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April 24, 2014, 04:55:47 AM
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I'm relatively new here but I've been reading a lot of the posts recently. A lot of people seem to be quite optimistic that the price is going to raise substantially by this summer. Could someone explain to me why that is? What is going to happen this summer that makes you think that?

Of course I want the price to raise, but what all needs to happen for it to take off (aside from China getting back in the game)?
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April 24, 2014, 05:10:33 AM
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I'm relatively new here but I've been reading a lot of the posts recently. A lot of people seem to be quite optimistic that the price is going to raise substantially by this summer. Could someone explain to me why that is? What is going to happen this summer that makes you think that?

Of course I want the price to raise, but what all needs to happen for it to take off (aside from China getting back in the game)?

There will be a big deat cat bounce.

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April 24, 2014, 05:18:30 AM
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I counldn't tell you myself as I'm sitting here wondering the same thing.  I'd think people would be getting in now with their tax refunds but maybe I missing something.  I guess people will be doing of "networking" shall we say during the summer and word of mouth will play a part?  I'm interested in what others think.

Please post a link to some of the threads you've come across when you can, thanks.
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April 24, 2014, 07:39:41 AM
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It's a free market. If a lot of people want the price to rise substantially by the summer, you can be 100% sure it won't happen.

I believe Bitcoin will facilitate the greatest wealth transfer of all time: the transfer of wealth from all the dummies who purchased in 2014 to all the smarties that purchased in 2013!  Cheesy
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April 24, 2014, 07:44:14 AM
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It's a free market. If a lot of people want the price to rise substantially by the summer, you can be 100% sure it won't happen.

I believe Bitcoin will facilitate the greatest wealth transfer of all time: the transfer of wealth from all the dummies who purchased in 2014 to all the smarties that purchased in 2013!  Cheesy

So bear or bull now?
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April 24, 2014, 07:49:23 AM
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It's a free market. If a lot of people want the price to rise substantially by the summer, you can be 100% sure it won't happen.

I believe Bitcoin will facilitate the greatest wealth transfer of all time: the transfer of wealth from all the dummies who purchased in 2014 to all the smarties that purchased in 2013!  Cheesy

So bear or bull now?

For the next 8 months? BEAR
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April 25, 2014, 01:28:49 AM
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This is just a small sample of why bitcoin is bullish and not bearish this summer:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-phillip-nelson/the-smoke-has-cleared-aga_b_5179584.html
https://coinreport.net/top-5-bitcoin-breakthroughs-affecting-future
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-report-q1-2014
http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/24/xapo-now-offers-the-first-credit-card-linked-to-your-bitcoin-wallet
http://cointelegraph.com/post/fill_er_up_bitcoin_fuel_dispenser_unveiled_in_cincinnati#.U1m5u6LnLaR
http://cointelegraph.com/post/500_startups_backs_bitcoin_companies_with_100k#.U1m5uKLnLaR
http://cryptocrimson.com/2014/04/largest-vc-firm-u-s-backing-bitcoin
http://rt.com/business/154324-bitcoin-russia-conference-advatages
http://www.pfhub.com/sir-richard-branson-bitcoin-is-the-pioneer-of-a-global-currency-576


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April 25, 2014, 01:36:52 AM
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I'm relatively new here but I've been reading a lot of the posts recently. A lot of people seem to be quite optimistic that the price is going to raise substantially by this summer. Could someone explain to me why that is? What is going to happen this summer that makes you think that?

Of course I want the price to raise, but what all needs to happen for it to take off (aside from China getting back in the game)?

Capital Flight into US dollar via Bitcoin due to some crisis stricken economy.


Been reading the same old shite from Silver Stacker for the past 2 years now. But after a while, one becomes immune to it.

Silver is not at $500 because:

Stupid sheeple
Government conspiracies
Paper Silver
Market manipulation from the big banks

etc etc etc.

Whatever, even if it were all true, the fact is that Silver is not $500, that it has been in a bear market for 3 years now and I have seen the bottom called by so many 'experts' so many times that I am bored to death by it all. As I speak, Silver right now is as low as the 2008 high. Bitcoin charts seem to be taking a very similar course to what silver took, albeit in a  much shorter time span.....where are we in Bitcoin in Silver terms? July 2012, Silver at $26 I would say. (Silver is presently $19).

