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December 08, 2014, 03:56:49 PM
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Yeahhh here is why Russian have double of stock nuclear weapons... all the rest of the world are evil LoL

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December 08, 2014, 04:19:03 PM
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I think I get it now. I saw an interesting piece about how this subject is reported in Russia. Apparently Ukraine and the imminent invasion of Russia are all over the news. That's strange because the topic of Ukraine is barely in the news here.

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December 08, 2014, 04:21:24 PM
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Yeahhh here is why Russian have double of stock nuclear weapons... all the rest of the world are evil LoL



I wonder why US ,Russia ,UK , France and China still have a lot of nukes in their hands and what for ?
If World War 3 began and all country who have nukes get involved , i believe only 10-20 nuke is needed to make this world end  Embarrassed

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December 08, 2014, 04:26:28 PM
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Yeahhh here is why Russian have double of stock nuclear weapons... all the rest of the world are evil LoL



I wonder why US ,Russia ,UK , France and China still have a lot of nukes in their hands and what for ?
If World War 3 began and all country who have nukes get involved , i believe only 10-20 nuke is needed to make this world end  Embarrassed



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December 09, 2014, 12:01:22 PM
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Yeahhh here is why Russian have double of stock nuclear weapons... all the rest of the world are evil LoL



The important question here is: when is this data from. My guess is from 1992, when USSR fell apart and Russia took over all of the USSR's nuclear armament. During the destructive Yeltsin's 90's and the inertia of beginning of 2000's, most of Russia's nuclear potential, as well as its defensive capabilities were destroyed under the watchful eye of the American advisors.

I read earlier this year that only now, in the beginning of 2014, Russia again reached nuclear parity with USA. In other words right now USA and Russia have approximately the same number of nuclear warheads.

By the way, experts predict, based on US activities elsewhere in the world, that USA will make first strike against Russia, using winged rockets. USA is capable to launch 6500-7000 such rockets against Russia, including 5000 from naval platforms, according to USA's armament program.
Russia is currently building its own rocket defence shield.

http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/12/8/719289.html

Oh, and the latest legislation passed in the House of Representatives opens up the legalities for USA's aggression against Russia.

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December 09, 2014, 04:25:15 PM
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Invade Russsia!  Are you nuts?  Russians are insane.  That makes them fun to party with, but hell to govern.   Grin

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December 09, 2014, 06:08:45 PM
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Invade Russsia!  Are you nuts?  Russians are insane.  That makes them fun to party with, but hell to govern.   Grin
So true ... just go holidays where Russians are ... and they are whithout any culture ... react like animals ... and have really no respect.

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The important question is .. show me a real website .ru not driven by russian governement.... without propaganda ...

Beside this, show me just 1 website claimed openminded ... printing all over their website => russia is the first military country, russia tested his first balistic nuclear ready missile... ria.ru is pathetic ... we can not number how many times they claims nuclear war is near ... since 2 years.... and how russia has a big d**** with all the army LoL

Ho and last news are again => new missile launched from submarine ... funny .... next step ship little green men to the moon !
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December 09, 2014, 08:44:47 PM
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Invade Russsia!  Are you nuts?  Russians are insane.  That makes them fun to party with, but hell to govern.   Grin

Russians would appreciate it if the US stopped trying to govern them.  Tongue

And, by the way, not that nuts at all - just drawing on the historical experience, when not a single century has passed when someone didn't try to visit Russia with their swards or guns.

The current US/NATO doctrine of "rapid spearhead something something" aimed at Russia has many similarities to Hitler's Blitzkrieg plan Barbarossa.

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December 09, 2014, 09:38:16 PM
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Russians would appreciate it if the US stopped trying to govern them.  Tongue

And, by the way, not that nuts at all - just drawing on the historical experience, when not a single century has passed when someone didn't try to visit Russia with their swards or guns.

The current US/NATO doctrine of "rapid spearhead something something" aimed at Russia has many similarities to Hitler's Blitzkrieg plan Barbarossa.

No way.  The Russian and American people are very much alike and we get along great.  It's our political leaders and industrialists that make this shit up in order to gain power and money.  This is nothing but a military/industrial pump and dump.  Smiley

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December 09, 2014, 10:04:58 PM
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Russians would appreciate it if the US stopped trying to govern them.  Tongue

And, by the way, not that nuts at all - just drawing on the historical experience, when not a single century has passed when someone didn't try to visit Russia with their swards or guns.

