Bitcoin Forum
May 10, 2024, 10:39:35 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: 1 2 [All]
  Print  
Author Topic: Volume at Huobi dropping like a stone  (Read 2959 times)
r34tr783tr78 (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 481
Merit: 268


View Profile
May 10, 2014, 11:15:31 AM
 #1

http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/volume/30d?c=e&t=a&volume_unit=btc

You can remove the oher exchanges by clicking on it.

Just stating a fact that shows the present environment at China, where the government even forced the press to censur news about the current chinese bitcoin conference: http://www.coindesk.com/china-orders-media-silence-on-global-bitcoin-summit/

Sarcasm mode started:

Of course, this has to be good news or FUD

Sarcasm mode ended

"If you don't want people to know you're a scumbag then don't be a scumbag." -- margaritahuyan
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
TERA
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 728
Merit: 500



View Profile
May 10, 2014, 11:22:01 AM
 #2

Trading fee implementation and reduction of leverages could lower volume.

Although it doesn't appear much lower than normal now because we are still in the upper band of the downtrend where low volume is typically done. If/when we fall into the lower band, there should be more volume.
gizmoh
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1428
Merit: 1000



View Profile
May 10, 2014, 11:25:27 AM
 #3

No more leverage trading.

How Ripple Rips you: "The founders of Ripple Labs created 100 billion XRP at Ripple's inception. No more can be created according to the rules of the Ripple protocol. Of the 100 billion created, 20 billion XRP were retained by the creators, seeders, venture capital companies and other founders. The remaining 80 billion were given to Ripple Labs. Ripple Labs intends to distribute and sell 55 of that 80 billion XRP to users and strategic partners. Ripple Labs also had a giveaway of under 200 million XRP (0.002% of all XRP) via World Community Grid that was later discontinued.[29] Ripple Labs will retain the remaining 25 billion"
Ultros
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 471
Merit: 250



View Profile
May 10, 2014, 11:26:33 AM
 #4

So we can stop watching chinese markets? Seems too good to be true.
TERA
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 728
Merit: 500



View Profile
May 10, 2014, 11:27:54 AM
 #5

So we can stop watching chinese markets? Seems too good to be true.
Nah. Even at current levels, Huobi volume is still 5x higher than Stamp volume.
r34tr783tr78 (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 481
Merit: 268


View Profile
May 10, 2014, 11:30:06 AM
 #6

The decision about the flat rate fee and on leverage has only a few days. I think it's not implement yet.
Any way, this drop started more than a month ago, in the beginning of March:
http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/volume/6m?c=e&t=a&volume_unit=btc



ElectricMucus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1666
Merit: 1057


Marketing manager - GO MP


View Profile WWW
May 10, 2014, 11:35:11 AM
 #7

Are Chinese exchanges still a thing?





Isn't the deadline like ...today?
TERA
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 728
Merit: 500



View Profile
May 10, 2014, 11:37:31 AM
 #8

Try to think of it like this pattern:



Though I do agree that it is going down a little overall.
Bitcoin_is_here_to_stay
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 336
Merit: 100



View Profile
May 10, 2014, 02:56:04 PM
 #9

Try to think of it like this pattern:



Though I do agree that it is going down a little overall.

nice pic
Tzupy
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2128
Merit: 1074



View Profile
May 10, 2014, 03:38:57 PM
 #10

Maybe it's time for volume at Bitstamp to pick up. Since Chinese players are unlikely to transfer much fiat
to Bitstamp, but transferring lots of coins should be easy, bears may rejoice soon.

Sometimes, if it looks too bullish, it's actually bearish
Blue
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 270
Merit: 250


View Profile
May 10, 2014, 04:11:44 PM
 #11

yeeha !
fattypig
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 224
Merit: 100



View Profile WWW
May 10, 2014, 04:12:36 PM
 #12

Are Chinese exchanges still a thing?





Isn't the deadline like ...today?

Yup, deadline today. So lets just assume huobi and other chinese exchange site would be offline tomorrow onwards.

adamstgBit
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037


Trusted Bitcoiner


View Profile WWW
May 10, 2014, 04:17:44 PM
 #13

Are Chinese exchanges still a thing?





Isn't the deadline like ...today?

Yup, deadline today. So lets just assume huobi and other chinese exchange site would be offline tomorrow onwards.

i think MAYBE monday

DustyRah
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 530
Merit: 250


View Profile
May 10, 2014, 09:01:24 PM
 #14

I hope the Chinese commies are out as soon as possible so the rest of the world can get it on with BTC~
blatchcorn
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 952
Merit: 281


View Profile
May 10, 2014, 10:16:43 PM
 #15

Bullish sign
Sindelar1938
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 500


View Profile
May 11, 2014, 03:04:57 AM
 #16

I think it's a bearish signal with some selling to come next week

Elwar
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386


Viva Ut Vivas


View Profile WWW
May 11, 2014, 04:35:28 AM
 #17

Huobi is a Chinese exchange.

