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Question: What is your religious affiliation? (If any)
Christianity - 27 (23.7%)
Islam - 7 (6.1%)
Agnosticism - 18 (15.8%)
Atheism - 44 (38.6%)
Buddhism - 3 (2.6%)
Other - 13 (11.4%)
Hinduism - 2 (1.8%)
Total Voters: 114

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April 25, 2014, 04:51:06 AM
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I am god.  You are too.

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April 25, 2014, 04:53:30 AM
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I am god.  You are too.
Dank stop trolling.

I'm surprised that the majority voted for being an atheist.

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April 25, 2014, 04:53:44 AM
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I am god.  You are too.

I am a more powerful God than you and am calling down Hellfire and Brimstone, hookers infected with evil diseases, plagues of locusts, hordes of rats, herds of rabid deer and troops of enraged turtles on your house.

Suck it up!

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April 25, 2014, 04:59:22 AM
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I am god.  You are too.
Dank stop trolling.

I'm surprised that the majority voted for being an atheist.

I am not the one trolling.  We are conscious spiritual beings having a human experience.

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April 25, 2014, 05:01:25 AM
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I am god.  You are too.
Dank stop trolling.

I'm surprised that the majority voted for being an atheist.

I am not the one trolling.  We are conscious spiritual beings having a human experience.

Would you prove for me the existence of what is commonly called a "spirit"?

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April 25, 2014, 05:09:47 AM
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I am not the one trolling.  We are conscious spiritual beings having a human experience.

Would you prove for me the existence of what is commonly called a "spirit"?

My $,02.

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How would you define existence? What does really exist? What is reality? How would you define a conscious spiritual being? What happens when I die, do I stop existing, even if I'm a spiritual being?
These are just a few questions that I ask from time to time.

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April 25, 2014, 05:37:57 AM
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I am not the one trolling.  We are conscious spiritual beings having a human experience.

Would you prove for me the existence of what is commonly called a "spirit"?

My $,02.

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How would you define existence? What does really exist? What is reality? How would you define a conscious spiritual being? What happens when I die, do I stop existing, even if I'm a spiritual being?
These are just a few questions that I ask from time to time.

Okey, dokey!

Here's one that will keep you busy for a while.

Does it make any difference whether or not there is an external reality?

Have a nice day!

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April 25, 2014, 06:44:12 AM
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I am god.  You are too.
Dank stop trolling.

I'm surprised that the majority voted for being an atheist.

a lot of people say that though.. that's a proverb.

i don't think he's a troll anyways, just probably burned out on LSD or whatever he's taking  Cheesy .. though i'm not disagreeing with his statement.
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April 25, 2014, 06:49:27 AM
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you forgot the jewish, not that I am.

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April 25, 2014, 07:13:00 AM
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How would you define existence? What does really exist? What is reality? How would you define a conscious spiritual being? What happens when I die, do I stop existing, even if I'm a spiritual being?
These are just a few questions that I ask from time to time.

We can look up this word anywhere:

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ex·ist
verb (used without object)
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to have actual being; be:

Another way of putting it: to exist is to have physical, material matter; to be subject to the senses.  What really exists are those things with matter.  Reality is all that which we experience with the five senses; reality is the space wherein things exist.  Anything which does not have physical matter exist as ideas, of which do exist, inside your brain, which is itself matter.  Ideas are physical matter, but what those ideas represent are not; in the same way, a DVD has matter, but the action-packed car scene the DVD streams does not, the images are representations of those things, i.e. the cars do not really exist except when they were filmed in reality.  The film beyond that is similar to your brain; the film exists, but what the film represents does not.

Spirits are defined as incorporeal i.e. without physical material, which as defined prior, must exist as ideas.  A spiritual being, then, is defined as an incorporeal corporeal object; in other words a paradox, it doesn't play ball with the rules we've defined for reality: it must either be corporeal i.e. being i.e. pertaining to reality, or incorporeal i.e. spiritual i.e. existing as an idea.  So when you die, you appear as a corpse to everyone else, but since your brain can no longer function to understand any idea, you become as nothing.  Therefore, the afterlife is arational: it is beyond our comprehension because we cannot experience it.  In other words, if it does exist, we'll never know, as it necessitates being unable to comprehend it to experience it, and since we cannot experience anything when we're dead, it's the same as it not existing.

