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May 04, 2014, 06:49:45 PM
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I've been a fan of Russell from way before he was famous and regardless of what anyone says about him he does have a lot of interesting things to say. He's going to have to find a balance between being a Hollywood A-lister and an outspoken libertarian (or whatever you want to call him) without looking like a hypocrite though (not that you can't necessarily be both). He's a very intelligent person and I agree with the vast majority of what he has to say, but I really hope he doesn't ruin his career because of his outspoken views as I can easily see him getting blackballed and falling into obscurity like many others who speak out against the norm or MSM etc.

I also love how Russell manages to woo pretty much any woman that he comes into contact with. I suspect that's why a lot of men hate him haha.

i'm a fan of his, and also a meditator like him. he's pretty awesome. i know some people criticize him for "preaching" while living with abundant wealth, but it's not a big issue for me.

btw, if guys hate him, it's because he kind of has a bohemian/hippie style to him. and they hate that.

I think criticising his wealth is a petty topic really and that's usually also just out of jealousy, but I'm sure there are many reasons why people, especially men, dislike him: wealth, fame, looks, intelligence, Englishness, eccentricity, outspokenness, and most of all the sheer amount of women he's slept with and they haven't  Cheesy.

And I don't get the whole meditating thing. I've always been a sceptic of it but maybe I just don't understand it.

you should try the meditation before being a skeptic. doesn't that make sense?

and being british makes him hateable huh.. i didn't know people hated brits. i think the people who don't like him because he speaks freely and has that hippie vibe - lots of americans hate hippies, mainly the conservatives.

You don't think people hate people because of their nationality? You also seem to try make a point of my Englishness or Britishness when you can too  Cheesy. People will use whatever they can about you to try get one over or dislike you for it.

And I'm a sceptic on spiritualist mediums, but it doesn't mean I need to go see one to confirm my suspicious. All meditation looks like to me is closing your eyes and relaxing. I do that all the time right before I go to bed.

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May 04, 2014, 07:22:47 PM
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I've been a fan of Russell from way before he was famous and regardless of what anyone says about him he does have a lot of interesting things to say. He's going to have to find a balance between being a Hollywood A-lister and an outspoken libertarian (or whatever you want to call him) without looking like a hypocrite though (not that you can't necessarily be both). He's a very intelligent person and I agree with the vast majority of what he has to say, but I really hope he doesn't ruin his career because of his outspoken views as I can easily see him getting blackballed and falling into obscurity like many others who speak out against the norm or MSM etc.

I also love how Russell manages to woo pretty much any woman that he comes into contact with. I suspect that's why a lot of men hate him haha.

i'm a fan of his, and also a meditator like him. he's pretty awesome. i know some people criticize him for "preaching" while living with abundant wealth, but it's not a big issue for me.

btw, if guys hate him, it's because he kind of has a bohemian/hippie style to him. and they hate that.

I think criticising his wealth is a petty topic really and that's usually also just out of jealousy, but I'm sure there are many reasons why people, especially men, dislike him: wealth, fame, looks, intelligence, Englishness, eccentricity, outspokenness, and most of all the sheer amount of women he's slept with and they haven't  Cheesy.

And I don't get the whole meditating thing. I've always been a sceptic of it but maybe I just don't understand it.

you should try the meditation before being a skeptic. doesn't that make sense?

and being british makes him hateable huh.. i didn't know people hated brits. i think the people who don't like him because he speaks freely and has that hippie vibe - lots of americans hate hippies, mainly the conservatives.

You don't think people hate people because of their nationality? You also seem to try make a point of my Englishness or Britishness when you can too  Cheesy. People will use whatever they can about you to try get one over or dislike you for it.

And I'm a sceptic on spiritualist mediums, but it doesn't mean I need to go see one to confirm my suspicious. All meditation looks like to me is closing your eyes and relaxing. I do that all the time right before I go to bed.

there's a difference between talking shit and hating/disliking someone or something. i just talk shit about brits. i've never really heard someone say "fuck that guy man, he's a brit."
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May 05, 2014, 08:31:18 AM
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Brand’s excoriation of the political class felt to many like a breath of fresh air. But while Brand’s humor-infused brew of Marxism, anarchism and New Age spirituality may seem like the mere rantings of a rebellious entertainer who frequently refers to himself as a “Jungian Trickster,” I would argue he represents a more dangerous omen.

