Say "Good Bye" to HDD.

[BurtW]

So how many years can a SSD hold its data

See data retention on page 9 of this reference:

http://www.flashmemorysummit.com/English/Collaterals/Proceedings/2012/20120821_TA12_Yoon_Tressler.pdf

[hilariousandco]

Ebay is really unreliable. a lot of sellers who sell used shit don't put proper descriptions. recently bought a laptop and the details weren't very accurate.

I have stopped purchasing anything of value from Ebay, even when they are offering steep discounts. What is the use in getting a 30% discount, when the product itself can be unreliable?

i don't like ebay's fees for selling either. exorbitant fees. it's going to be something like 14% of your revenues.

I don't really sell that much on eBay anymore due to the high fees, but it's still unfortunately pretty much the best place to sell stuff, though I wish it wasn't. As for having trouble with buying on eBay, you've just got to pick the sellers wisely. A major chain could also easily just say you broke it and it's not covered under the warranty too. If you ever buy something that isn't as described you can send it back and you'll get your money back off PP in most cases.

[beetcoin]

Ebay is really unreliable. a lot of sellers who sell used shit don't put proper descriptions. recently bought a laptop and the details weren't very accurate.

I have stopped purchasing anything of value from Ebay, even when they are offering steep discounts. What is the use in getting a 30% discount, when the product itself can be unreliable?

i don't like ebay's fees for selling either. exorbitant fees. it's going to be something like 14% of your revenues.

I don't really sell that much on eBay anymore due to the high fees, but it's still unfortunately pretty much the best place to sell stuff, though I wish it wasn't. As for having trouble with buying on eBay, you've just got to pick the sellers wisely. A major chain could also easily just say you broke it and it's not covered under the warranty too. If you ever buy something that isn't as described you can send it back and you'll get your money back off PP in most cases.

use craigslist mate.. if you are trying to get rid of your junk. i don't sell junk though, just stuff i buy from a wholesaler to re-sell.

[hilariousandco]

Ebay is really unreliable. a lot of sellers who sell used shit don't put proper descriptions. recently bought a laptop and the details weren't very accurate.

I have stopped purchasing anything of value from Ebay, even when they are offering steep discounts. What is the use in getting a 30% discount, when the product itself can be unreliable?

i don't like ebay's fees for selling either. exorbitant fees. it's going to be something like 14% of your revenues.

I don't really sell that much on eBay anymore due to the high fees, but it's still unfortunately pretty much the best place to sell stuff, though I wish it wasn't. As for having trouble with buying on eBay, you've just got to pick the sellers wisely. A major chain could also easily just say you broke it and it's not covered under the warranty too. If you ever buy something that isn't as described you can send it back and you'll get your money back off PP in most cases.

use craigslist mate.. if you are trying to get rid of your junk. i don't sell junk though, just stuff i buy from a wholesaler to re-sell.

Does Craigslist even operate in the UK? I know we have gumtree, but those kind of sites are always less popular and seem kinda sketchy and tend to be more scammy to me.

[MisterDD]

Impressive. I like it a lot.
It will be cool to have ultrasmall computer case with just monitor some day
Maybe then we will be finally in position to bring whole PC with us, just as laptop or some smartphone.
But I guess that day will come. This is proof of that.

[freedomno1]

I bought a 60GB SSD few years ago, just wanted to see if it's really better than HDD, and it is. Small, quiet, fast, stays cool, consumes less electricity. The only downside is it was overpriced as hell, You could buy a whole laptop for the cost of 3 of those.

SSD is nice the problem for me is that it doesn't have much space compared to non SSD
60 GB vs 1 T is still quite the difference that and the cost difference

[pastet89]

Sandisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year.

"We see reaching the 4TB mark as really just the beginning and expect to continue doubling the capacity every year or two, far outpacing the growth for traditional HDDs," Manuel Martull, SanDisk's product & solutions marketing director, stated in an email reply to Computerworld.


http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9248070/SanDisk_announces_4TB_SSD_hopes_for_8TB_next_year

SSD prices are still too high to abandon HDD.

+1
Furhtermore if you see how Linux is performing over HDD you would reconsider your statement.
My Debian + LXDE is runnig as fast as ***** and is beating all Windows SSDs.

I would not imagine why I would need SSD for it.

[DeathAndTaxes]

each Silicon atom has 14 atoms.

Nice one I deserved that.

[Snorek]

Sandisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year.

"We see reaching the 4TB mark as really just the beginning and expect to continue doubling the capacity every year or two, far outpacing the growth for traditional HDDs," Manuel Martull, SanDisk's product & solutions marketing director, stated in an email reply to Computerworld.


http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9248070/SanDisk_announces_4TB_SSD_hopes_for_8TB_next_year

SSD prices are still too high to abandon HDD.

+1
Furhtermore if you see how Linux is performing over HDD you would reconsider your statement.
My Debian + LXDE is runnig as fast as ***** and is beating all Windows SSDs.

