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July 28, 2014, 10:26:38 AM
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Conversation: How Vladimir Putin Rose, and Could Fall, in Russia
http://www.stratfor.com/video/conversation-how-vladimir-putin-rose-and-could-fall-russia#axzz38QRY16Ab

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David Judson: Hello, I'm David Judson, editor-in-chief of Stratfor. Today, joining me is George Friedman, founder and chairman of Stratfor. I want to talk about what's kind of obvious, which is Russia in the broadest sense. But what I want to specifically talk about today, George, this week you in your column raised the yet-open question: Can Putin survive? That question remains open, but I kind of wanted to back up to the history of analysis we've done looking at Russia and its changing power relationships with not only itself internally, but what the West…take us back to 1998, when we raised basically the question: Can Boris Yeltsin survive?

George Friedman: Well, I mean, 1998 came after a major financial crisis in Russia and the realization that Russia -- as it was constituted in 1991, '92 -- didn't work, and that privatization had led to the growth of massive oligarchies, and that Russia was really being humiliated in foreign policy and how could Yeltsin survive? And it became increasingly clear that with all the problems Russia was having, the kind of regime that Yeltsin had couldn't survive and that it wouldn't.

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Kadyrov introduced sanctions against Obama and the EU leadership

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"In response to the EU sanctions, Head of the Chechen republic has decided to create own sanctions list. In particular, Kadyrov said, that U.S. President Barack Obama as well as the EU leaders Jose Manuel Barroso and Herman Van Rompuy are now banned from entering Chechnya and their assets in Chechnya will be frozen."

Trolling must go on Cheesy

Hahaha this is great.  Cheesy I find it ironic how all of these political games started directly after the Olympic games in Russia.
Where can I see the complete list of all sanctions?
I've just seen article by theguardian Cheesy

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/26/barack-obama-banned-from-entering-chechnya

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July 31, 2014, 08:53:47 AM
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Russian Aggression Prevention Act Seems Designed to Provoke Russian Aggression
http://www.activistpost.com/2014/07/russian-aggression-prevention-act-could.html

And the Germans are starting to become fearful:
Putin-Vertrauter: „Es wird Krieg in Europa geben“
Putin's confidant: "There will be war in Europe"
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/29/putin-vertrauer-es-wird-krieg-in-europa-geben/
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 31, 2014, 09:18:42 AM
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And the Germans are starting to become fearful:
Putin-Vertrauter: „Es wird Krieg in Europa geben“
Putin's confidant: "There will be war in Europe"
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/29/putin-vertrauer-es-wird-krieg-in-europa-geben/
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HMMMM. And who do you think the frightened Germans will side with?
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July 31, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
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And the Germans are starting to become fearful:
Putin-Vertrauter: „Es wird Krieg in Europa geben“
Putin's confidant: "There will be war in Europe"
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/29/putin-vertrauer-es-wird-krieg-in-europa-geben/
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HMMMM. And who do you think the frightened Germans will side with?

As the history of the last 100 years shows, it doesn't really matter which side they are on, since in any case they will turn out to have been beaten in the end.
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July 31, 2014, 09:57:03 AM
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And the Germans are starting to become fearful:
Putin-Vertrauter: „Es wird Krieg in Europa geben“
Putin's confidant: "There will be war in Europe"
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/29/putin-vertrauer-es-wird-krieg-in-europa-geben/
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HMMMM. And who do you think the frightened Germans will side with?

As the history of the last 100 years shows, it doesn't really matter which side they are on, since in any case they will turn out to have been beaten in the end.

WW1 = Loss
WW2 = Loss
WW3 = ?

Maybe 3rd times the charm?
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July 31, 2014, 10:01:57 AM
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All the latest events started to sound like WW III  Angry
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July 31, 2014, 10:09:14 AM
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All the latest events started to sound like WW III  Angry

cryptofan, don't worry about it until fire rains from the sky, then worry for 15 intense seconds.  Grin

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July 31, 2014, 10:15:13 AM
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All the latest events started to sound like WW III  Angry

cryptofan, don't worry about it until fire rains from the sky, then worry for 15 intense seconds.  Grin


You are on to something there, alas. It seems that we, the common humans, cannot do much anything about it. If a couple of elderly men decide that millions of young men should die, then die they will.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
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July 31, 2014, 10:51:36 AM
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It seems that we, the common humans, cannot do much anything about it.
They can follow Snowden's way because they have migration option. Join one of non-aggressor nations and stay away of conflict.

P.S. BTW, Snowden submitted a request for political asylum yesterday.
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July 31, 2014, 11:53:57 AM
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WW1 = Loss
WW2 = Loss
WW3 = ?

