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May 03, 2014, 01:05:45 AM |
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After reading all those PM's I think Loljosh deserved to be paid 100 times what he got for having to deal with all that.
Loljosh more than did what he agreed to...and it was a pretty damn cheap fee.
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May 03, 2014, 01:14:57 AM |
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After reading all those PM's I think Loljosh deserved to be paid 100 times what he got for having to deal with all that.
Loljosh more than did what he agreed to...and it was a pretty damn cheap fee.
+1 I strongly agree.
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May 03, 2014, 01:23:00 AM |
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What's wrong with you? Forgot your own words? Let me remind you: "Guys this coin is a scam... I request the owner to refund the IPO money... ...he didn't pay me my fee for changing rewards and making it pure PoS after some time."
Why the hell he should have been paid you fee? Are you out of your mind? You got paid for the job, that's it, good bye.
I think you missed it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=593562.msg6515943#msg6515943Again think before you speak. You are just supporting a scamMaybe you can't read it! " You shouldn't have said you will provide 24x7 support/node etc in low amount in first place and kept your TOS transparent." And as for why you should not be paid you greedy prick: You had to deliver a "working" coin. Do you know the meaning of "working"?
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May 03, 2014, 01:26:11 AM |
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You seriously think it is okay to have paid someone roughly $90 for probably over 50 hours of work and then ask the person for the money back?
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May 03, 2014, 01:28:13 AM |
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You expect a complex software with zero(!!) bugs for .2 Bitcoin? Shame on you! Even big software companies can't reach that goal.
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May 03, 2014, 01:28:24 AM |
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You seriously think it is okay to have paid someone roughly $90 for probably over 50 hours of work and then ask the person for the money back? Did we put a gun to his head to do it? He happily agreed to the price! Maybe it was his intention from day 1 to do part of the work for the price! That's even more sad!
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May 03, 2014, 01:29:40 AM |
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You expect a complex software with zero(!!) bugs for .2 Bitcoin? Shame on you! Even big software companies can reach that goal.
Did his code have anywhere close to zero bugs? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) And the price was agreed upon mutually; cribbing about it after making the deal just proves the point that he is a scammer!
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May 03, 2014, 01:37:20 AM |
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You expect a complex software with zero(!!) bugs for .2 Bitcoin? Shame on you! Even big software companies can reach that goal.
Did his code have anywhere close to zero bugs? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) And the price was agreed upon mutually; cribbing about it after making the deal just proves the point that he is a scammer! It just proves none of you is a professional in any way.
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May 03, 2014, 01:57:46 AM |
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I've read all of it over and over again and finally understood what happaned! Fuck, loljosh you really have to put your minds together before posting anything.
First of all let me take all my occusations (except non-woring wallet) back, coz I wrote them based on false info. So I'm not saying you're a scammer and a blackmailer anymore. Ok?
Second. It's an employer-employee issue and you should have talked about them from that angle. Your relationship with BCCdev says nothing about the whole idea, but you're started from "stop mining, it's a scam!!!!". So, basically there were some misuderstandings between an employer and freelancer. It happens a lot. You showed yourseld an aweful freelancer. You agreed to do a lot of job for a very small price and delievered broken software. All issues started because of that. BCCdev wanted more work you agreed to and was ready to pay you extra but you as many other lazy freelancer started acting weird. BCCdev also started acting weird and asking his money back. And then you started posting lots and lots of bullshit instead of explianing in a few clear words what has happened. Anyway you acted very stupid and posted some accusations that have nothing to do with the reality. So I'm blaming you for all this bullshit.
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May 03, 2014, 02:04:00 AM |
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^ Agreed!
And loljosh has absolutely no proof that we are scamming anyone! Then why is he trying to destroy the image of the coin by posting its a scam? Any logical reason? NO!
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May 03, 2014, 02:19:28 AM |
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^ Agreed!
And loljosh has absolutely no proof that we are scamming anyone! Then why is he trying to destroy the image of the coin by posting its a scam? Any logical reason? NO!
Yes. That's what confused me. If he's not happy about your way of doing business he needs to take a deep breath and tell about it, instead of trying to convince people that you'll scam everybody and dump all coins.
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May 03, 2014, 02:35:44 AM |
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^ Agreed!