The Occupy Wall Street “movement” (if there ever was such a thing) – and emerging generations of young Americans more generally – is being led by Brand and other pied pipers away from practical reality and into an illusory “world of pure imagination”. What in 2009 had the makings of a New Deal-oriented mass strike upsurge is being steered off course by Wall Street interests in a rehash of 1968.

I did some research on Tue May 01, 2012 6:36 am (quoted below) on the Long Wave Cycle (a generational cycle) which predicts the above effect. The youth will take over after 2032, and the kind of world they will create will be one of extreme idealism. This is FDR New Deal style of dangerous. This will launch big government on a bigger scale than we had ever seen before, i.e. "international cooperation" as code word for loss of local sovereignty. The youth will put in place the U.N. Agenda 21 with a gleam in their eye as they are trained and indoctrinated now to believe for example that man-made global climate change hoax is real and is a real problem.

Here follows the research, and I urge everyone to study this carefully.


I haven't verified whether this long wave cycle principle repeats throughout history, but I assume he has, since he said he spent 10 years perfecting it:

http://www.longwavegroup.com/principle/lefi_map/lefi_map.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58qtcPst2OI

I had read an article that ties this cycle into generational cycle attitudes. I am trying to find it, as I think it explains a difference in world view between Boomers, Gen X, and Gen Y.

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Okay I found it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss-Howe_generational_theory#Defining_a_generation
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/james-quinn/2011/11/03/bad-moon-rising
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/james-quinn/the-gathering-storm

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 	    Prophet      Nomad        Hero         Artist
High    Childhood Elderhood    Midlife      Young Adult
Awakening   Young Adult  Childhood    Elderhood    Midlife
Unraveling  Midlife      Young Adult  Childhood    Elderhood
Crisis      Elderhood Midlife      Young Adult  Childhood

High = Spring
Awakening = Summer
Unraveling = Fall
Crisis = Winter

Prophet = Boomers (born 1946 - 1964), 40 percent of the workforce
Nomad = Gen X (born 1965 - 1979), 16 percent of the workforce
Hero = Gen Y (born 1980 - 1994), 25 percent of the workforce
Artist = Gen Z (born 1995+)

Boomers = vision, values, and religion (loyalty, idealistic, entitled)
Nomad = liberty, survival and honor (survival, pragmatic, alienated)
Hero = community, affluence, and technology (order, righteous, protected)
Artist = expertise and due process (continuity, flexible, overprotected)

Some links on different attitudes between the current generations:

http://www.reliableplant.com/Read/2431/boomers-generations
http://jojackson.suite101.com/veterans-baby-boomers-gen-x-gen-y-and-gen-z-a185353
http://www.enotes.com/soc/discuss/what-different-characteristics-generation-x-e-90271

I made some interesting comments here:

http://relativisticobserver.blogspot.com/2012/03/hackers-part-3.html?showComment=1335903496830#c239549748064135439

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I presented the generational research in the Transparency blog, which explains why we are not going to agree on the use of the government to enforce values:

http://relativisticobserver.blogspot.com/2012/04/transparency-way-of-future.html?showComment=1335900204476#c1703906618219560883

At least we can be rational about understanding why we have different political philosophies.

We Gen X did not grow up entitled. We have to struggle on our own to get where we are. We don't feel entitled, and thus we are not stakeholders in the society that the Boomers built. We trust the free market, because that is what we were dealing with on our own. Social security won't be there for us. The boomers took more than all (debt every where). We've had to scrap and negotiate hard to get some. And instead of giving back to us now the peace of individual freedom that we want, they want to put their value system on us (which will continue to escalate the wars).

So there is conflict ahead.