The current US/NATO doctrine of "rapid spearhead something something" aimed at Russia has many similarities to Hitler's Blitzkrieg plan Barbarossa.

No way.  The Russian and American people are very much alike and we get along great.  It's our political leaders and industrialists that make this shit up in order to gain power and money.  This is nothing but a military/industrial pump and dump.  Smiley

That is very true. You are an American after my liking, who can see beyond MSM and fear-mongering. If there are more people like that on both sides of the borders, then wars would be impossible.



Read an interesting analysis on why MSM and NATO High Command lied about Russian "invasion" of Ukraine:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/Russia-Invades-Ukraine-Aga-by-George-Eliason-Deception_Donetsk_Intelligence_Justice-Denied-141115-691.html

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Will any of the above mentioned news outlets and the others not mentioned feel any shame or change their tune the next time this is a convenient story to break? The answer is no. The publishing companies have a 50+ year relationship with the emigre community the Ukrainian diaspora leads. They have worked hand in glove that long hyping up the cold war, Korean war, Vietnam war, and now the war on terror. These relationships were never severed as the constant stream of propaganda shows.

Why would NATO lie about this? NATO's relationship to the Eastern European emigre community and especially the Ukrainian emigres goes back just a little further than the relationship to the press. The Ukrainian emigre's ran cold war intelligence. They provided the misinformation and deceptions that the current defense industry grew on. The politically connected (Bandera-nationalist party) emigres exaggerated Soviet capabilities and lied about intent. The US military and NATO grew into what they have become based on this misinformation. They also provided cold war strategy options based on the same misinformation throughout the cold war to NATO, the war on terror, and now Ukraine. They helped develop the US army psy-op division.

What they really want is the war or cold war with Russia General Breedlove just took a step toward. If he gets this done, he will no doubt lead it from his nuke proof bunker hundreds of feet underground while America's sons and daughters get to fight it out.

Bear in mind this would only be true if the 4 Star General lied about the Russian invasion. This could only be the case if main stream media willfully pushed this agenda. If that is the case the next question is; should he and his staff be relieved of command?

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December 10, 2014, 01:33:49 AM
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Invade Russsia!  Are you nuts?  Russians are insane.  That makes them fun to party with, but hell to govern.   Grin

Invading Russia will be much more different than invading third world countries such as Iraq and Libya. Russia is the largest country in the world with very complicated terrain and  geology. Even if the nukes are not used, remember that they are having the best air defence systems, ballistic missiles and battle tanks.
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LOL,good I discovered this thread... Cheesy


Frankly, the bankrupt WEst is just resorting to bluffs- everything in the bankrupt WEst is imploding except for the manipulated stock market, they have become laughing-stock, and they will crumble even before the world stops laughing.

The WEstern comedians are desperate, as clearly shown how confused they were when the South Stream was stopped. THey can not intimidate anymore- and that is actually their only weapon left: the pretension to intimidate.They act strong & growl their threat of war but I can't see anybody is flinching. Everybody is laughing instead.

WEll, who would be intimidated? THey are bankrupt, they are obviously imploding, and what's more hilarious, they can not win wars.. and the most hilarious of all, nobody needs them anymore. Cheesy

Their gas supply now is insecure, wait for the next move: the rest of the world is starting to separate themselves from them financially & they will be left alone with their debts.

On December 15, some of the banks in Russia will have their own financial payment system. The rest will follow on May. THat will join similar system on development in China, & that will become the fulcrum of the new world. Away from the bankrupt WEstern elite-controlled one where only the WEstern comedians languishing in their gargantuan debts will remain... the Western financial oligarchs will all drown by themselves...LOL  (And Americans will finally be free of their elite fascist parasites)

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December 10, 2014, 11:24:54 AM
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On December 15, some of the banks in Russia will have their own financial payment system. The rest will follow on May. THat will join similar system on development in China, & that will become the fulcrum of the new world. Away from the bankrupt WEstern elite-controlled one where only the WEstern comedians languishing in their gargantuan debts will remain... the Western financial oligarchs will all drown by themselves...LOL  (And Americans will finally be free of their elite fascist parasites)

I was going to mention this bit of new a couple of days ago, but forgot.  Grin Russia put its own national payment system on track pretty fast after VISA and MasterCard tried to intimidate Russia. An interesting aside is that VISA and MasterCard will have to pay a premium fee for being connected to it, while Russian banks (and potentially those from BRICS) will pay a reduced transaction/connection fee.