And loljosh has absolutely no proof that we are scamming anyone! Then why is he trying to destroy the image of the coin by posting its a scam? Any logical reason? NO!
Yes. That's what confused me. If he's not happy about your way of doing business he needs to take a deep breath and tell about it, instead of trying to convince people that you'll scam everybody and dump all coins. Yes that is what is called threatening and blackmailing!
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May 03, 2014, 07:38:54 AM |
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I just lost time and money because of your stupidity (I mean both of you) and yet I'm not asking for refund and not calling you SCAMMERS so please stop the bitching and work for your money...again, both of you ... ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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May 03, 2014, 09:02:11 AM |
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I think the biggest problem is/was communication. For me, working as an IT specialist, it is 100% clear, that if seomeone is going to create sth for just 0.2 BTC (85$ or 63€), that he rly CANT provide a first class service support. Thats just not possible. Even for a free worker, like the BCCtalkcoin programmer, it is just to less money. But its wrong of him, asking for more money now after he did the job. For me, the Windows Wallet is working stable. Same for the Linux wallet, its running since more than 2 full days now without any crash. Also my linux wallet has more than 27 Connections, sometimes it goes up to more than 40 Connections. So i think, the programmer did a good work by the time, because as i said, its running very stable. You 2 guys should go to skype/teamspeak or whatever, trying to talk in person. Some ppl mentioned it before: speaking a foreign language, can be hard for some ppl. Even if you think you speak perfect english, the other person might not speak perfect english, is asking for sth but for real, the tryed to say sth totally different. Maybe sth like this happend for you two guys also. I would talk about it instead of typeing unfriendly stuff ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 03, 2014, 12:56:21 PM |
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I think the biggest problem is/was communication. For me, working as an IT specialist, it is 100% clear, that if seomeone is going to create sth for just 0.2 BTC (85$ or 63€), that he rly CANT provide a first class service support. Thats just not possible. Even for a free worker, like the BCCtalkcoin programmer, it is just to less money. But its wrong of him, asking for more money now after he did the job. For me, the Windows Wallet is working stable. Same for the Linux wallet, its running since more than 2 full days now without any crash. Also my linux wallet has more than 27 Connections, sometimes it goes up to more than 40 Connections. So i think, the programmer did a good work by the time, because as i said, its running very stable. You 2 guys should go to skype/teamspeak or whatever, trying to talk in person. Some ppl mentioned it before: speaking a foreign language, can be hard for some ppl. Even if you think you speak perfect english, the other person might not speak perfect english, is asking for sth but for real, the tryed to say sth totally different. Maybe sth like this happend for you two guys also. I would talk about it instead of typeing unfriendly stuff ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I never asked him to pay me more BTC. Here is the screenshot in which he is offering me more BTC: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUsU5em7.png&t=665&c=jNaMeOx8lpT1aA)
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May 03, 2014, 01:04:10 PM |
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I think the biggest problem is/was communication. For me, working as an IT specialist, it is 100% clear, that if seomeone is going to create sth for just 0.2 BTC (85$ or 63€), that he rly CANT provide a first class service support. Thats just not possible. Even for a free worker, like the BCCtalkcoin programmer, it is just to less money. But its wrong of him, asking for more money now after he did the job. For me, the Windows Wallet is working stable. Same for the Linux wallet, its running since more than 2 full days now without any crash. Also my linux wallet has more than 27 Connections, sometimes it goes up to more than 40 Connections. So i think, the programmer did a good work by the time, because as i said, its running very stable. You 2 guys should go to skype/teamspeak or whatever, trying to talk in person. Some ppl mentioned it before: speaking a foreign language, can be hard for some ppl. Even if you think you speak perfect english, the other person might not speak perfect english, is asking for sth but for real, the tryed to say sth totally different. Maybe sth like this happend for you two guys also. I would talk about it instead of typeing unfriendly stuff ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I never asked him to pay me more BTC. Here is the screenshot in which he is offering me more BTC: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUsU5em7.png&t=665&c=jNaMeOx8lpT1aA) I see, you didnt but he offered it. Rly seems like u have a communication problem!! Dunno if its from the foreign language or why, but: Shouldnt now be everything ok again? U got your 0.2 BTC and BCCdev got a working coin. There are sometimes wrong virus messages, especially on virustotal.com If you create sth, and check it vs an immaginarry unlimited amount of different virus scanners, one of them will say its a virus for 100%. It would have been bad, if loljosh would have compiled the wallet with lets say 30% if all virustotal.com scanners, but he didnt.
