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We are completely integrated back into CoinMarketCap and everything is running on all cylinders.  Thank you everyone on the BAY Team and at LA Token!Wow - I can't wait for the Market Place to start generating users. Once people all over the world realize what is here for FREE, the future will be a brighter one for all. Cheers! Sorry BitBayDoc, I'm not entirely clear what you mean by your remark re Coinmarketcap. Todays figures show that BAY has a cap of $227,215,574. This would give BAY a ranking of 39 on CMC. Actual rank = 208. Why the discrepancy, and what did you mean by 'completely integrated"? Sorry if you think I'm being awkward or nit-picky but, honestly, I would just like to know.  Currently CoinMarketcap is sort of censoring projects by requiring them to meet certain liquidity levels. Whats odd is some projects they don't enforce it on and others they do. In fact they used to let us hit the top 50 but then after we changed exchanges for the peg they started treating us differently. When he said "completely integrated" I think he was referring to being grateful that they restored our charts. Coinmarketcap has a bad habit of deleting our charts when trading on Latoken goes down... I get the feeling we are getting picked on by them but I am unable to prove it. Regardless, if we get with a couple more exchanges and get a liquidity provider or some angels then we can start attempting to eat away at Tethers market share. As we have proven that we can hold any stable price the community wants. |
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May 29, 2020, 09:47:23 AM |
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Hi guys What happens when I send Bitbay from desktop wallet to Latoken account. 1. On which type of address will I receive it? Reserve or Liquid? How to make sure receiving on Liquid address? 2. If received on Reserve address, can I send it to Liquid address on Latoken exchange itself? Latoken might have different deposit addresses even though liquid/reserve coins are simply determined by peg index and could in theory be sent to the same one, just deposit where they ask you to when depositing one or the other. Who asks in which address to deposit? I`m sending coins from my desktop wallet to my Latoken address. (BTW, liquid and reserve have same addresses in Latoken). How can I mention/instruct to send my coins from wallet to Latoken address, so that to make sure it`s received there on liquid address? When you send liquid coins to the address Latoken will register them as such. As you say its the same deposit address, should be fine. Thanks. I sent coins from desktop wallet "from Reserve to Liquid". So it will be received on liquid address, right? Also, how many block confirmation does it need? I`m waiting for almost 30 hours already, still not received.. 1127 confirmations already.. You cannot send reserve to liquid, it is controlled by the peg system. If you could do that it would defeat the whole purpose of this new code. Yeah exactly, if you sent reserve to Latokens receive address it will be locked for a month and when confirmed it will still be seen as reserve if the supply remains the same. You should read up on the peg to see how it works. The supply is dynamic and controlled by the community. This is what protects the price. |
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May 29, 2020, 01:37:16 PM |
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Hi guys What happens when I send Bitbay from desktop wallet to Latoken account. 1. On which type of address will I receive it? Reserve or Liquid? How to make sure receiving on Liquid address? 2. If received on Reserve address, can I send it to Liquid address on Latoken exchange itself? Latoken might have different deposit addresses even though liquid/reserve coins are simply determined by peg index and could in theory be sent to the same one, just deposit where they ask you to when depositing one or the other. Who asks in which address to deposit? I`m sending coins from my desktop wallet to my Latoken address. (BTW, liquid and reserve have same addresses in Latoken). How can I mention/instruct to send my coins from wallet to Latoken address, so that to make sure it`s received there on liquid address? When you send liquid coins to the address Latoken will register them as such. As you say its the same deposit address, should be fine. Thanks. I sent coins from desktop wallet "from Reserve to Liquid". So it will be received on liquid address, right? Also, how many block confirmation does it need? I`m waiting for almost 30 hours already, still not received.. 1127 confirmations already.. You cannot send reserve to liquid, it is controlled by the peg system. If you could do that it would defeat the whole purpose of this new code. Yeah exactly, if you sent reserve to Latokens receive address it will be locked for a month and when confirmed it will still be seen as reserve if the supply remains the same. You should read up on the peg to see how it works. The supply is dynamic and controlled by the community. This is what protects the price. If it`s impossible to turn reserve to liquid, why there is such option in wallet? I already waited 1 month for this exchange: Reserve to Liquid.. (Whole April) 1. What can I do now? Why should I loose 1 more month now and even after that, it will stay in Reserve? 2. Who decided to allocate coins reserve/liquid - on the start of dynamic peg? |
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May 29, 2020, 08:49:13 PM
