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April 28, 2014, 06:04:14 PM
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I could even go ahead and say magic cannot exist while science exists.

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April 28, 2014, 06:13:23 PM
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I could even go ahead and say magic cannot exist while science exists.

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Magic is Science :p and most of the tricks are based on science ..! and other one are just Illusion that is science too..! :p

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April 28, 2014, 06:16:30 PM
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I could even go ahead and say magic cannot exist while science exists.

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Science, bitch! Science! Magic is mainly illusions but science is real. You know?
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April 28, 2014, 06:39:22 PM
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Magic is just artful deception: slight of hand and illusion. I love great magic tricks that you have no idea how they were done though.

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April 28, 2014, 06:57:43 PM
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If the more "traditional" magic was real, (I mean with weird spells that can do lots of weird spells), it would be possible to explain with magic. If that's what you meant?
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April 28, 2014, 06:58:28 PM
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all scientific phenomena must be reprodutible in some sense, and must be isolated from others variables to do so. There are many phenomena are not reprodutible and/or can be isolated and studied separately, for exemple:

The history(you cannot rise Napoleon from the grave and do the Waterloo battle again)
Most so called miracles(no one can force God to do things)
Most of so called paranormal phenomena(ex: visions about the future you have at random moments)
The conscience(you cannot think about the conscience without being conscient)


your science cannot confirm or deny if magic really exists or not
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April 28, 2014, 07:11:16 PM
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Are you guys familiar with Clarke's Three Laws?

Clarke's Three Laws are three "laws" of prediction formulated by the British writer Arthur C. Clarke. They are:

1) When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
2) The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
3) Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

I think law no3 is self explanatory. And so true.


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April 28, 2014, 07:45:34 PM
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Non existence does not exist.  Anything is possible.

I will defy physics soon enough.

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April 28, 2014, 07:45:53 PM
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Allow me to add that I already have done such on a small scale.

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April 28, 2014, 07:51:41 PM
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Non existence does not exist.  Anything is possible.

I will defy physics soon enough.
The day you prove to me that you can fly (without using any tools), then I'll start believing in what you say! Cheesy
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April 28, 2014, 08:28:30 PM
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Well, you better believe in yourself enough to get to the music festival and you will see just that happen.

And when one sees one fly, one may also fly.

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April 28, 2014, 08:32:04 PM
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Are you talking about magic in the traditional sense of the word (ie shooting fireballs and crap) or are you talking about the more recent incarnation of "magic" ie cheap deception of mass audiences using tools, psychology, and outright lies?
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April 28, 2014, 08:36:33 PM
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"With the power of soul, anything is possible" - Jimi Hendrix

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April 28, 2014, 08:38:41 PM
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or in other words, magic is just science unexplained.
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April 28, 2014, 08:40:19 PM
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well sceintist created machines that can let you defy gravity, so thats kinda of like magic

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April 28, 2014, 08:41:16 PM
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you might be missing the point. something is only magic when its functional principles are not understood.
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April 28, 2014, 08:42:41 PM
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Well you could also argue that something is only "magic" if it is scientifically impossible. Assuming of course, that you are in the camp of people who don't believe "magic" things have occurred.
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April 28, 2014, 08:42:57 PM
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well sceintist created machines that can let you defy gravity, so thats kinda of like magic
Link to this please? Smiley
Would be quite cool to do just that though!
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April 28, 2014, 08:54:59 PM
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Why dont you use google, research it, there is also machines now that let us go camoflouge, This would have been magical back in the stone age all way to the iron age.

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April 28, 2014, 09:54:50 PM
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Yes, but you forfeited your soul to squall.

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