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December 10, 2014, 12:09:07 PM
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Putin will start WW3

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December 10, 2014, 08:52:47 PM
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Putin will start WW3

Resolution 758 of the US Congress of the Ukrainian crisis, "is a declaration of war on Russia."

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December 10, 2014, 11:45:38 PM
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There is no need to invade Russia, it's easier to bankrupt it.

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December 11, 2014, 12:55:04 AM
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LOL,good I discovered this thread... Cheesy


Frankly, the bankrupt WEst is just resorting to bluffs- everything in the bankrupt WEst is imploding except for the manipulated stock market, they have become laughing-stock, and they will crumble even before the world stops laughing.

The WEstern comedians are desperate, as clearly shown how confused they were when the South Stream was stopped. THey can not intimidate anymore- and that is actually their only weapon left: the pretension to intimidate.They act strong & growl their threat of war but I can't see anybody is flinching. Everybody is laughing instead.

WEll, who would be intimidated? THey are bankrupt, they are obviously imploding, and what's more hilarious, they can not win wars.. and the most hilarious of all, nobody needs them anymore. Cheesy

Their gas supply now is insecure, wait for the next move: the rest of the world is starting to separate themselves from them financially & they will be left alone with their debts.

On December 15, some of the banks in Russia will have their own financial payment system. The rest will follow on May. THat will join similar system on development in China, & that will become the fulcrum of the new world. Away from the bankrupt WEstern elite-controlled one where only the WEstern comedians languishing in their gargantuan debts will remain... the Western financial oligarchs will all drown by themselves...LOL  (And Americans will finally be free of their elite fascist parasites)

 Cheesy



dude. i totally agree. though europeans might be the weaklings, americans are surely not. i also believe that the empire will crunch to its knees, but they will return more powerful and willing to act after pillaging their citizens. using them as almost slaves usa is able to create a truly powerful police/military state - they have no other choice really. the political establishment is too strong and deep into the core of power there, and there are no alternatives except few white folks with gun chests whose ancestors fought the civil war. america is also very well positioned geopolitically as they are almost completely isolated giving current elite plenty of protection. marching in washington wouldnt be possible as with berlin back in the day. stalin knew that he wasn't fighting hitler in ww2 - he was fighting those behind the british empire as it was the force that started the conflict in the first place (ww1).. as a result britain was defeated but not destroyed, and power just got transferred to usa.
 in this war the stakes are higher, though usa is just being used by them few families that are always in the shadow but making all the decisions. usa empire will collapse eventually as a result of ww3 but the problem will persist because whoever comes out of the conflict as the strongest conglomerate will be targeted by those same groups and eventually become just as corrupt in the process - its always been the case through thousands of years. rinse repeat. this unseen power which is not bound by any geographical restrictions goes from host to host infecting sovereign states. in order to truly put an end to this age long war the list of elite families need to published by few of those who actually study this phenomenon. they shouldnt be destroyed, but studied, as they hold sacred knowledge known to very few on earth. they hold relics and many artefacts that prove many theories that dont fit with current understanding of things. their wealth need to be confiscated used to sponsor technological projects that are still forbidden today for benefit of humanity. if we get pass this "fighting each other" thing we can advance so fast that we will be extremely energy efficient tapping to existing unlimited power generation resources. improving climate. overpopulation will not be a problem. this overpopulation myth we hear today is the same bs used by vatican before to brainwash subjects as "born sinner". we can start colonisation of other planets in mere centuries.
 all this is obviously utopia but something to aim for nevertheless. maybe its another stage in human development when we solve a problem of learning to not conflict with each other and once united becoming a more advanced species. maybe this is the test put upon us whether we are able to get rid of these non-constructive forces and become an interstellar civilization under one flag. if not - then another mass extinction and the game starts again from 0.
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December 14, 2014, 08:16:51 PM
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There is no need to invade Russia, it's easier to bankrupt it.
I wonder how you're planning to do that Cheesy
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There is no need to invade Russia, it's easier to bankrupt it.
I wonder how you're planning to do that Cheesy

Already happening... Wink


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