Oscar Pistorius case

[st4nl3y]

I think he will get away with involuntary manslaughter, get 5 years and come out after 2 for good behavior. It's not about his money here, although it does play a small part, it's about him being famous in SA and amount of social work he put in. He helped a lot of kids and thats why they still love him over there. My opinion is Oscar Pistorius is guilty of first-degree murder and should be sentenced to death by lethal injection. An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth! He took Reeva's life intentionally with cold blood in the state of anger. It's a shame SA abolished death penalty in 95.

[hilariousandco]

I think he will get away with involuntary manslaughter, get 5 years and come out after 2 for good behavior. It's not about his money here, although it does play a small part, it's about him being famous in SA and amount of social work he put in. He helped a lot of kids and thats why they still love him over there. My opinion is Oscar Pistorius is guilty of first-degree murder and should be sentenced to death by lethal injection. An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth! He took Reeva's life intentionally with cold blood in the state of anger. It's a shame SA abolished death penalty in 95.

I agree with the first part on sentencing but not the last. "An eye for an eye leaves everybody blind" comes to mind.

[maurya78]

Instead of speculating, why don;'t we just wait for the court's verdict?

[hilariousandco]

Instead of speculating, why don;'t we just wait for the court's verdict?

Because this is a discussion on the case. Why not speculate on the potential outcome or the political ramifications of it?

[tins]

Instead of speculating, why don;'t we just wait for the court's verdict?

We are a society that enjoys to discuss current events.

[Don007]

I'm not following this case on the news. Does anyone has an update about this? When will the Judge state his sentence?

Or did he already?

[hilariousandco]

I'm not following this case on the news. Does anyone has an update about this? When will the Judge state his sentence?

Or did he already?

Then read the news or check wikipedia. Is bitcointalk really your go-to place for current events?

[bryant.coleman]

I'm not following this case on the news. Does anyone has an update about this? When will the Judge state his sentence?

Or did he already?

No. The sentence hasn't yet been stated. The trial has been extended until 16th May, 2014. They might extend the date yet again, if either the prosecution or the defense asks for it.

[Don007]

I'm not following this case on the news. Does anyone has an update about this? When will the Judge state his sentence?

Or did he already?

No. The sentence hasn't yet been stated. The trial has been extended until 16th May, 2014. They might extend the date yet again, if either the prosecution or the defense asks for it.

Alright. Thanks for your update.

I'm not following this case on the news. Does anyone has an update about this? When will the Judge state his sentence?

Or did he already?

Then read the news or check wikipedia. Is bitcointalk really your go-to place for current events?

I do follow a couple discussions about news items / events on this forum, yes. For example also the problems in Ukraine. This forum with all its members with different backgrounds really bring in really interesting opinions.

[st4nl3y]

Seriously, this trial is a joke! A neighbour of Oscar Pistorius, Carice Viljoen (long time legal adviser and a good friend of Oscar!?) comes out of nowhere and testifies she was the first person on the scene when official police report stated that it was the security guard and then police arrived. She stated calmly:
"He was begging me to put her in the car. I told him to put her down. I told him we just need to see what's going on. I just saw blood everywhere."
..right, okay. either she is lying and covering for him or she must be dealing with dying people covered in blood on a daily basis. No shock, no emotions, she just calmly saying let's put her on the floor and see what's going on...really?
Furthermore, she lives 300m from Oscar's house and never mentioned she heard any arguments, shouting or shots fired, when others heard it from 500/600m and Oscar's balcony window was open all night as he stated. I can't wait when Gerrie 'the bulldog' Nel gets to her.

[hilariousandco]

Seriously, this trial is a joke! A neighbour of Oscar Pistorius, Carice Viljoen (long time legal adviser and a good friend of Oscar!?) comes out of nowhere and testifies she was the first person on the scene when official police report stated that it was the security guard and then police arrived. She stated calmly:
"He was begging me to put her in the car. I told him to put her down. I told him we just need to see what's going on. I just saw blood everywhere."
..right, okay. either she is lying and covering for him or she must be dealing with dying people covered in blood on a daily basis. No shock, no emotions, she just calmly saying let's put her on the floor and see what's going on...really?
Furthermore, she lives 300m from Oscar's house and never mentioned she heard any arguments, shouting or shots fired, when others heard it from 500/600m and Oscar's balcony window was open all night as he stated. I can't wait when Gerrie 'the bulldog' Nel gets to her.

