'Lift the skirt’ campaign urges French schoolboys to skip trousers for a day

[bryant.coleman]

so, what.. are the girls supposed to sexually harass the guys in skirts now? the thing is, though, is that the guys would welcome it.

lol.... we are talking about pre-teen schoolchildren here. They probably don't even understand all this BS. BTW... I thought that the French were a bit saner than the English and the Swedish... but seems that I was wrong.

[beetcoin]

man, if you are a french guy and your name is pronounced "renee" or "michelle," then you might as well be wearing a skirt 

[Lethn]

Nantes education authorities have launched a 'Lift the Skirt' campaign to support gender equality. Under the campaign, male students and teachers of 27 public schools are invited to wear skirts on May 16, sparking controversy in the western French city.

Stop being so paranoid and delusional, they aren't forcing them to do it, I'll only be concerned if the teachers start telling them they have to.

[bryant.coleman]

Stop being so paranoid and delusional, they aren't forcing them to do it, I'll only be concerned if the teachers start telling them they have to.

So if some teachers are asking the male students to cross-dress, can a student refuse? Definitely not without harming his educational career. This is what blackmail is all about.

[Lethn]

Stop being so paranoid and delusional, they aren't forcing them to do it, I'll only be concerned if the teachers start telling them they have to.

So if some teachers are asking the male students to cross-dress, can a student refuse? Definitely not without harming his educational career. This is what blackmail is all about.

Then that would be illegal because they're being threatened, I don't know why people like you are having such a hard time understanding this.

[TECSHARE]

Nantes education authorities have launched a 'Lift the Skirt' campaign to support gender equality. Under the campaign, male students and teachers of 27 public schools are invited to wear skirts on May 16, sparking controversy in the western French city.

Stop being so paranoid and delusional, they aren't forcing them to do it, I'll only be concerned if the teachers start telling them they have to.

You don't think the little boy's teachers are influential enough in a child's life to heavily influence or even manipulate them? Additionally it is almost always a seemingly innocuous event so that people such as yourself who would rather remain willfully ignorant of this global pattern of events have an easy no thinking out to the question. I challenge you to actually look at this kind of activity as a whole and how this stripping of little boy's male identity is harmful, and is NOT an isolated issue.

[Lethn]

The words "Fuck off" are usually appropriate if the kind of thing you're talking about is ever attempted and a school that would force people to do things one way or another is not worth attending.

[beetcoin]

i don't know how society is in france, so maybe they do expect their boys to dress up in skirts. then again, the people there don't really seem all that docile... seems like they like to protest. wasn't there a lot of protest against same-sex marriage over there?

[bryant.coleman]

wasn't there a lot of protest against same-sex marriage over there?

Most of the general public in France were against recognizing the same-sex marriage. But still the Socialist ultra-left wing president, François Hollande legalized it in 2013.

[TECSHARE]

I thought this was very applicable to this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTOFXLl7eh4

[Littleshop]

wasn't there a lot of protest against same-sex marriage over there?

Most of the general public in France were against recognizing the same-sex marriage. But still the Socialist ultra-left wing president, François Hollande legalized it in 2013.

Most polls show 60% support for gay marriage in France and rising.

[Nemo1024]

More on lifting the skirt...

French ‘Boys in Skirts’ campaign engenders conservative backlash
http://rt.com/news/159380-boys-skirts-france-protest/

The ‘Lift the Skirt’ campaign encouraging French schoolboys to show up to class in traditionally female attire has incited a tense counter protest from conservative groups.

“It is not a trivial matter,” the group’s president Ludovine de La Rochère said. “It is a form of cross-dressing and is therefore a denial of the boys’ sexual identity,” she continued. “It is disrespectful to masculinity and femininity.”

On the other hand:

Many students were angered that adults had attempted to promote their own agendas on the back of the student-led initiative.

"They have no right to come to our lycee and hijack our idea," Laurine, a student, told the French language news website 20 Minutes.

"You can protest against sexism without having the intention to promote gender theory. That has nothing to do with the original issue and aim of this demonstration," said another.

[bryant.coleman]

See this:



This is exactly why the Western Europe has become the laughing stock in front of the rest of the world.

[sana8410]

Reminds me when we were touring France. Seems there was some kind of demonstration every day in Paris. One day we were on the streets doing tourist stuff and we heard a loud noise coming down the street. It was several hundred elementary school students marching down the street singing ‘We Are The World’ -in French however. Apparently they teach them early how to demonstrate. Our mouths would really drop if the boys all wore skirts and ‘lifted them’.

[beetcoin]

what's next, telling boys to wears bras to school for breast cancer awareness? 

[BlackFurry]

so, what.. are the girls supposed to sexually harass the guys in skirts now? the thing is, though, is that the guys would welcome it.

lol.... we are talking about pre-teen schoolchildren here. They probably don't even understand all this BS. BTW... I thought that the French were a bit saner than the English and the Swedish... but seems that I was wrong.

Depends on the community. Here in my place they understand it pretty well at aged 6 - 7.

Looks like they are training there boys that in times of war they just lift their skirt. 

[bryant.coleman]

what's next, telling boys to wears bras to school for breast cancer awareness? 

Noticed the sarcastic tone... So you don't believe that something similar will never happen? If things are going as it is now, then such incidents will happen much before you expect.

[Nemo1024]

Talked to some female colleagues and friends, who are by no means feminist, about this. They reacted to the title of the campaign, "Lift the Skirt", perceiving it as derogatory, alluding to prostitution or frivolous/indecent conduct.

[freedomno1]

Well this is a bit strange but I imagine a madeline costume but that sort of borders French cosplaying
Anyways today is the 17th so updated article
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/16/boys-sexism-wear-skirts-france_n_5336181.html

What I imagined sort of
http://images.halloweencostumes.com/products/13275/1-1/deluxe-madeline-costume.jpg
Actual
http://rt.com/news/159380-boys-skirts-france-protest/
Video

[bryant.coleman]

Talked to some female colleagues and friends, who are by no means feminist, about this. They reacted to the title of the campaign, "Lift the Skirt", perceiving it as derogatory, alluding to prostitution or frivolous/indecent conduct.

Exactly. I seriously doubt whether this campaign has anything to do with protesting against the prevalent sexism. All I can see is that some of the perverted exhibitionists are making full use out of it.