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May 03, 2014, 09:06:57 AM
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Can we get the option of seeing our reports that get marked as bad? I got a bad report yesterday for the first time in a while and I have no idea what it was for. I understand they're kept on the system for two weeks so I think it'd be beneficial if we could see the ones that have been rejected. This way at least people can learn from their mistakes and get a general idea of what should and shouldn't be reported.

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Can we get the option of seeing our reports that get marked as bad? I got a bad report yesterday for the first time in a while and I have no idea what it was for. I understand they're kept on the system for two weeks so I think it'd be beneficial if we could see the ones that have been rejected. This way at least people can learn from their mistakes and get a general idea of what should and shouldn't be reported.
I handled a lot of your reports recently. Guess I'm on a similar time line .I marked one as bad since you reported a thread in a Beginners section that actually fit there. That's it, I think.


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May 03, 2014, 09:18:52 AM
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Can we get the option of seeing our reports that get marked as bad? I got a bad report yesterday for the first time in a while and I have no idea what it was for. I understand they're kept on the system for two weeks so I think it'd be beneficial if we could see the ones that have been rejected. This way at least people can learn from their mistakes and get a general idea of what should and shouldn't be reported.
I handled a lot of your reports recently. Guess I'm on a similar time line .I marked one as bad since you reported a thread in a Beginners section that actually fit there. That's it, I think.

Hmm, you sure it was bad? It was just the one bad report as far as I'm aware so that must've been it. I only actually started reporting the pointless newb welcome threads because you seem to always move them to the trashcan  Grin.

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May 03, 2014, 09:22:01 AM
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Can we get the option of seeing our reports that get marked as bad? I got a bad report yesterday for the first time in a while and I have no idea what it was for. I understand they're kept on the system for two weeks so I think it'd be beneficial if we could see the ones that have been rejected. This way at least people can learn from their mistakes and get a general idea of what should and shouldn't be reported.
I handled a lot of your reports recently. Guess I'm on a similar time line .I marked one as bad since you reported a thread in a Beginners section that actually fit there. That's it, I think.

Hmm, you sure it was bad? It was just the one bad report as far as I'm aware so that must've been it. I only actually started reporting the pointless newb welcome threads because you seem to always move them to the trashcan  Grin.
You reported some thread regarding a trade or something which actually fit the section. And yeah, I know it was only one Cheesy. Don't worry too much, some mods have accuracies as low as 60% I think and it's still considered a good rating.

Regarding useless welcome threads, keep reporting them. However some introductions actually have important question or are overall substantial. Try to report those who have none of what was mentioned and contain only one or two sentences.


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May 03, 2014, 09:41:37 AM
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Can we get the option of seeing our reports that get marked as bad? I got a bad report yesterday for the first time in a while and I have no idea what it was for. I understand they're kept on the system for two weeks so I think it'd be beneficial if we could see the ones that have been rejected. This way at least people can learn from their mistakes and get a general idea of what should and shouldn't be reported.
I handled a lot of your reports recently. Guess I'm on a similar time line .I marked one as bad since you reported a thread in a Beginners section that actually fit there. That's it, I think.

Hmm, you sure it was bad? It was just the one bad report as far as I'm aware so that must've been it. I only actually started reporting the pointless newb welcome threads because you seem to always move them to the trashcan  Grin.
You reported some thread regarding a trade or something which actually fit the section. And yeah, I know it was only one Cheesy. Don't worry too much, some mods have accuracies as low as 60% I think and it's still considered a good rating.

Regarding useless welcome threads, keep reporting them. However some introductions actually have important question or are overall substantial. Try to report those who have none of what was mentioned and contain only one or two sentences.

A trade? I'm not sure what that could be? Could you check if it's not too much trouble? I'd like to know what it was for future reference. And yeah, I don't suppose the overall score matters too much but I like to keep it up haha. And yeah, I know not to report any newb threads that actually have valid questions or content in, just the welcome / hi I'm new here etc ones which is what I thought I did, unless I only glanced over it.

And how do mods get marked on accuracy? Do they go to an admin for verification or something?

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May 03, 2014, 09:47:15 AM
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Can we get the option of seeing our reports that get marked as bad? I got a bad report yesterday for the first time in a while and I have no idea what it was for. I understand they're kept on the system for two weeks so I think it'd be beneficial if we could see the ones that have been rejected. This way at least people can learn from their mistakes and get a general idea of what should and shouldn't be reported.
I handled a lot of your reports recently. Guess I'm on a similar time line .I marked one as bad since you reported a thread in a Beginners section that actually fit there. That's it, I think.

Hmm, you sure it was bad? It was just the one bad report as far as I'm aware so that must've been it. I only actually started reporting the pointless newb welcome threads because you seem to always move them to the trashcan  Grin.
You reported some thread regarding a trade or something which actually fit the section. And yeah, I know it was only one Cheesy. Don't worry too much, some mods have accuracies as low as 60% I think and it's still considered a good rating.