Maybe 3rd times the charm?

The "problem" with the previous 2 was that Germany was fighting at the East and West fronts at the same time. Now with EU it can focus at a single side and Idk if Kim Jong-un can defend N.Korea from Germany...

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July 31, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
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'Let's sanction Russia!'
http://rt.com/op-edge/176984-sanctions-russia-ukraine-gaza-conflict/
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Israel shells a UN school in Gaza killing 15. It's the sixth time a UN school has been struck.

'Children, women and men killed & injured as they slept in a place where they should have been safe and protected. They were not. Intolerable', says Pierre Krahenbuhl, commissioner general of UNRWA.

Overall, almost 1,400 people have been killed in Gaza by Israeli forces with missiles and military equipment supplied by the US. After the latest UN school attack, it was announced that the US will send more ammunition to Israel. The conclusion is: “Let’s sanction Russia!”


“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 31, 2014, 02:50:40 PM
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*yawn*

Russia and their Belarus cronies have been restricting meat imports since 2013, based on trumped-up charges of African swine flu.
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Russia and their Belarus cronies have been restricting meat imports since 2013, based on trumped-up charges of African swine flu.
If one side uses trumped-up charges then another side will do the same, I'd say it's am obvios response. Just like EU and their cronies have been restricting milk production imports, due to trumped-up charge for contamination with cesium-137 and strontium-90. While in fact, the Belarusian milk has almost 4 times less strontium-supplied radioactivity in comparison with Polish or Lithuanian production.
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Russia and their Belarus cronies have been restricting meat imports since 2013, based on trumped-up charges of African swine flu.
If one side uses trumped-up charges then another side will do the same, I'd say it's am obvios response. Just like EU and their cronies have been restricting milk production imports, due to trumped-up charge for contamination with cesium-137 and strontium-90. While in fact, the Belarusian milk has almost 4 times less strontium-supplied radioactivity in comparison with Polish or Lithuanian production.

It doesn't make much sense to play fair when your "partners" break their own rules or change them along the way. And then they even have the audacity to come whining about the same tactics used against them as being "unfair".
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Russia and their Belarus cronies have been restricting meat imports since 2013, based on trumped-up charges of African swine flu.
If one side uses trumped-up charges then another side will do the same, I'd say it's am obvios response. Just like EU and their cronies have been restricting milk production imports, due to trumped-up charge for contamination with cesium-137 and strontium-90. While in fact, the Belarusian milk has almost 4 times less strontium-supplied radioactivity in comparison with Polish or Lithuanian production.

It doesn't make much sense to play fair when your "partners" break their own rules or change them along the way. And then they even have the the audacity to come whining about the same tactics used against them as being "unfair".
blahblahblah thinks otherwise. Maybe it's a result of strontium-90 consumption. Grin
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August 01, 2014, 08:31:07 AM
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Russia will conduct massive mobilisation of reserves for training in new types of armament, in the period of August-October:
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20140801/1018397154.html

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Global chess game being played by US and Russia.

It is very clear that US is using European countries to do its containment strategy against Russia. And Russia is subsidizing China energy price to attack US economically.


If the game keep going, it will eventually turn into a full blown warfare with US losing badly because of long logistic line.

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Global chess game being played by US and Russia.

It is very clear that US is using European countries to do its containment strategy against Russia. And Russia is subsidizing China energy price to attack US economically.


If the game keep going, it will eventually turn into a full blown warfare with US losing badly because of long logistic line.

Nobody wants a war with Russia, not even Russia itself.
Conquer Russia for what end? It doesn't have anything to offer to the conquerer and you would have to deal with the Russian people, most likely to turn into terrorists, afterwards.
The allies of Russia, in open warfare, are good for nothing. Persians can be a bone hard to chew, but the Chinese in warfare aren't that bright, they are more kin to intellectual development than fighting (even if kung-fu is good for movies and as exercise).

Economic wars will happen all the way, but that's even interesting to watch. A life without a struggle for something is really dull! But no need or wish for open warfare.

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August 01, 2014, 09:53:09 AM
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Conquer Russia for what end? It doesn't have anything to offer to the conquerer and you would have to deal with the Russian people, most likely to turn into terrorists, afterwards.
Terrorism was actually invented in Russia. If somebody is afraid of muslim terrorists then he need to read some info about "The People's Will" party, for example. Muslim terrorists are innocent children in comparison with these guys. They've successfully assassinated many actually great people like emperor Alexander II and prime minister Peter Stolypin. Obama's assasination is only a matter of time in case of real aggression.
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