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January 27, 2015, 01:35:17 PM
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It is rather naive to think so, the same kind of nativity is applied to politics where people actually believe that democracy is "fair" because every person has a choice. Gavin could replace the bitcoin-qt client at bitcoin.org overnight and let the stupid masses that don't know squat empower his flawed decision.

So to you "overnight" is a long drawn out process of debate,tests, and consensus building lasting at least 6 months or longer? \

Interesting....

Not if all parties in set debates are controlled by the USG.

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January 27, 2015, 01:51:11 PM
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Not if all parties in set debates are controlled by the USG.

Sybil attacks applied to debates.

All the developers and Bitcoin full nodes are controlled by the USG? Do you seriously believe this?

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January 27, 2015, 01:52:41 PM
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Not if all parties in set debates are controlled by the USG.

Sybil attacks applied to debates.

All the developers and Bitcoin full nodes are controlled by the USG? Do you seriously believe this?

All developers don't need to be controlled, just Gavin, the rest who cannot formulate their own opinion will follow like a flock of sheep.








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January 27, 2015, 01:57:57 PM
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All developers don't need to be controlled, just Gavin, the rest who cannot formulate their own opinion will follow like a flock of sheep.

Incorrect. Gavin has to have consensus with the other developers first. But for the sake of argument lets say you are right and there is a secret government cabal of devs working for the man at the bohemian grove. What the devs do doesn't mean anything unless they can convince all full nodes to upgrade.

So are you suggesting all full nodes are controlled by the USG?

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January 27, 2015, 02:00:10 PM
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All developers don't need to be controlled, just Gavin, the rest who cannot formulate their own opinion will follow like a flock of sheep.

Incorrect. Gavin has to have consensus with the other developers first. But for the sake of argument lets say you are right and there is a secret government cabal of devs working for the man at the bohemian grove. What the devs do doesn't mean anything unless they can convince all full nodes to upgrade.

So are you suggesting all full nodes are controlled by the USG?

Most are influenced by the USG, only a small portion are capable of formulating and truly understanding ideas by analysing them carefully I have no doubt at the back of my mind that we will end up overpowered.








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January 27, 2015, 02:07:54 PM
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Most are influenced by the USG, only a small portion are capable of formulating and truly understanding ideas by analysing them carefully I have no doubt at the back of my mind that we will end up overpowered.
Now you are back-peddling to say "influenced" instead of "controlled"?
Understood, you are convinced of defeat is inevitable . No point in discussing matters further with you than.

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January 27, 2015, 02:12:54 PM
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Most are influenced by the USG, only a small portion are capable of formulating and truly understanding ideas by analysing them carefully I have no doubt at the back of my mind that we will end up overpowered.
Now you are back-peddling to say "influenced" instead of "controlled"?
Understood, you are convinced of defeat is inevitable . No point in discussing matters further with you than.

Most of the bullshit foundation are controlled, controlled not as in every person is worth 1 and they control the most, controlled as in Gavin is worth 35, someone else is worth 0.1 perhaps and so on.

Most of the nodes are influenced however, controlled would imply under direct control as-in SSH and registered with the chief executive of the CIAs Paypal. Defeat is inevitable for the sheep, us wolves will get richer no matter what, it's the stupid masses getting swindled of what isn't their to begin with.








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January 27, 2015, 02:18:37 PM
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Most are influenced by the USG, only a small portion are capable of formulating and truly understanding ideas by analysing them carefully I have no doubt at the back of my mind that we will end up overpowered.
Now you are back-peddling to say "influenced" instead of "controlled"?
Understood, you are convinced of defeat is inevitable . No point in discussing matters further with you than.

Most of the bullshit foundation are controlled, controlled not as in every person is worth 1 and they control the most, controlled as in Gavin is worth 35, someone else is worth 0.1 perhaps and so on.