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Hi guys What happens when I send Bitbay from desktop wallet to Latoken account. 1. On which type of address will I receive it? Reserve or Liquid? How to make sure receiving on Liquid address? 2. If received on Reserve address, can I send it to Liquid address on Latoken exchange itself? Latoken might have different deposit addresses even though liquid/reserve coins are simply determined by peg index and could in theory be sent to the same one, just deposit where they ask you to when depositing one or the other. Who asks in which address to deposit? I`m sending coins from my desktop wallet to my Latoken address. (BTW, liquid and reserve have same addresses in Latoken). How can I mention/instruct to send my coins from wallet to Latoken address, so that to make sure it`s received there on liquid address? When you send liquid coins to the address Latoken will register them as such. As you say its the same deposit address, should be fine. Thanks. I sent coins from desktop wallet "from Reserve to Liquid". So it will be received on liquid address, right? Also, how many block confirmation does it need? I`m waiting for almost 30 hours already, still not received.. 1127 confirmations already.. You cannot send reserve to liquid, it is controlled by the peg system. If you could do that it would defeat the whole purpose of this new code. Yeah exactly, if you sent reserve to Latokens receive address it will be locked for a month and when confirmed it will still be seen as reserve if the supply remains the same. You should read up on the peg to see how it works. The supply is dynamic and controlled by the community. This is what protects the price. If it`s impossible to turn reserve to liquid, why there is such option in wallet? I already waited 1 month for this exchange: Reserve to Liquid.. (Whole April) 1. What can I do now? Why should I loose 1 more month now and even after that, it will stay in Reserve? 2. Who decided to allocate coins reserve/liquid - on the start of dynamic peg? That's not an option in the wallet. The option is to simply send reserve to another address which locks it for a month. You should really read up on the mechanics of the peg. https://www.docdroid.net/d5wcK4D/dynamic-peg-visual-technical-reference-20190528.pdfThat pdf explains how it works. If you already sent reserve then in one month you can trade it based on the liquidity shards, chances are it will be mostly reserve unless inflation happens and some becomes liquid. You can not change a coins liquidity shards by sending it, the recipient gets exactly what you sent. The allocation of liquid/reserve is determined by the supply and the liquidity shards. So at the start of the peg all inputs are considered new and have 1200 liquidity shards each containing 1% compound except for the last shard which contains the remainder. Then the supply starts at 0 index which means 100% liquid and 0% reserve for all users. Then as users vote to deflate shards in that array are converted to reserve, and they would convert back to liquid upon inflation. The reserve coins can be sent with one month time-delay and that has no effect on their liquidity shards so upon receipt their ratio of BAY/BAYR is still determined by the supply index. In other words, you send precisely what you send. In fact, each time you send every tiny little shard in the array that you are sending is accounted for and tracked. So the precise liquidity and speed of inflation/deflation of each transaction is known down to the last satoshi. There is no way to game this system. The supply index is what determines how many coins are in circulation and it's fair as it effects all users and all users have influence on the supply index when they stake/vote. |
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May 31, 2020, 10:15:00 AM |
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We are completely integrated back into CoinMarketCap and everything is running on all cylinders. Thank you everyone on the BAY Team and at LA Token!Wow - I can't wait for the Market Place to start generating users. Once people all over the world realize what is here for FREE, the future will be a brighter one for all. Cheers! Sorry BitBayDoc, I'm not entirely clear what you mean by your remark re Coinmarketcap. Todays figures show that BAY has a cap of $227,215,574. This would give BAY a ranking of 39 on CMC. Actual rank = 208. Why the discrepancy, and what did you mean by 'completely integrated"? Sorry if you think I'm being awkward or nit-picky but, honestly, I would just like to know. Currently CoinMarketcap is sort of censoring projects by requiring them to meet certain liquidity levels. Whats odd is some projects they don't enforce it on and others they do. In fact they used to let us hit the top 50 but then after we changed exchanges for the peg they started treating us differently. When he said "completely integrated" I think he was referring to being grateful that they restored our charts. Coinmarketcap has a bad habit of deleting our charts when trading on Latoken goes down... I get the feeling we are getting picked on by them but I am unable to prove it. Regardless, if we get with a couple more exchanges and get a liquidity provider or some angels then we can start attempting to eat away at Tethers market share. As we have proven that we can hold any stable price the community wants. Exactly - Thanks David. Yes, I was referring to our charts being fully restored. And yes, we should be #39 on CMC based on our market cap! |