With this in mind, remember that you have one life, no eternal afterparty and no mulligans, so get busy living Grin

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April 25, 2014, 08:28:42 AM
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This forum is full of mad atheists.
Sorry Cheesy
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April 25, 2014, 09:28:54 AM
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This forum is full of mad atheists.
Sorry Cheesy

What's mad about them?
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April 25, 2014, 09:32:18 AM
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This forum is full of mad atheists.
Sorry Cheesy

I'm sure these mad atheists could say the same about all the believers. I know which one to me sounds the most mad and it's not the atheists.
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April 25, 2014, 11:02:25 AM
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Any tengrists here?
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April 25, 2014, 11:35:31 AM
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Christianity:

The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat an infected fruit from a magical tree.

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April 25, 2014, 11:56:39 AM
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you forgot the jewish, not that I am.

Included in the others category. But Jews number far lesser when compared to Muslims or Christians.

This is the proportion of major religious groups in the world.

Christianity   - 31.5%
Muslim - 23.2%
Unaffiliated - 16.3%
Hindu   - 15.0%
Buddhist - 7.1%
Folk - 5.9%
Other   - 0.8%
Jewish - 0.2%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations
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April 25, 2014, 12:06:46 PM
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you forgot the jewish, not that I am.

Included in the others category. But Jews number far lesser when compared to Muslims or Christians.

This is the proportion of major religious groups in the world.

Christianity   - 31.5%
Muslim - 23.2%
Unaffiliated - 16.3%
Hindu   - 15.0%
Buddhist - 7.1%
Folk - 5.9%
Other   - 0.8%
Jewish - 0.2%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations
Now I may ask why Hinduism is not in the polling list when with 7.1% Buddhism is there Tongue

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Now I may ask why Hinduism is not in the polling list when with 7.1% Buddhism is there Tongue

Many reasons I think. Buddhism is a world religion, but Hinduism is more like an Indian religion. Also, Buddhism is a modern religion, based on a single prophet or preacher (just like Jesus in Christianity, prophet Mohammed in Islam), while Hinduism is a complex set of ancient and diverse beliefs. Buddhism is gaining a lot of followers world wide, through outreach activities. Hindus never believe in any outreach / missionary activity, and are normally against other people joining their religion (with some notable exceptions). Also, most importantly I heard that a Hindu can be an atheist as well.
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April 25, 2014, 01:52:36 PM
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Another way of putting it: to exist is to have physical, material matter; to be subject to the senses.  What really exists are those things with matter.  Reality is all that which we experience with the five senses; reality is the space wherein things exist.  Anything which does not have physical matter exist as ideas, of which do exist, inside your brain, which is itself matter.  Ideas are physical matter, but what those ideas represent are not; in the same way, a DVD has matter, but the action-packed car scene the DVD streams does not, the images are representations of those things, i.e. the cars do not really exist except when they were filmed in reality.  The film beyond that is similar to your brain; the film exists, but what the film represents does not.

Spirits are defined as incorporeal i.e. without physical material, which as defined prior, must exist as ideas.  A spiritual being, then, is defined as an incorporeal corporeal object; in other words a paradox, it doesn't play ball with the rules we've defined for reality: it must either be corporeal i.e. being i.e. pertaining to reality, or incorporeal i.e. spiritual i.e. existing as an idea.  So when you die, you appear as a corpse to everyone else, but since your brain can no longer function to understand any idea, you become as nothing.  Therefore, the afterlife is arational: it is beyond our comprehension because we cannot experience it.  In other words, if it does exist, we'll never know, as it necessitates being unable to comprehend it to experience it, and since we cannot experience anything when we're dead, it's the same as it not existing.

With this in mind, remember that you have one life, no eternal afterparty and no mulligans, so get busy living Grin
But how do you know that for example your phone is real? Your parents are real? Are they real?
The world is real, right? How do you know? The question is quite difficult.
Do we or will we ever know true reality? Are we stuck in a world in which the best we can do is be approximately true?

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