Regarding useless welcome threads, keep reporting them. However some introductions actually have important question or are overall substantial. Try to report those who have none of what was mentioned and contain only one or two sentences.

A trade? I'm not sure what that could be? Could you check if it's not too much trouble? I'd like to know what it was for future reference. And yeah, I don't suppose the overall score matters too much but I like to keep it up haha. And yeah, I know not to report any newb threads that actually have valid questions or content in, just the welcome / hi I'm new here etc ones which is what I thought I did, unless I only glanced over it.

And how do mods get marked on accuracy? Do they go to an admin for verification or something?
I looked through the reports but I seem to notice multiple bad reports so I'm not sure which one was handled by me. And regarding accuracy, we also use the "Report to moderator" button - we're not all global moderators, you know.


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May 03, 2014, 09:50:35 AM
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Can we get the option of seeing our reports that get marked as bad? I got a bad report yesterday for the first time in a while and I have no idea what it was for. I understand they're kept on the system for two weeks so I think it'd be beneficial if we could see the ones that have been rejected. This way at least people can learn from their mistakes and get a general idea of what should and shouldn't be reported.
I handled a lot of your reports recently. Guess I'm on a similar time line .I marked one as bad since you reported a thread in a Beginners section that actually fit there. That's it, I think.

Hmm, you sure it was bad? It was just the one bad report as far as I'm aware so that must've been it. I only actually started reporting the pointless newb welcome threads because you seem to always move them to the trashcan  Grin.
You reported some thread regarding a trade or something which actually fit the section. And yeah, I know it was only one Cheesy. Don't worry too much, some mods have accuracies as low as 60% I think and it's still considered a good rating.

Regarding useless welcome threads, keep reporting them. However some introductions actually have important question or are overall substantial. Try to report those who have none of what was mentioned and contain only one or two sentences.

A trade? I'm not sure what that could be? Could you check if it's not too much trouble? I'd like to know what it was for future reference. And yeah, I don't suppose the overall score matters too much but I like to keep it up haha. And yeah, I know not to report any newb threads that actually have valid questions or content in, just the welcome / hi I'm new here etc ones which is what I thought I did, unless I only glanced over it.

And how do mods get marked on accuracy? Do they go to an admin for verification or something?
I looked through the reports but I seem to notice multiple bad reports so I'm not sure which one was handled by me. And regarding accuracy, we also use the "Report to moderator" button - we're not all global moderators, you know.

Multiple ones? How many? I thought there was just the one judging by my score. Could you tell me or PM what those were if it's not much of a hassle?

Oh, so can you guys only handle the stuff in your own respective sub forums, and for everything else you have to report as well?

Also, is there a list anywhere of what posts should and shouldn't be reported?

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May 03, 2014, 10:24:03 AM
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Can we get the option of seeing our reports that get marked as bad? I got a bad report yesterday for the first time in a while and I have no idea what it was for. I understand they're kept on the system for two weeks so I think it'd be beneficial if we could see the ones that have been rejected. This way at least people can learn from their mistakes and get a general idea of what should and shouldn't be reported.
I handled a lot of your reports recently. Guess I'm on a similar time line .I marked one as bad since you reported a thread in a Beginners section that actually fit there. That's it, I think.

Hmm, you sure it was bad? It was just the one bad report as far as I'm aware so that must've been it. I only actually started reporting the pointless newb welcome threads because you seem to always move them to the trashcan  Grin.
You reported some thread regarding a trade or something which actually fit the section. And yeah, I know it was only one Cheesy. Don't worry too much, some mods have accuracies as low as 60% I think and it's still considered a good rating.

Regarding useless welcome threads, keep reporting them. However some introductions actually have important question or are overall substantial. Try to report those who have none of what was mentioned and contain only one or two sentences.

A trade? I'm not sure what that could be? Could you check if it's not too much trouble? I'd like to know what it was for future reference. And yeah, I don't suppose the overall score matters too much but I like to keep it up haha. And yeah, I know not to report any newb threads that actually have valid questions or content in, just the welcome / hi I'm new here etc ones which is what I thought I did, unless I only glanced over it.

And how do mods get marked on accuracy? Do they go to an admin for verification or something?
I looked through the reports but I seem to notice multiple bad reports so I'm not sure which one was handled by me. And regarding accuracy, we also use the "Report to moderator" button - we're not all global moderators, you know.

Multiple ones? How many? I thought there was just the one judging by my score. Could you tell me or PM what those were if it's not much of a hassle?

Oh, so can you guys only handle the stuff in your own respective sub forums, and for everything else you have to report as well?

Also, is there a list anywhere of what posts should and shouldn't be reported?
I noticed 5, I think. Most of them, even though handled already, were changed/moderated/deleted so it's not worth posting them. It really depends on the moderator which handles them.