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April 25, 2014, 02:08:42 AM
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I'm relatively new here but I've been reading a lot of the posts recently. A lot of people seem to be quite optimistic that the price is going to raise substantially by this summer. Could someone explain to me why that is? What is going to happen this summer that makes you think that?

Of course I want the price to raise, but what all needs to happen for it to take off (aside from China getting back in the game)?


Many of us look at trendlines.  Bitcoin seems to have patterns that are repeated.  If we follow the same patterns that we have in the past we are looking at hitting close to $5000 give or take this Summer. 

Look at the chart on this thread for more information:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366214.msg6027236#msg6027236

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April 25, 2014, 04:25:03 AM
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There's nothing big happening in the summer as far as I can tell. Just a bunch of people making grandiose predictions based on where they want the market to go. I think it's going to take a while to recover from all the bad things that have hit the btc world recently.

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April 25, 2014, 05:00:01 AM
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There's nothing big happening in the summer as far as I can tell. Just a bunch of people making grandiose predictions based on where they want the market to go. I think it's going to take a while to recover from all the bad things that have hit the btc world recently.

There have been "bad things" since the beginning. We have had other exchanges shut down.  We had the silk road issues.  If anything we are much stronger than we have ever been, even with all of the China FUD and the Gox closure so I disagree.  But it waits to be seen how long it will take for the sentiment to change. 

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April 25, 2014, 05:13:19 AM
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There's nothing big happening in the summer as far as I can tell. Just a bunch of people making grandiose predictions based on where they want the market to go. I think it's going to take a while to recover from all the bad things that have hit the btc world recently.

There have been "bad things" since the beginning. We have had other exchanges shut down.  We had the silk road issues.  If anything we are much stronger than we have ever been, even with all of the China FUD and the Gox closure so I disagree.  But it waits to be seen how long it will take for the sentiment to change. 

The thing is we haven't felt the full effect of the silkroad closure, gox bankruptcy, nor China FUD. There's still lots of coins to be dumped and accounts to be banned.

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April 25, 2014, 07:59:51 AM
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There's nothing big happening in the summer as far as I can tell. Just a bunch of people making grandiose predictions based on where they want the market to go. I think it's going to take a while to recover from all the bad things that have hit the btc world recently.

There have been "bad things" since the beginning. We have had other exchanges shut down.  We had the silk road issues.  If anything we are much stronger than we have ever been, even with all of the China FUD and the Gox closure so I disagree.  But it waits to be seen how long it will take for the sentiment to change. 

The thing is we haven't felt the full effect of the silkroad closure, gox bankruptcy, nor China FUD. There's still lots of coins to be dumped and accounts to be banned.

But don't you think their is a fair amount of good news to help counteract that bad and more coming out frequently? @kooke
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April 25, 2014, 09:20:17 AM
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I predict that BTC will range bound between $300 and $500 for the next 12 months, until investigation for mtgox claims begin.
Then it depends on what the final decision is. If mtgox is liquidated and bitcoins sold, I don't see a future for bit coin. Its value will crash to $10 stay there for ever.
If gox is saved by savegox.com or other buyers, and creditors refunded for 20% to 100% of their lost funds, bitcoin will end 2015 at $20K and will continue its run to $100K in 2016-2017
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April 25, 2014, 10:15:49 AM
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How about China and what is happened related to the Bitcoin  ?
This have you used in your calculations ?

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April 25, 2014, 01:00:44 PM
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A lot of people seem to be quite optimistic that the price is going to raise substantially by this summer. Could someone explain to me why that is?

It's quite simple really.

It's because Bitcoin is vastly undervalued at the moment due to noob (less than a year) speculators panic selling due to unreasonable expectations based on last autumn's bubble, and exacerbated by over-emphasis on China and Mt Gox.

More experienced Bitcoiners look at the logarithmic charts and realize that current prices are unrealistically low.

Bitcoin infrastructure continues to grow, with new BTC ATMs being produced and installed daily on a global basis, and [bic]-related start-ups being established regularly.

Some myopic people see it only as a speculative opportunity, rather than as disruptive technology. Many are merely quasi-religious nutbar Technical Analysis zealots who don't really understand the protocol.

Older people will remember when the Internet was referred to as the "information superhighway" long before HTML and the WWW. It was seen by many as a fad. supported primarily by pr0n, just as some people thought that the only reason Bitcoin survived was the Silk Road. Then, a decade later, the dotcom bubble inflated and burst and guess what? The internet kept growing, with P2P, Google, social media, the TOR network and everything else it has to offer. No one thinks of the Internet as a gimmick any more.