I would not imagine why I would need SSD for it.

But most of the games on computers run on Windows, so for an average user the SSD is the future. As for the price, every new technology with time gets less expensive 

[BitOnyx]

I guess there are still many different alternatives right now out there. It shouldn't be actual problem when we look on it from this point of view.

When it comes to HDD, well this day had to come sooner or later. Maybe now they are going to implement them into our fridges.

[alope]

SSD price expensive is now. I still use the hard disk

[pekv2]

SSD prices are still too high to abandon HDD.

Of course hard drive companies aren't stupid, their strongest area is high capacity low performance applications (backups, nearline storage, archiving, etc) so HDD are going to get much bigger to stay competitive.   So it is win-win all around.  Still if I was WD I would be looking to buy a flash company.

And this is where UEFI & GPT partition tables come into place .

i have a 128 GB ssd drive that i bought for $65 a year ago.. i don't think it has been worth it so far. i usually have anywhere between 45 to 53GB free, but i often end up deleting stuff or storing on my portable HDD.

Look into hyperduo http://www.marvell.com/storage/system-solutions/sata-controllers/hyperduo/

&

Intel® Smart Response Technology
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/smart-response-technology.html

HDD cannot improve much further but ssd can.

SSD is at 8 electrons per bit so only three more very very difficult doublings.  They are working on some other tricks.

HDD has HAMR, SMR, HAMR+SMR, pattern media, other tricks.

About the same horizons on both.

Other tricks, check out https://www.samsung.com/ch/business-images/resource/white-paper/2014/01/Whitepaper-Samsung_SSD_Rapid_Mode-0.pdf

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looks of it, Death and taxes & Burtw knows their shit.    
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Publicity at best, hdd isn't going any where. SSD's has only so much life to live vs a hdd, not including hardware failures for both.

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[dogechode]

Once you go SSD you never go back. I built a computer with an SSD about 2 years ago and I haven't bought a single HDD since. I uninstall games and not using and stuff like that to deal with having a little less storage, and add SSDs when the space problem becomes critical. I have two workstations both with all SSDs. You really can't even begin to compare the difference and once you get used to it... it'd be like trying to go back to dialup if I went back to HDDs lol.

[pekv2]

Once you go SSD you never go back. I built a computer with an SSD about 2 years ago and I haven't bought a single HDD since. I uninstall games and not using and stuff like that to deal with having a little less storage, and add SSDs when the space problem becomes critical. I have two workstations both with all SSDs. You really can't even begin to compare the difference and once you get used to it... it'd be like trying to go back to dialup if I went back to HDDs lol.

I've got a samsung 840pro 128gb for OS, vertex260gb for cryptocurrency blocks, both fast as hell and a nice WD Re WD1003FBYZ 1TB hdd for storage fast as hell too.

atm i am reinstalling an os for a friend on a laptop, gwd the 5400 rpm hdd gots me drove nuts.

ripped vista off, installing win732bitsp1 then updates..

then installing cashier driver so it can speak with the bars cash register then set all that shit up.

talk bout fun.

[dogechode]

I have had really good luck with the Crucial M4 SSDs (128 and 256gb different releases and models,) and I am trying out a Kingston 60gb SSD for my most recent mining rig.

[kololo]

4TB SSD?  It's too expensive now ,maybe I shuould wait for some year.

[dogechode]

4TB SSD?  It's too expensive now ,maybe I shuould wait for some year.

Why do you need that much storage though? Honestly I have never needed more than a few hundred gigs. You guys are serious packrats lmao.

[pekv2]

4TB SSD?  It's too expensive now ,maybe I shuould wait for some year.

Why do you need that much storage though? Honestly I have never needed more than a few hundred gigs. You guys are serious packrats lmao.

Taking video or even screen recording games takes a ton of space. Also don't forget video editing takes a lot of space. Also, if you get 4 4TB SSD's and raid them into raid10, you got some major speed/space/reliability of your files just in case a ssd dies. If I calculate this correctly 4 4TB ssd's in raid 1+0 you only get 8 TB of actual usable space.

Edit:
Wide screen pics or tifs can get upto 500MB in size or larger.

[guybrushthreepwood]

4TB SSD?  It's too expensive now ,maybe I shuould wait for some year.

Why do you need that much storage though? Honestly I have never needed more than a few hundred gigs. You guys are serious packrats lmao.

Taking video or even screen recording games takes a ton of space. Also don't forget video editing takes a lot of space. Also, if you get 4 4TB SSD's and raid them into raid10, you got some major speed/space/reliability of your files just in case a ssd dies. If I calculate this correctly 4 4TB ssd's in raid 1+0 you only get 8 TB of actual usable space.

Exactly. Anyone who works with video editing will need this sort of space. I guess if you even just download a lot of high quality movies you'll soon fill up 4TB as well.

[Snorek]

I guess if you even just download a lot of high quality movies you'll soon fill up 4TB as well.

If you only watch high quality movies you don't need SSD. A normal HDD is good enough for that