China banned bitcoins months ago.

First seastead company actually selling sea homes: Ocean Builders https://ocean.builders  Of course we accept bitcoin.
ElectricMucus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1666
Merit: 1057


Marketing manager - GO MP


View Profile WWW
May 11, 2014, 07:03:30 AM
 #18

Huobi is a Chinese exchange.

China banned bitcoins months ago.


Stupid, how the chumps here are the first to call it a ban, while all that China did was to rule banks shouldn't use it. Don't you guys get that is not the same thing?
T.Stuart
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 644
Merit: 500


One Token to Move Anything Anywhere


View Profile
May 11, 2014, 07:17:36 AM
 #19

Huobi is a Chinese exchange.

China banned bitcoins months ago.


Stupid, how the chumps here are the first to call it a ban, while all that China did was to rule banks shouldn't use it. Don't you guys get that is not the same thing?

They've banned the banks from using it. They've banned journalists from reporting it. They pour scorn on Bitcoin users (maybe they've got that partially right  Roll Eyes). The line you take is beginning to sound pedantic.

                                                                               
███████████████▄▄▄                     ▄█▄     ▀█████▄                     ▄█████▀
████████████████████▄                ▄█████▄     ▀█████▄                 ▄█████▀
              ▀▀█████▄             ▄█████████▄     ▀█████▄             ▄█████▀
                 █████▌          ▄█████▀ ▀█████▄     ▀█████▄         ▄█████▀
                 ▐█████        ▄█████▀     ▀█████▄     ▀█████▄     ▄█████▀
                 █████▌      ▄█████▀         ▀█████▄     ▀█████▄ ▄█████▀
              ▄▄█████▀     ▄█████▀     ▄█▄     ▀█████▄     ▀█████████▀
████████████████████▀    ▄█████▀     ▄█████▄     ▀█████▄     ▀█████▀
███████████████▀▀▀     ▄█████▀     ▄█████████▄     ▀█████▄     ▀█▀
                                    ▀███████▀
                                      ▀███▀
                                        ▀
.
▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔
.◆ ◆ ◆ ONE TOKEN TO MOVE ANYTHING ANYWHERE ◆ ◆ ◆.
▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁
ElectricMucus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1666
Merit: 1057


Marketing manager - GO MP


View Profile WWW
May 11, 2014, 07:40:20 AM
 #20

Huobi is a Chinese exchange.

China banned bitcoins months ago.


Stupid, how the chumps here are the first to call it a ban, while all that China did was to rule banks shouldn't use it. Don't you guys get that is not the same thing?

They've banned the banks from using it. They've banned journalists from reporting it. They pour scorn on Bitcoin users (maybe they've got that partially right  Roll Eyes). The line you take is beginning to sound pedantic.

As I recall that's basically one event that shouldn't be reported on, and I'd say that's more international politics than anti-Bitcoin, I could be wrong, but then I don't really care.

Still, the bulk of mining hardware is manufactured in China, and if their gov were against Bitcoin they'd move against that. Or rule something akin to "Bitcoin could have a destabilizing influence on the economy and therefore is prohibited" - which they also didn't.
Torque
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3556
Merit: 5041



View Profile
May 11, 2014, 02:34:29 PM
Last edit: May 11, 2014, 03:53:19 PM by Torque
 #21

They've banned the banks from using it. They've banned journalists from reporting it. They pour scorn on Bitcoin users (maybe they've got that partially right  Roll Eyes). The line you take is beginning to sound pedantic.
OMG T. Stuart, has the bitcoin bull now turned permabear?

Still, the bulk of mining hardware is manufactured in China, and if their gov were against Bitcoin they'd move against that. Or rule something akin to "Bitcoin could have a destabilizing influence on the economy and therefore is prohibited" - which they also didn't.
...yet.  Right now, the bitcoin economy market cap is just too small for them to care.  When bitcoin adoption and thus the price grows orders of magnitude from here (and it will eventually), don't put it past the Chinese gov't to do something that grave and stupid.  Just like Russia, they will pull out all the stops they need to pull in order to try and regain control.  They'll probably start seriously caring with the market cap hits ~$50B USD.

The only reason they haven't completely banned bitcoin exchanges in their country is
a) they want to keep the final trump card in their back pocket, in order to keep the FUD going as long as possible (since it seems to be working for now), and
b) they don't want to look like draconian N. Korea to their people, and
c) because they know bitcoin can't be extinguished because it's decentralized and global.  So they'd look pretty stupid going to that extreme.  It would just push it into a black market, and continued growth would them make them lose face to their people.  But they still have plenty of other means of FUD at their disposal.