Be grateful you're an early adopter. Even if you don't make a shitload of money, at least be grateful for getting in early and cheaply.

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April 25, 2014, 03:26:55 PM
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A lot of people seem to be quite optimistic that the price is going to raise substantially by this summer. Could someone explain to me why that is?

It's quite simple really.

It's because Bitcoin is vastly undervalued at the moment due to noob (less than a year) speculators panic selling due to unreasonable expectations based on last autumn's bubble, and exacerbated by over-emphasis on China and Mt Gox.

More experienced Bitcoiners look at the logarithmic charts and realize that current prices are unrealistically low.

Bitcoin infrastructure continues to grow, with new BTC ATMs being produced and installed daily on a global basis, and [bic]-related start-ups being established regularly.

Some myopic people see it only as a speculative opportunity, rather than as disruptive technology. Many are merely quasi-religious nutbar Technical Analysis zealots who don't really understand the protocol.

Older people will remember when the Internet was referred to as the "information superhighway" long before HTML and the WWW. It was seen by many as a fad. supported primarily by pr0n, just as some people thought that the only reason Bitcoin survived was the Silk Road. Then, a decade later, the dotcom bubble inflated and burst and guess what? The internet kept growing, with P2P, Google, social media, the TOR network and everything else it has to offer. No one thinks of the Internet as a gimmick any more.

Be grateful you're an early adopter. Even if you don't make a shitload of money, at least be grateful for getting in early and cheaply.



And don't even get me started on the Elliot Wave people.  (Hint: Bitcoin has NOT followed the Elliot Wave pattern.  Not even once.  Even in hindsight.)

It's because we've seen all this before.  We saw Bitfloor, a major exchange at the time (#2 only to Gox), go down.  What's that?  You've never heard of Bitfloor?  Then I guess you don't know what we know. 

We were here for the Silk Road shutdown.  Many believed that Silk Road was the ONLY reason for bitcoin's price and its shutdown would tank the price.  It didn't.  In fact, it went up a little.

And despite all the negative news of the past, Bitcoin has still gone up at least 10× every year.  Without fail.  And until it doesn't, I'm going to continue to assume that it will.  Bitcoin started the year at $750.  And many of us believe that it will get to $7500 this year, because that's what bitcoin does.

A rocketship is coming.  And when that happens, you do NOT want to be in all FIAT.  These boards are littered with old posts of people that got left behind.  Some are still waiting (and unfortunately posting) for a return to $100.  Why?  Because they got left behind in April 2013.  And many others are wanting $200 or $250.  Why?  Because they got left behind (in all fiat) on the run up to $1200 in November.

Wall Street is coming.  Anyone that predicts that bitcoin will remain constant for 12 months is foolish.  Bitcoin has NEVER done that.  When these ETFs start opening up for IRA, 401k and mutual fund managers to start investing, I can tell you exactly what's going to happen.

One large mutual fund manager will put 10% bitcoins into his fund.  And the sheer fact that he's buying so many is going raise the price significantly.  Other fund managers will start looking around to see what he did and THEY will add 10% bitcoins to their fund.  The price will go up even more.  Then many others will notice that the bitcoin fund is doing better than every other investment by 10 times (sort of like BIT last year). 

This will be the straight vertical of the adoption curve.  Nobody knows where it ends.  You can play around with your measly gains of $20 back and forth here and there.  But it doesn't matter if you are left behind when the rocket takes off.

And the rocket IS coming.  Once the price starts going up "too fast", everyone will sell everything they have to panic buy in at any price.  We know this from experience because we've seen it all before.

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April 25, 2014, 03:50:19 PM
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Without a strong exchange based in the US, no wall street firms will invest in btc.
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April 25, 2014, 04:02:38 PM
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Without a strong exchange based in the US, no wall street firms will invest in btc.

It's coming.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/secondmarket-ceo-wall-street-put-203000747.html

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2014/02/25/secondmarket-bitcoin-exchange/

http://www.dailydot.com/news/secondmarket-bitcoin-trading-mt-gox-wall-street/

http://upstart.bizjournals.com/money/loot/2014/02/26/secondmarket-bitcoin-mt-gox.html?page=all

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April 25, 2014, 04:04:18 PM
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It's no "investment". It's pure speculation.
We're still in a bear market and nobody knows, when it will end.
There's enough air to the downside in my opinion.
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