klokan
|
|
May 17, 2014, 04:34:11 PM |
|
The most important security for normal person is keeping the device offline. You can have ten diffenent locks on your door, does that make you feeling safer? If you can prove that the expensive Trezor has higher industry standard than popular phones, then you win. Exactly! You can have 10 locks on a device that has the ability to connect and it eventually will connect. Bither lock can't protect you. Only the device that can't leak keys by design can keep private keys inside. You are right that people trust their phones with some personal data. The security of a phone is good enough to store your FB password, but I won't trust it with my live savings. How does your app get in the phone if the phone never connects to anything? How do you update your app? If the phone was infected before your app was installed, how can you be sure that it is not communicating? Security expert can verify simple single purpose communication protocol of Trezor and its code base. No single person can verify Anroid.
|
|
|
|
mameise
|
|
May 17, 2014, 04:50:56 PM |
|
Basic problem is that a phone can die from one second to the next. I had it. Woke up with phone alarm. Went to bus station and wanted to look what time it is. No reaction at all. Mainboard died and i had to wait 2 weeks to get the phone with text: we where not able to restore the data. It was a Note 2 from Samsung. So i would never trust a phone! I had some bitcoins in my phonewallet but i had a complete backup of everything. So no loss.
|
|
|
|
DeathAndTaxes
Donator
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1079
Gerald Davis
|
|
May 17, 2014, 10:43:35 PM |
|
Basic problem is that a phone can die from one second to the next. I had it. Woke up with phone alarm. Went to bus station and wanted to look what time it is. No reaction at all. Mainboard died and i had to wait 2 weeks to get the phone with text: we where not able to restore the data. It was a Note 2 from Samsung. So i would never trust a phone! I had some bitcoins in my phonewallet but i had a complete backup of everything. So no loss.
All electronics can die without warning. You should always have backup/seed for any device.
|
|
|
|
Bibop
|
|
May 18, 2014, 12:37:45 AM |
|
Who use second phone??
dont see any differences between this app or any other wallet app..
|
|
|
|
bithernet (OP)
|
|
May 18, 2014, 02:04:22 AM Last edit: May 18, 2014, 02:35:54 AM by bithernet |
|
This seems interesting. I'll defenetly give this a try myself after the github release.
Thanks for your support. We are working hard on the new version, and we will release the source ASAP.
|
http://Bither.netBither - a simple and secure Bitcoin wallet! 1BsTwoMaX3aYx9Nc8GdgHZzzAGmG669bC3
|
|
|
bithernet (OP)
|
|
May 18, 2014, 02:16:43 AM |
|
Basic problem is that a phone can die from one second to the next. I had it. Woke up with phone alarm. Went to bus station and wanted to look what time it is. No reaction at all. Mainboard died and i had to wait 2 weeks to get the phone with text: we where not able to restore the data. It was a Note 2 from Samsung. So i would never trust a phone! I had some bitcoins in my phonewallet but i had a complete backup of everything. So no loss.
Bither Cold has automatically backup strategies, and you can easily backup your cold private keys on as many SD Cards as you want. Also Bither Cold Wallet is easy to clone between your backup phones. We will also provide improved functions for backup and recovery in the future version. Thank you.
|
http://Bither.netBither - a simple and secure Bitcoin wallet! 1BsTwoMaX3aYx9Nc8GdgHZzzAGmG669bC3
|
|
|
songchenwen
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
|
|
May 18, 2014, 02:24:54 AM |
|
In your opinion, a phone produced by Google, Apple, Samsung, LG, Moto is fail/brick/die/break? Then why billions of people using their sollutions every day? The benefits of using a phone as a hardware wallet are: 1. Industry Standard; 2. Cheap (some android phones are even lower than $30); 3. Great user experience; Thanks for your advice, and we will work hard to help people saving and using bitcoins easier and cheaper. They will eventually. Most phone start to wear down after 1 year and a lot of phones stop working after 2-3 years. Also you skipped my security question, please answer it. For 5 years has my Moto Milestone been working properly so far.
|
|
|
|
bithernet (OP)
|
|
May 18, 2014, 02:31:29 AM |
|
Who use second phone??
dont see any differences between this app or any other wallet app..
You can try our product to see the difference, thanks,
|
http://Bither.netBither - a simple and secure Bitcoin wallet! 1BsTwoMaX3aYx9Nc8GdgHZzzAGmG669bC3
|
|
|
bithernet (OP)
|
|
May 18, 2014, 02:43:28 AM |
|
Basic problem is that a phone can die from one second to the next. I had it. Woke up with phone alarm. Went to bus station and wanted to look what time it is. No reaction at all. Mainboard died and i had to wait 2 weeks to get the phone with text: we where not able to restore the data. It was a Note 2 from Samsung. So i would never trust a phone! I had some bitcoins in my phonewallet but i had a complete backup of everything. So no loss.