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June 02, 2020, 06:40:11 PM |
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Hi guys What happens when I send Bitbay from desktop wallet to Latoken account. 1. On which type of address will I receive it? Reserve or Liquid? How to make sure receiving on Liquid address? 2. If received on Reserve address, can I send it to Liquid address on Latoken exchange itself? Latoken might have different deposit addresses even though liquid/reserve coins are simply determined by peg index and could in theory be sent to the same one, just deposit where they ask you to when depositing one or the other. Who asks in which address to deposit? I`m sending coins from my desktop wallet to my Latoken address. (BTW, liquid and reserve have same addresses in Latoken). How can I mention/instruct to send my coins from wallet to Latoken address, so that to make sure it`s received there on liquid address? When you send liquid coins to the address Latoken will register them as such. As you say its the same deposit address, should be fine. Thanks. I sent coins from desktop wallet "from Reserve to Liquid". So it will be received on liquid address, right? Also, how many block confirmation does it need? I`m waiting for almost 30 hours already, still not received.. 1127 confirmations already.. You cannot send reserve to liquid, it is controlled by the peg system. If you could do that it would defeat the whole purpose of this new code. Yeah exactly, if you sent reserve to Latokens receive address it will be locked for a month and when confirmed it will still be seen as reserve if the supply remains the same. You should read up on the peg to see how it works. The supply is dynamic and controlled by the community. This is what protects the price. If it`s impossible to turn reserve to liquid, why there is such option in wallet? I already waited 1 month for this exchange: Reserve to Liquid.. (Whole April) 1. What can I do now? Why should I loose 1 more month now and even after that, it will stay in Reserve? 2. Who decided to allocate coins reserve/liquid - on the start of dynamic peg? That's not an option in the wallet. The option is to simply send reserve to another address which locks it for a month. You should really read up on the mechanics of the peg. https://www.docdroid.net/d5wcK4D/dynamic-peg-visual-technical-reference-20190528.pdfThat pdf explains how it works. If you already sent reserve then in one month you can trade it based on the liquidity shards, chances are it will be mostly reserve unless inflation happens and some becomes liquid. You can not change a coins liquidity shards by sending it, the recipient gets exactly what you sent. The allocation of liquid/reserve is determined by the supply and the liquidity shards. So at the start of the peg all inputs are considered new and have 1200 liquidity shards each containing 1% compound except for the last shard which contains the remainder. Then the supply starts at 0 index which means 100% liquid and 0% reserve for all users. Then as users vote to deflate shards in that array are converted to reserve, and they would convert back to liquid upon inflation. The reserve coins can be sent with one month time-delay and that has no effect on their liquidity shards so upon receipt their ratio of BAY/BAYR is still determined by the supply index. In other words, you send precisely what you send. In fact, each time you send every tiny little shard in the array that you are sending is accounted for and tracked. So the precise liquidity and speed of inflation/deflation of each transaction is known down to the last satoshi. There is no way to game this system. The supply index is what determines how many coins are in circulation and it's fair as it effects all users and all users have influence on the supply index when they stake/vote. Thanks for such detailed explanation, appreciated. So, to sum up in simple way: I`ll receive my coins in Reserve account in Latoken, can`t do anything by myself, these coins will be slowly, automatically, part by part transfered to Liquid address in Latoken, "when time comes". Where am I wrong? |
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June 02, 2020, 09:03:44 PM |
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Thanks for such detailed explanation, appreciated.
So, to sum up in simple way: I`ll receive my coins in Reserve account in Latoken, can`t do anything by myself, these coins will be slowly, automatically, part by part transfered to Liquid address in Latoken, "when time comes".
Where am I wrong?
The coins will receive as reserve in Latoken in one month. You can then trade them on BAYR markets. If supply changes and increases, some coins may become BAY. If the supply decreases some BAY coins shift to BAYR The ratio of BAY/BAYR changes when the supply changes. Supply changes happen due to stakers voting when winning a stake. The more liquid a transaction is, the more likely it will stay as BAY longer. The less liquid, the more likely it stays as BAYR longer. This always depends on the liquidity shards in the array of the coins you sent. This can be seen very clearly in the QT block explorer. |
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June 03, 2020, 08:24:13 AM |
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Thanks for such detailed explanation, appreciated.
So, to sum up in simple way: I`ll receive my coins in Reserve account in Latoken, can`t do anything by myself, these coins will be slowly, automatically, part by part transfered to Liquid address in Latoken, "when time comes".
Where am I wrong?
