Oscar Pistorius case

[Whitehouse]

With that don't you think that will allow him to get a nice chilled place to spend whatever time he serves and then be re-assesed jsut before his times up?

How do you work that out? They're not saying hes crazy nor is that his defense.

[dreamspark]

With that don't you think that will allow him to get a nice chilled place to spend whatever time he serves and then be re-assesed jsut before his times up?

How do you work that out? They're not saying hes crazy nor is that his defense.

No, but a danger to society and anxiety problems can often get you out of the worst places to spend time.

[boumalo]

With that don't you think that will allow him to get a nice chilled place to spend whatever time he serves and then be re-assesed jsut before his times up?

How do you work that out? They're not saying hes crazy nor is that his defense.

"On 12 May, forensic psychiatrist Dr. Merryl Vorster testified that Pistorius has a generalised anxiety disorder (GAD) and is a "distrusting and guarded" person hyper-vigilant about security, and also that in a fight or flight situation he is more likely to stand up to threatening situations than to flee, due to his disability.[101] The prosecution said they would bring an application for Pistorius' mental condition to be independently assessed under article 78 of the South African Criminal Procedure Act.[102]

On 13 May, the court heard concluding testimony from Dr. Vorster. Judge Masipa said she would rule the following day on the prosecution application to have Pistorius' mental condition evaluated.[103]

On 14 May, Judge Masipa granted the prosecution's application for Pistorius to be referred for mental evaluation.[104]

On 20 May, despite expert speculation that the evaluation should be on an in-patient basis,[105] Judge Masipa ordered evaluation to take place as an out-patient at Weskoppies Psychiatric Hospital in Pretoria weekdays between 9am and 4pm, starting 26 May and lasting up to thirty days. The trial will resume 30 June.[106][107]" from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Oscar_Pistorius

It is reasonable to think  he has a mental disorder

[hilariousandco]

It is reasonable to think  he has a mental disorder

Funny how it only comes to light after he's murderd someone. Didn't seem to hinder his life that much before.

[st4nl3y]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/oscar-pistorius-trial-verdict-%E2%80%93-live-coverage-084519642.html#uaSTnBf

[futurebit640]

I don't understand how the judge can declare that Pistorius had no intention to kill
and is completely absolved of murder charges.

[Gianluca95]

Without words. Only money can make miracles, where God can not, money can, that's absurd the judge's sentences.

[usairx]

The judge has already started reading her verdict; but it's not just a simple guilty/not guilty. She will summarize all the evidence, discuss credibility and explain the applicable law. So the actual result may only be known tomorrow.

[ivanst776]

One thing I am absolutely certain of, we are not getting the truth from him and we will probably never know for sure exactly what happened or why.

[st4nl3y]

Yes, full verdict will arrive tomorrow, but we already know what the veridct will say. Just gets to show how corrupted SA is, money does miracles there as we can clearly see. For me and many other Pisstorius is guilty of premidated murder and should be sentenced to life in prison!


The potential verdicts:

Not guilty on all charges

Should the athlete be found not guilty, he would leave court a free man. Pistorius would then have his 1m rand bail returned to him and would reserve the right to institute a civil case against the minister of police and justice for damages he felt he might have incurred during his prosecution.

Guilty on all charges

Premeditated murder in South Africa carries a minimum sentence of life imprisonment, which constitutes 25 years. Coupled with anything from two to five years in prison or a fine for the firearm and ammunition charges could see the athlete spend three decades in prison. South African law does afford him a parole hearing after 25 years and, if released, will still be on parole for the rest of his life.

Guilty on firearm and ammunition charges, not guilty of premeditated murder but guilty of culpable homicide

In this scenario, Pistorius could face a fine or up to five years in prison for the firearm charges but Judge Masipa could find that the prosecution had not proved premeditated murder beyond reasonable doubt. She could then still find Pistorius guilty of culpable homicide (manslaughter) which is a lesser charge than premeditated murder and focuses on negligence rather than intent. There is no prescribed sentence for culpable homicide in South African law and the sentence can be decided at the discretion of the judge based on the weight of evidence and circumstances surrounding the incident.

Not guilty on firearm and ammunition charges but guilty on premeditated murder charge

In this case, Pistorius will face a life sentence (25 years) or more depending on whether Judge Masipa feels that there are aggravating circumstances.

Sentencing and appeal

Should scenarios one to three occur then the following process will unfold.

After Masipa delivers her verdict the court will adjourn and reconvene at another date for sentencing. When court reconvenes both the prosecution and defence will present mitigating and aggravating circumstances to be considered by Judge Masipa during her sentencing. After considering both arguments, she will deliver her sentence.

After the sentence is delivered, Pistorius will have a chance to appeal both conviction and sentence. He can also be granted bail at the judge's discretion. However, these bail conditions will come with heavy conditions such as house arrest or reporting to a police station once a week
 

[the_K_man]

I honestly feel his guilty... can't believe the judge gave that ruling in favor of Oscar

[st4nl3y]

Bastard sentenced to 5 years in jail.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/oct/21/oscar-pistorius-sentencing-prison-live 

[the_K_man]

Bastard sentenced to 5 years in jail.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/oct/21/oscar-pistorius-sentencing-prison-live 

Can't believe he only got 5 years! The worst part is that he won't eve stay in jail for 5 years

[dicemant]

Well helps if your famous. 5 years for killing his GF ? I wonder if i get such a lenient sentence.

[Don007]

Bastard sentenced to 5 years in jail.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/oct/21/oscar-pistorius-sentencing-prison-live 

Can't believe he only got 5 years! The worst part is that he won't eve stay in jail for 5 years

What I've heard on the Dutch television, is that that 5 years will be about 10 months in jail probably, and for the rest of the years 'home arrest' (although I'm not sure whether that's the right term for it). Or was it 12 month? Anyway, that ain't much for taking someones life..

However, this doesn't have to be the final judgment, as an appeal can still be made.

[hilariousandco]

Bastard sentenced to 5 years in jail.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/oct/21/oscar-pistorius-sentencing-prison-live 

Can't believe he only got 5 years! The worst part is that he won't eve stay in jail for 5 years

He probably deserved a life sentence but it's hard to prove beyond all reasonable doubt his intention was murder so 5 years for manslaughter would probably be apt under the current laws, but his defense seem to think he'll spend less than a year in jail and the rest on house arrest whatever that means, which would be a joke.

[st4nl3y]

Bastard sentenced to 5 years in jail.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/oct/21/oscar-pistorius-sentencing-prison-live 

Can't believe he only got 5 years! The worst part is that he won't eve stay in jail for 5 years

He probably deserved a life sentence but it's hard to prove beyond all reasonable doubt his intention was murder so 5 years for manslaughter would probably be apt under the current laws, but his defense seem to think he'll spend less than a year in jail and the rest on house arrest whatever that means, which would be a joke.

Either way the judge made a joke out of SA justice system and also herself. She said she cannot support the theory of important people getting less sentence than normal people, yet she only gave him 5 years. If this was a regular John, he would get 20 years easy. And yeah, on top of all that he can file an appeal after only 10 months of serving his sentence. Another joke. I can only hope whenever he is going and whoever is in charge there, would give him warm welcome, prison style.

[1echo]

this blows.

he needs death setence. stupid fuckcer

[gordoh]

Money buys freedom guys. That's the sad reality of it. Oscar is as guilty as sin, but cops tamper with evidence so now they cant use the evidence to prove it. I have lost all faith in our judicial system.

[DarKSpectrE]

Life's so cheap in South Africa. 5 years is not enough to sort out this killer.