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Question: do you believe that "the manipulator" exists ?
yes - 43 (58.9%)
no - 30 (41.1%)
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January 20, 2012, 10:12:23 AM
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If you do, why do you even express your opinions and reveal trading sentiment ?
You only make it easier for "the manipulator" to manipulate,

also, polls with price (trends) guessing, those are gold mines

why not try to say nothing for a full week,
just for fun, to see what happens.
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January 20, 2012, 10:18:08 AM
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i was thinkin the same thing.  the "manipulator(s)" could just as well have a subscription to bitcoinbullbear  Huh
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January 20, 2012, 11:23:59 AM
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Wow poll is like asking if there's a God, and answers pretty much sum it up the same way...no one has any idea.
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January 20, 2012, 11:35:05 AM
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If there wasn't a whale in the game before this week, there's bound to be several now.

If all it takes is $200K or so to make the price swings we have seen in the past few days, it could possibly be best to stand back and let them fight it out. All this tells me that until further notice bitcoin is strictly a lunch money grade amusement comparable to liar's poker played with one dollar bills.

Whether all those inclined to hold onto bitcoins can get flat by shorting an equal amount without drawing the attentions of this pod of killer whales, I don't know.

One thing is certain, the biggest show in Nakamototown right now is at the Bitcoinica casino, the rest of the bitcoin world is a bunch of hot dog stands surrounding it.

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January 20, 2012, 11:51:33 AM
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There is at least one person who sometimes tries to manipulate people/bots using large orders that move around suddenly.

All the other hype about some magical mastermind are nonsense. It's probably either an early adopter or someone who moved more money into the market than others. That said, I can't answer the question, because I don't know what signifies "the manipulator". On every market, someone tries to manipulate at some point, so wouldn't the answer always be "yes"?
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January 20, 2012, 12:54:56 PM
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There is at least one person who sometimes tries to manipulate people/bots using large orders that move around suddenly.

All the other hype about some magical mastermind are nonsense.

True, this kind of operation is right out of the Penny Stock Scams 101 course, it's not rocket science. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king  Wink

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January 20, 2012, 01:46:33 PM
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If you do, why do you even express your opinions and reveal trading sentiment ?
You only make it easier for "the manipulator" to manipulate,

also, polls with price (trends) guessing, those are gold mines

why not try to say nothing for a full week,
just for fun, to see what happens.
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This thread with no new messages for a whole week..... that would be something...

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January 20, 2012, 01:50:17 PM
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there's one big manipulator and a host of smaller ones.  The Great Manipulator is so obvious -- he instantly moved the ask side from ~20k to ~80k BTC and the bid side suffered an opposite fate.

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January 20, 2012, 02:53:16 PM
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everyone is manipulator

there are some bigger fish though and probably 1-2 whales
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January 20, 2012, 03:43:24 PM
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If you do, why do you even express your opinions and reveal trading sentiment ?
You only make it easier for "the manipulator" to manipulate,

also, polls with price (trends) guessing, those are gold mines

why not try to say nothing for a full week,
just for fun, to see what happens.
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if we stop speculating, no one will be making anything

although i agree, people shouldn't disclose their positions for their own sake
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January 20, 2012, 04:47:48 PM
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if a manipulator wants to waste his time trying to fleece me of my 30 odd unleveraged coins based on my idle prattle on a very entertaining forum...well, more power to him

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
Censorship of e-gold was easy. Censorship of Bitcoin will be… entertaining.
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