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May 03, 2014, 01:11:17 PM |
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I think the biggest problem is/was communication. For me, working as an IT specialist, it is 100% clear, that if seomeone is going to create sth for just 0.2 BTC (85$ or 63€), that he rly CANT provide a first class service support. Thats just not possible. Even for a free worker, like the BCCtalkcoin programmer, it is just to less money. But its wrong of him, asking for more money now after he did the job. For me, the Windows Wallet is working stable. Same for the Linux wallet, its running since more than 2 full days now without any crash. Also my linux wallet has more than 27 Connections, sometimes it goes up to more than 40 Connections. So i think, the programmer did a good work by the time, because as i said, its running very stable. You 2 guys should go to skype/teamspeak or whatever, trying to talk in person. Some ppl mentioned it before: speaking a foreign language, can be hard for some ppl. Even if you think you speak perfect english, the other person might not speak perfect english, is asking for sth but for real, the tryed to say sth totally different. Maybe sth like this happend for you two guys also. I would talk about it instead of typeing unfriendly stuff ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I never asked him to pay me more BTC. Here is the screenshot in which he is offering me more BTC: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUsU5em7.png&t=665&c=jNaMeOx8lpT1aA) I see, you didnt but he offered it. Rly seems like u have a communication problem!! Dunno if its from the foreign language or why, but: Shouldnt now be everything ok again? U got your 0.2 BTC and BCCdev got a working coin. There are sometimes wrong virus messages, especially on virustotal.com If you create sth, and check it vs an immaginarry unlimited amount of different virus scanners, one of them will say its a virus for 100%. It would have been bad, if loljosh would have compiled the wallet with lets say 30% if all virustotal.com scanners, but he didnt. I got paid 0.2 BTC as we decided. But what about the later payment that he promised about after providing him update. You can clearly see on the thread that the new update is live and working perfect.
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May 03, 2014, 01:30:11 PM |
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May 03, 2014, 01:56:05 PM |
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I think the biggest problem is/was communication. For me, working as an IT specialist, it is 100% clear, that if seomeone is going to create sth for just 0.2 BTC (85$ or 63€), that he rly CANT provide a first class service support. Thats just not possible. Even for a free worker, like the BCCtalkcoin programmer, it is just to less money. But its wrong of him, asking for more money now after he did the job. For me, the Windows Wallet is working stable. Same for the Linux wallet, its running since more than 2 full days now without any crash. Also my linux wallet has more than 27 Connections, sometimes it goes up to more than 40 Connections. So i think, the programmer did a good work by the time, because as i said, its running very stable. You 2 guys should go to skype/teamspeak or whatever, trying to talk in person. Some ppl mentioned it before: speaking a foreign language, can be hard for some ppl. Even if you think you speak perfect english, the other person might not speak perfect english, is asking for sth but for real, the tryed to say sth totally different. Maybe sth like this happend for you two guys also. I would talk about it instead of typeing unfriendly stuff ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I never asked him to pay me more BTC. Here is the screenshot in which he is offering me more BTC: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUsU5em7.png&t=665&c=jNaMeOx8lpT1aA) I see, you didnt but he offered it. Rly seems like u have a communication problem!! Dunno if its from the foreign language or why, but: Shouldnt now be everything ok again? U got your 0.2 BTC and BCCdev got a working coin. There are sometimes wrong virus messages, especially on virustotal.com If you create sth, and check it vs an immaginarry unlimited amount of different virus scanners, one of them will say its a virus for 100%. It would have been bad, if loljosh would have compiled the wallet with lets say 30% if all virustotal.com scanners, but he didnt. I got paid 0.2 BTC as we decided. But what about the later payment that he promised about after providing him update. You can clearly see on the thread that the new update is live and working perfect. Well it's up to you two and not rly my business,but: If the part of the 0.2BTC wasnt the coin being a PoS after x days, then i think loljosh should get a little bonus from BCCdev. But as a reminder for everyone: Don't setup any "contracts" without haveing an escrow.
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May 03, 2014, 03:45:57 PM |
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so, everything is ok between you two? is the problem solved or you want to accusing each other again? i've invested some btc on this coin light me up what is your plan
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