follow no church or no specific religion. ALL religions have blood and greed on their hands and as 1 user pointed out it's about control.

Be a good person and treat others well in life and in doing so when your time comes only then will you know.

How can you be religious that way? I don't get it really.And  I don't think buddhism is violent at all. Not that I am buddhist, maybe they kill people ;x. But I agree that all we need is just good people.


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April 23, 2014, 01:11:49 PM
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Religions lol
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April 23, 2014, 01:23:59 PM
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I am religious but i follow no church or no specific religion. ALL religions have blood and greed on their hands and as 1 user pointed out it's about control.

Be a good person and treat others well in life and in doing so when your time comes only then will you know.

How can you be religious that way? I don't get it really.And  I don't think buddhism is violent at all. Not that I am buddhist, maybe they kill people ;x. But I agree that all we need is just good people.
He can be religious ,it matters his heart and his actions not if he goes everyday at church or not .And lets not talk about violence.....millions of people died during the centuries  in the name of the religions

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April 23, 2014, 01:37:56 PM
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I wonder why this threads are even occuring here. I thought that BTC community is all about science, crypto etc. And where is science - there is no religion. Well, maybe not so dramatic but still, you got my point.
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April 23, 2014, 01:40:06 PM
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I wonder why this threads are even occuring here. I thought that BTC community is all about science, crypto etc. And where is science - there is no religion. Well, maybe not so dramatic but still, you got my point.

There's a lot of greed here too and that draws the hypocrites in.
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April 23, 2014, 01:44:38 PM
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Religions lol

Simple but effective  Grin.

I wonder why this threads are even occuring here. I thought that BTC community is all about science, crypto etc. And where is science - there is no religion. Well, maybe not so dramatic but still, you got my point.

Well there are a lot of smart people who are also pretty stupid. I think this applies to the human race in general.
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April 23, 2014, 01:51:38 PM
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Religion isn't about morality or good, it's about control over the populace.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.

Be kind and peaceful, but do fight in our holy wars when we tell you to. And kill all the gays. And obey your masters. Also don't cheat on your wife but ignore it when your masters fuck 10,000 women including your young daughters. Etc.

It also served to keep the majority of the population from spending all their time wondering why we are here, thinking about the meaning of life, questioning everything etc. After all, the rulers didn't want them thinking they wanted them toiling in fields and blindly believing that something wonderful was waiting for them after they eventually died some horrific death.

It's much easier to get an army to perform suicidal tasks if you have them believing they are serving God (or more accurately, believing they will be rewarded in an afterlife.)
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April 23, 2014, 02:03:34 PM
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Religion isn't about morality or good, it's about control over the populace.

Not neccesarily about control but getting them to give them your money. Greatest scam in history.
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April 23, 2014, 02:11:45 PM
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 People claim religion is morality because they confuse prescription with description. people are moral because of their god/religion/holy book instead of realizing they are moral, and it just so happens that their god/religion/holy book partially agrees with them.

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April 23, 2014, 02:29:41 PM
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I think of many religions as having a moral basis. Too bad there is no God or I'd join in.

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