The Heros are going to rebuild new institutions and fighting the wars to tear down the current corrupt ones. We Nomads are caught in the cross-fire and just trying to find a way to not get squeezed out. Thus we have no choice but to discard the social contract, as it won't be rebuilt in time for us.

http://relativisticobserver.blogspot.com/2012/04/transparency-way-of-future.html?showComment=1335900204476#c1703906618219560883

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So now we can understand why boomer's (you) politics are loyalty, enforcing idealistic values, and maintaining entitlements.

And Gen X's (me) politics are liberty, pragmatic survival, individualism (honor), and distrust of values and institutions. I am libertarian anarchist. So trying to convince me that the entitled state should enforce values, is like me telling you that we should privatize the government.

Fascinating.

It explains why we are going to disagree about any political/social topics, such as Hackers, Transparency, media's role in society, etc..

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Some useful tables (although I think this deviates in some cases from the generational theory in the prior comment):

http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/james-quinn/2011/11/03/bad-moon-rising

The Boomers (elders) and Heros (youth) are archtypes and will be at odds. Boomers will judge them to have threatened values (remember the Heros are protected), yet ironically the above link claims the Boomers did more drugs, volunteered less, have lower college education, and higher teen pregnancy than the Heros do.


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May 05, 2014, 02:16:06 PM
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I did some research on Tue May 01, 2012 6:36 am (quoted below) on the Long Wave Cycle (a generational cycle)

It's a lot less complicated than that.

For 5,000 years a war has raged between people who attempt to predate others, and people who resist predation.

The use of Russell Brand as an anthropological weapon is merely the latest iteration.

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I did some research on Tue May 01, 2012 6:36 am (quoted below) on the Long Wave Cycle (a generational cycle)

It's a lot less complicated than that.

For 5,000 years a war has raged between people who attempt to predate others, and people who resist predation.

The use of Russell Brand as an anthropological weapon is merely the latest iteration.

It is a mistake to think of the universe as a one-way progression except in terms of expanding entropy.

There must be friction else nothing could exist, because if speed-of-light was infinite the past and present would collapse into a single point (and thus nothing would exist). With friction there must exist cycles (waves), because nothing will cascade without reverberation, reflection, diffraction, etc., e.g. consider the Butterfly effect. I covered this in great detail in my blog essay on the The Universe:

http://unheresy.com/The%20Universe.html#Matter_as_a_continuum

Thus it is import to study the Generational Cycle I shared and understand that the youth will be coming up as Hero and Artist generational cycle attitudes. Thus when they rebuild the global economy (circa 2032 per Armstrong's model) after this imminent Sovereign Debt Big Bang (Armstrong's model's ETA is Oct 2015), they will be applying extreme idealism. And that is extremely dangerous.

Note that Martin Armstrong's ECM model is based on multiples of Pi, i.e. 8.6 years, and one of the key periods is 3 x 8.6 = 25.6 years which is roughly the maturity cycle of a human wherein one forms a family to generate a new cycle. Armstrong's real estate boom & bust cycle (which also appears to correlate with bouts of technological unemployment) is 3 x 25.6 = 76.8 years.

You provided numerous analysis and examples of how that is occurring and I suggest readers study your post which I had replied to.

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May 05, 2014, 11:28:26 PM
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It is a mistake to think of the universe as a one-way progression except in terms of expanding entropy.

This life is nothing short of a redefining quantum shift of mystical peace.  Awareness is a constant. Wisdom requires exploration. Greed is born in the gap where science has been excluded.

Thought may be the solution to what’s holding you back from a magnificent wellspring of inseparability. As you dream, you will enter into infinite wisdom that transcends understanding. Through thought, our hopes are enveloped in truth.

You will soon be aligned by a power deep within yourself — a power that is cosmic, mystical. Although you may not realize it, you are unrestricted. If you have never experienced this revolution at the speed of light, it can be difficult to exist.

The cosmos is calling to you via chaos-driven reactions. Can you hear it? Have you found your quest? How should you navigate this internal totality?

    It can be difficult to know where to begin.

Yes, it is possible to eliminate the things that can eliminate us, but not without peace on our side. We can no longer afford to live with turbulence. The complexity of the present time seems to demand a deepening of our bodies if we are going to survive.

You and I are entities of the nexus. Today, science tells us that the essence of nature is grace. We exist as sub-atomic particles.

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