But ultimately it is a losing game for them, because bitcoin is global.  No one country can control it, not its adoption/growth, it's price, nothing.  It would be like the Chinese government trying to ban Linux usage on a global level, or Tor, or BitTorrent, or the entire internet globally.  Just not possible.  The more they try, the more stupid they look.

EDIT:  BTW, China exchange volume makes up only 7% of the world's bitcoin exchange volume.  ONLY 7%!!!
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/volumepie/
r34tr783tr78 (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 481
Merit: 268


View Profile
May 11, 2014, 05:40:29 PM
 #22

Bitcoincharts doesn't take in account Huobi: its numbers are wrong.
http://www.bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=24h

Torque
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3556
Merit: 5041



View Profile
May 11, 2014, 06:16:40 PM
 #23

Bitcoincharts doesn't take in account Huobi: its numbers are wrong.
http://www.bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=24h

Don't believe the faked volume.
T.Stuart
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 644
Merit: 500


One Token to Move Anything Anywhere


View Profile
May 11, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
 #24

They've banned the banks from using it. They've banned journalists from reporting it. They pour scorn on Bitcoin users (maybe they've got that partially right  Roll Eyes). The line you take is beginning to sound pedantic.

OMG T. Stuart, has the bitcoin bull now turned permabear?


 Cheesy He he! Not at all. Just trying to put things in black and white - better say black in my opinion. In this way we can get over China quicker. Also it's almost true: imagine if the Chinese gov. banned banks from offering accounts to businesses dealing in other types of property, goods, merchandise, etc. That would be heavy news indeed.

The only reason they haven't completely banned bitcoin exchanges in their country is
a) they want to keep the final trump card in their back pocket, in order to keep the FUD going as long as possible (since it seems to be working for now)

I still think they're moving too quickly if that's their game. If they really want to control the price down then they should have a longer perspective. The net effect of the current policy is that Bitcoin is being pumped with strong vaccine against future Chinese action!

                                                                               
███████████████▄▄▄                     ▄█▄     ▀█████▄                     ▄█████▀
████████████████████▄                ▄█████▄     ▀█████▄                 ▄█████▀
              ▀▀█████▄             ▄█████████▄     ▀█████▄             ▄█████▀
                 █████▌          ▄█████▀ ▀█████▄     ▀█████▄         ▄█████▀
                 ▐█████        ▄█████▀     ▀█████▄     ▀█████▄     ▄█████▀
                 █████▌      ▄█████▀         ▀█████▄     ▀█████▄ ▄█████▀
              ▄▄█████▀     ▄█████▀     ▄█▄     ▀█████▄     ▀█████████▀
████████████████████▀    ▄█████▀     ▄█████▄     ▀█████▄     ▀█████▀
███████████████▀▀▀     ▄█████▀     ▄█████████▄     ▀█████▄     ▀█▀
                                    ▀███████▀
                                      ▀███▀
                                        ▀
.
▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔
.◆ ◆ ◆ ONE TOKEN TO MOVE ANYTHING ANYWHERE ◆ ◆ ◆.
▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁
sporket
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 280
Merit: 250



View Profile
May 11, 2014, 10:27:13 PM
 #25

...
But ultimately it is a losing game for [China], because bitcoin is global.  No one country can control it, not its adoption/growth, it's price, nothing.

My cat can't influence any of those things, yet half the posts in this thread don't mention him by name.  China, OTOH...
frienemy
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 235
Merit: 100

I was promised da moon


View Profile
May 11, 2014, 10:38:07 PM
 #26

My cat can't influence any of those things

Buy a new cat when the old one doesn't work Wink

MCTRL_751 >   END OF LINE
knightcoin
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238
Merit: 100


Stand on the shoulders of giants


View Profile
May 11, 2014, 11:17:27 PM
 #27

My cat can't influence any of those things

Buy a new cat when the old one doesn't work Wink

yeah .. I heard about it ... fucking cat ... even after the "open" box we still not sure if the cat is dead or just sleeping ...


http://www.introversion.co.uk/
mit/x11 licence 18.x/16|o|3ffe ::71
r34tr783tr78 (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 481
Merit: 268


View Profile
May 13, 2014, 02:53:11 PM
 #28

The dropping in volume is accelerating on the last 3 days:
http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/volume/3d?c=e&t=a&volume_unit=btc

tupelo
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 99
Merit: 10


View Profile
May 13, 2014, 02:54:16 PM
 #29

that was about time imho
Pages: 1 2 [All]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!