Yeah, we have to report some stuff as well. Regarding a list, we usually follow various tips both from theymos and older/higher rank mods. A few of these threads are:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20333.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=401897.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160832.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3629.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=376106.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=549205.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14356.0

EDIT: Forgot to post this one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.0


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May 03, 2014, 10:30:41 AM
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The thing is mprep, you won't be able to do this for every single person. What if more people want to know? I believe that leting us know which of our reports were bad will increase the report quality in general. 














 

 

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The thing is mprep, you won't be able to do this for every single person. What if more people want to know? I believe that leting us know which of our reports were bad will increase the report quality in general. 
Well, I'm not the dev here, nor the admin. If you want such feature (being able to see which of your reports were handled and how), make a thread in the "New forum software" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0) and if it gets enough attention, it might get included.


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May 03, 2014, 10:44:17 AM
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The thing is mprep, you won't be able to do this for every single person. What if more people want to know? I believe that leting us know which of our reports were bad will increase the report quality in general. 

It will. I think if some people report posts and they get a bad report it'll put a lot of people off reporting more especially if they're not aware why or what it was for. Also, a lot of people really don't know what should be reported. Like, I think the majority of people would initially think that scams should be reported, but as we all know the mods don't handle these. A consolidated sticky or post in Meta that can be linked to with what posts should and shouldn't be reported would be helpful.

Well, I'm not the dev here, nor the admin. If you want such feature (being able to see which of your reports were handled and how), make a thread in the "New forum software" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0) and if it gets enough attention, it might get included.

That would be a good idea and I don't suppose it would be too difficult to implement on this forum, but I know it also wouldn't be a priority either.

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May 06, 2014, 12:46:59 AM
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Multiple ones? How many? I thought there was just the one judging by my score. Could you tell me or PM what those were if it's not much of a hassle?
In the last two weeks, you have had 7 bad reports. From what I can tell, all but two should have been marked as handled instead of bad, since action was eventually taken on them. (However, I can't tell if the action was related to your report, so take that with a grain of salt...)

Here are the two unactioned bad reports:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590805.msg6480347#msg6480347
mprep already covered why this one was bad.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33812.msg6451731#msg6451731
Assuming this guy made the content, it's okay that he posted his address. I would have prefered that he not necro that thread, but it is a relevant response.

Oh, so can you guys only handle the stuff in your own respective sub forums, and for everything else you have to report as well?
As for Global Mods, we aren't ever checked for accuracy like most people are. Once a month, theymos will spot-check a random sampling of our mod actions to ensure that they were proper. The results of that check are used as a factor in determining how much we get paid.

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May 06, 2014, 11:34:52 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33812.msg6451731#msg6451731
Assuming this guy made the content, it's okay that he posted his address. I would have prefered that he not necro that thread, but it is a relevant response.

I'm almost sure it was me who handled that report. I marked it as a bad report for the reasons Maged stated above.
Also, lately I've handled a lot of your reports and from what I remember, that was the only one I marked as bad.

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May 06, 2014, 11:40:46 AM
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Multiple ones? How many? I thought there was just the one judging by my score. Could you tell me or PM what those were if it's not much of a hassle?
In the last two weeks, you have had 7 bad reports. From what I can tell, all but two should have been marked as handled instead of bad, since action was eventually taken on them. (However, I can't tell if the action was related to your report, so take that with a grain of salt...)

Here are the two unactioned bad reports:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590805.msg6480347#msg6480347
mprep already covered why this one was bad.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33812.msg6451731#msg6451731
Assuming this guy made the content, it's okay that he posted his address. I would have prefered that he not necro that thread, but it is a relevant response.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33812.msg6451731#msg6451731
Assuming this guy made the content, it's okay that he posted his address. I would have prefered that he not necro that thread, but it is a relevant response.

I'm almost sure it was me who handled that report. I marked it as a bad report for the reasons Maged stated above.
Also, lately I've handled a lot of your reports and from what I remember, that was the only one I marked as bad.

Ah ok, I see where I went wrong on those. I guess sometimes it's a tough call on some instances, but hopefully I wont make the same mistakes now.

Thanks both for the clarifications.

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May 06, 2014, 11:51:38 AM
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Much of it is interpretation of mods and not everyone sees things the same way. Sometimes we misread or misunderstand the poster or content of post. Things I thought were surefire trash/junk/spam were deemed valid. That's why I have all but stopped reporting unless it is "broke over your head blatantly obvious".
All in all the mods do a good job.

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Please don't be discouraged from reporting things that could be interpreted either way. I know that the gamification system seems to discourage that, but that's the fault of the system, not your reports. Let me quote what I recently said about this in terms of being invited to be a mod:
Your success rate doesn't actually matter all that much. If you're above 60%, we'll teach you the rest once you become a mod. As long as you can maintain that, quantity of reports is much more important than quality. Specifically, we're looking for people who report things during time periods where the reports aren't immediately acted on, because that indicates a need for additional moderators for that time block. People who report things during those time are far more likely to be chosen, and you're more likely to report during those times if you report more in general.

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