How exactly is she covering for him there? I don't see anything that would suggest that.

[st4nl3y]

Seriously, this trial is a joke! A neighbour of Oscar Pistorius, Carice Viljoen (long time legal adviser and a good friend of Oscar!?) comes out of nowhere and testifies she was the first person on the scene when official police report stated that it was the security guard and then police arrived. She stated calmly:
"He was begging me to put her in the car. I told him to put her down. I told him we just need to see what's going on. I just saw blood everywhere."
..right, okay. either she is lying and covering for him or she must be dealing with dying people covered in blood on a daily basis. No shock, no emotions, she just calmly saying let's put her on the floor and see what's going on...really?
Furthermore, she lives 300m from Oscar's house and never mentioned she heard any arguments, shouting or shots fired, when others heard it from 500/600m and Oscar's balcony window was open all night as he stated. I can't wait when Gerrie 'the bulldog' Nel gets to her.

How exactly is she covering for him there? I don't see anything that would suggest that.

the fact that she was/is Oscar's legal adviser and a good friend since when he moved in to the estate should be enough to suggest she might be covering for him. just read some of her testimony, her statement of facts is just too good to be true. like i said, we will find out how calm she really is when 'the bulldog' gets to her.   

[st4nl3y]

btw, this is the actual bathroom window Oscar Pistorius thought intruded could have broke in through. i think he also thought the intruder was a midget on fly-jumpers or something.

[hilariousandco]

btw, this is the actual bathroom window Oscar Pistorius thought intruded could have broke in through. i think he also thought the intruder was a midget on fly-jumpers or something.

Yeah, his defense doesn't really make much sense. I guess the intruder excuse was the best thing he came up with at the time. I think it's probable that they just got into a fight/argument, she locked herself in the toilet, and he just repeatedly shot through the door in a rage.

[st4nl3y]

btw, this is the actual bathroom window Oscar Pistorius thought intruded could have broke in through. i think he also thought the intruder was a midget on fly-jumpers or something.

Yeah, his defense doesn't really make much sense. I guess the intruder excuse was the best thing he came up with at the time. I think it's probable that they just got into a fight/argument, she locked herself in the toilet, and he just repeatedly shot through the door in a rage.

Exactly mate! you got it spot on and that is what i and more than a half of followers think happened.

[st4nl3y]

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[miffman]

I feel like the trial is going to go on for a very very long time, even though most of us are sure that he is guilty lol

[bryant.coleman]

I feel like the trial is going to go on for a very very long time, even though most of us are sure that he is guilty lol

The only thing which is certain at this point of time is that he is not going to jail. Even if the jury finds him guilty and sentences him to prison, the South African president will immediately issue a pardon for him. There is nothing in the world that money can buy. 

[hilariousandco]

I feel like the trial is going to go on for a very very long time, even though most of us are sure that he is guilty lol

Most trials do, especially ones like this.

I feel like the trial is going to go on for a very very long time, even though most of us are sure that he is guilty lol

The only thing which is certain at this point of time is that he is not going to jail. Even if the jury finds him guilty and sentences him to prison, the South African president will immediately issue a pardon for him. There is nothing in the world that money can buy. 

I very much doubt that. What makes you think this will happen?

[Nathonas]

Oooh can't believe I missed this thread. This case has captivated me since I heard about it last year. It is really really weird. I do think it was on accident, but he should still go to jail at least for a couple of years. This reminds of that Fruitvale station shooting, where the cop killed a man by shooting him - he obviously did not intend to kill him (he said he thought he was taking out his taser) but that still doesn't excuse such gross incompetence. So I think the correct solution for the Pistorious case is the middle ground - make him do some time in prison for involuntary manslaughter, but not as much as for actual premeditated murder.

Having said that though, I'm looking forward to seeing more details come about the case. But my personal opinion is that it was just a very, very bad mistake on Pistorius' part, because it doesn't make any sense for him to do this out of malice.