The coins will receive as reserve in Latoken in one month. You can then trade them on BAYR markets. If supply changes and increases, some coins may become BAY. If the supply decreases some BAY coins shift to BAYR The ratio of BAY/BAYR changes when the supply changes. Supply changes happen due to stakers voting when winning a stake. The more liquid a transaction is, the more likely it will stay as BAY longer. The less liquid, the more likely it stays as BAYR longer. This always depends on the liquidity shards in the array of the coins you sent. This can be seen very clearly in the QT block explorer. Just 1 detail: will BAYR become BAY automatically, on Latoken, itself? Or should I instruct it somehow? Also, how and where can I detect what did stakers decided/voted? |
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June 03, 2020, 08:59:44 AM |
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Thanks for such detailed explanation, appreciated.
So, to sum up in simple way: I`ll receive my coins in Reserve account in Latoken, can`t do anything by myself, these coins will be slowly, automatically, part by part transfered to Liquid address in Latoken, "when time comes".
Where am I wrong?
The coins will receive as reserve in Latoken in one month. You can then trade them on BAYR markets. If supply changes and increases, some coins may become BAY. If the supply decreases some BAY coins shift to BAYR The ratio of BAY/BAYR changes when the supply changes. Supply changes happen due to stakers voting when winning a stake. The more liquid a transaction is, the more likely it will stay as BAY longer. The less liquid, the more likely it stays as BAYR longer. This always depends on the liquidity shards in the array of the coins you sent. This can be seen very clearly in the QT block explorer. Just 1 detail: will BAYR become BAY automatically, on Latoken, itself? Or should I instruct it somehow? Also, how and where can I detect what did stakers decided/voted? Yes that's why we can't just list on any exchange. They have to track it to guarantee withdraws. We designed a demo exchange just to show exchanges how to do it. So changes in ratio of BAY/BAYR are tracked for every user. Its precise. Like if you buy liquid right now on Latoken then that is the "premium liquid" and it stays liquid longer especially if you withdraw it from the exchange. However yes, your BAYR deposit if some of it switches to BAY it will happen automatically. As for tracking the QT wallet shows you in real time the votes. I really need to add that to the Halo wallet but currently the Halo/Markets wallet doesn't show the current votes, it just shows the supply. The QT wallet also has a way to visualize your account inputs to see exactly how many coins would switch at each peg index. Most stakers vote for the "algorithm" which tracks 20 cents with a 1% monthly increase in floor with the potential to set new floors on dramatic pumps. This algo may be subject to change but it's working really well so far! We are in fact 20 cents just like we promised. I feel like that is one of our greatest accomplishments considering we proved we can do it without any liquidity and low volume. Imagine what we can do with liquidity! Users are free to diverge from the algo and sometimes they do for certain reasons. For now, it makes the most sense to hold the price. If the price goes above 22 cents roughly it triggers inflation and thus some BAYR coins from some of the users might convert to BAY depending on their liquidity array. |
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@David Zimbeck @BitBayDoc Thanks for the responses to my query re CMC; very much appreciated. I notice, however, that BAY receives the same treatment at the hands of CoinGecko. Where it should be listed at 38-39 or so, it is reported as occupying position 4271!!  Something smells decidedly fishy.... |
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June 04, 2020, 12:12:43 AM |
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@David Zimbeck @BitBayDoc Thanks for the responses to my query re CMC; very much appreciated. I notice, however, that BAY receives the same treatment at the hands of CoinGecko. Where it should be listed at 38-39 or so, it is reported as occupying position 4271!! Something smells decidedly fishy.... Yeah I feel like we have dealt with many years of censorship. Such an important innovation and our charts PROVE that we are able to curb volatility. Yet almost no articles about it. Is the news really "pay to play" nowadays? I have some doubts and feel like maybe we are being interfered with. With that said CoinGecko felt we didn't have enough buy support. Liquidity providers might change all of that and open all of these doors. That's the only reason I've taken an interest in it. We have the product, now all we need is users. Note that anyone who provides liquidity or large scale investment is an independent agent which is perfect for a decentralized project. They can if they want just support it on exchanges or even off the exchange and they should be able to make great money doing it as we have no competitors in the land of decentralized anti-volatility |
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Does this mean that the peg-compatible webwallet can be integrated into Blocknet DEX? And is there an ETA for a peg-compatible Android wallet? |
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@David Zimbeck @BitBayDoc Thanks for the responses to my query re CMC; very much appreciated. I notice, however, that BAY receives the same treatment at the hands of CoinGecko. Where it should be listed at 38-39 or so, it is reported as occupying position 4271!! Something smells decidedly fishy.... They only count BAYL and ignore BAYR. I think this method of evaluation is correct. You can't make market cap go up by restricting liquid shares, but you can control share price volatility that way. Low volatility is our claim to fame. |
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I agree ^^. Multiplying the price of BAY-L by the total supply doesn't accurately reflect the market cap, not even close...
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