All electronics can die without warning. You should always have backup/seed for any device. You are right. Backup is very important. Currently Bither Cold provides automatically backup strategies, and we will improve this function in the future version. Thanks for your advice, it's very helpful.
|
http://Bither.netBither - a simple and secure Bitcoin wallet! 1BsTwoMaX3aYx9Nc8GdgHZzzAGmG669bC3
|
|
|
bithernet (OP)
|
|
May 19, 2014, 03:58:25 AM Last edit: June 20, 2014, 07:00:25 AM by bithernet |
|
Bither v0.0.5 released on Google Play. 1. New Exchange UI. 2. Low Transaction Fee.
|
http://Bither.netBither - a simple and secure Bitcoin wallet! 1BsTwoMaX3aYx9Nc8GdgHZzzAGmG669bC3
|
|
|
devthedev
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1004
|
|
May 19, 2014, 04:10:30 AM |
|
Wow! This update's pretty slick! Now for open source? Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #Lqp4tW7TLBK0qCaD
|
|
|
|
bithernet (OP)
|
|
May 19, 2014, 04:24:47 AM |
|
Wow! This update's pretty slick! Now for open source? Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #Lqp4tW7TLBK0qCaDYes, today,
|
http://Bither.netBither - a simple and secure Bitcoin wallet! 1BsTwoMaX3aYx9Nc8GdgHZzzAGmG669bC3
|
|
|
bithernet (OP)
|
|
May 20, 2014, 06:13:01 AM Last edit: June 20, 2014, 07:01:01 AM by bithernet |
|
|
http://Bither.netBither - a simple and secure Bitcoin wallet! 1BsTwoMaX3aYx9Nc8GdgHZzzAGmG669bC3
|
|
|
jbrnt
|
|
May 21, 2014, 03:12:01 AM |
|
I really like your implementation of hot and cold mode. Will try when I clean up my old phone.
My primary worry is whether it contains malicious code, and secondly whether is has major bugs. I do not have the skills to verify the code and compile the apk myself, so I will only test on a clean phone and test with small change. I do appreciate your work and thanks for taking time to develop an open source android wallet.
|
|
|
|
songchenwen
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
|
|
May 21, 2014, 05:03:18 AM |
|
I really like your implementation of hot and cold mode. Will try when I clean up my old phone.
My primary worry is whether it contains malicious code, and secondly whether is has major bugs. I do not have the skills to verify the code and compile the apk myself, so I will only test on a clean phone and test with small change. I do appreciate your work and thanks for taking time to develop an open source android wallet.
As for cold mode, the only thing you should worry about is the private key generating part. If it's really an offline randomly generated private key and you never connect your phone to the internet, your private key would be completely safe. Bither as an open source project, more and more people will contribute to it. Major bugs will be found and fixed soon if they exist. However they will never put your private keys on cold phone in danger, because the private keys are separated from the outer environment physically.
|
|
|
|
bithernet (OP)
|
|
May 21, 2014, 10:09:06 AM |
|
I really like your implementation of hot and cold mode. Will try when I clean up my old phone.
My primary worry is whether it contains malicious code, and secondly whether is has major bugs. I do not have the skills to verify the code and compile the apk myself, so I will only test on a clean phone and test with small change. I do appreciate your work and thanks for taking time to develop an open source android wallet.
Thanks for your support. We will work hard to help people using and saving bitcoins easier and safer,
|
http://Bither.netBither - a simple and secure Bitcoin wallet! 1BsTwoMaX3aYx9Nc8GdgHZzzAGmG669bC3
|
|
|
bitcool
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1441
Merit: 1000
Live and enjoy experiments
|
|
May 21, 2014, 08:47:13 PM |
|
Now the source code is open, this will definitely help your team getting more trust from users. Just curious, what's the story behind the name "bither"? It always reminds me of "bitcher" or "birther", which are not very good for your brand image
|
|
|
|
bithernet (OP)
|
|
May 22, 2014, 03:17:37 AM |
|
Now the source code is open, this will definitely help your team getting more trust from users. Just curious, what's the story behind the name "bither"? It always reminds me of "bitcher" or "birther", which are not very good for your brand image Our website is Bither.net, it comes from Bitcoin and Ethernet. We consider Bitcoin and Ethernet as the most important inventions that make the world better. To show our honor to them we combined the two words and named our project Bither. Thanks for your support,
|
http://Bither.netBither - a simple and secure Bitcoin wallet! 1BsTwoMaX3aYx9Nc8GdgHZzzAGmG669bC3
|
|
|
bitcool
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1441
Merit: 1000
Live and enjoy experiments
|
|
May 22, 2014, 04:13:52 AM |
|
I see, now I know why its called 比太 in Chinese. Uhha.
|
|
|
|
bitcool
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1441
Merit: 1000
Live and enjoy experiments
|
|
May 22, 2014, 04:20:54 AM |
|
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GFTI0SOThis $20 phone is a perfect match to your app. Only downside is the OS is a bit old --did you test it on android 2.3?
|
|
|
|
|