Most of the nodes are influenced however, controlled would imply under direct control as-in SSH and registered with the chief executive of the CIAs Paypal. Defeat is inevitable for the sheep, us wolves will get richer no matter what, it's the stupid masses getting swindled of what isn't their to begin with.

Tinfoil body suit wearer not affected.


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January 27, 2015, 02:43:17 PM
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Most are influenced by the USG, only a small portion are capable of formulating and truly understanding ideas by analysing them carefully I have no doubt at the back of my mind that we will end up overpowered.
Now you are back-peddling to say "influenced" instead of "controlled"?
Understood, you are convinced of defeat is inevitable . No point in discussing matters further with you than.

Most of the bullshit foundation are controlled, controlled not as in every person is worth 1 and they control the most, controlled as in Gavin is worth 35, someone else is worth 0.1 perhaps and so on.

Most of the nodes are influenced however, controlled would imply under direct control as-in SSH and registered with the chief executive of the CIAs Paypal. Defeat is inevitable for the sheep, us wolves will get richer no matter what, it's the stupid masses getting swindled of what isn't their to begin with.

Tinfoil body suit wearer not affected.



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January 27, 2015, 04:10:20 PM
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“Mark my words”, as everyone here likes to say.

An economy based on endless growth is unsustainable.
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Why do some many thread turn into arguments where people are beating the shit out of eachother, glad i cant be bothered with all that anyone.
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January 27, 2015, 05:52:31 PM
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This is ridiculous and what a way to kill the price and use other than using it as a tool of theft. Hey everybody lets use Bitcoin to steal government funds so we can get Bitcoin looked down upon by everyone and have tons of regulations and bans on it! This will be great and there will be no way to exchange it for local currency except in person which would be super sketch!

How about we keep Bitcoin the way it is and you get over your crazy idea to kill Bitcoin.
I think it's safe to say OP watches too many movies, given his post content and forum avatar.
One doesnt simply "crack into the FBI"..

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January 27, 2015, 06:42:25 PM
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It sounds like you're describing Primecoin or at least what Primecoin shows is possible.

correct, but expanded to not just prime numbers but any number that is valuable to some party!
I like this idea!!! lol
I'm sure you can write this in 2 lines of code when ethereum comes out Cheesy

madmadmax, you and I think a like. I'm also a conspiracy FACTist and I can only image what the 3 letter gov agencies are doing to infiltrate and control btc.

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January 28, 2015, 05:33:56 AM
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This is ridiculous and what a way to kill the price and use other than using it as a tool of theft. Hey everybody lets use Bitcoin to steal government funds so we can get Bitcoin looked down upon by everyone and have tons of regulations and bans on it! This will be great and there will be no way to exchange it for local currency except in person which would be super sketch!

How about we keep Bitcoin the way it is and you get over your crazy idea to kill Bitcoin.
I think it's safe to say OP watches too many movies, given his post content and forum avatar.
One doesnt simply "crack into the FBI"..

Like they say don't kid around stupid people because they might think they are in good company.








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January 28, 2015, 06:03:05 AM
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Tadaa, two years later we are at that precise point, as predicted by me.

Yes we could remain loyal to the 50%< (or more precisely 100%) of the hashing power which what everyone who has half a brain would do but Gavin is Gavin.

What did you predict?  Sorry, I just read this whole thread again, and I must've missed it.

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January 28, 2015, 09:22:17 AM
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Tadaa, two years later we are at that precise point, as predicted by me.

Yes we could remain loyal to the 50%< (or more precisely 100%) of the hashing power which what everyone who has half a brain would do but Gavin is Gavin.

What did you predict?  Sorry, I just read this whole thread again, and I must've missed it.
He "predicted" that Gavin will propose a hard fork. Big deal.

His exact words were
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Gavin could replace the bitcoin-qt client at bitcoin.org overnight and let the stupid masses that don't know squat empower his flawed decision.
which doesn't have anything to do, with what is happening right now.

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