'Lift the skirt’ campaign urges French schoolboys to skip trousers for a day

[Nemo1024]

'Lift the skirt’ campaign urges French schoolboys to skip trousers for a day
http://rt.com/news/159000-france-schoolboys-skirts-equality/

Nantes education authorities have launched a 'Lift the Skirt' campaign to support gender equality. Under the campaign, male students and teachers of 27 public schools are invited to wear skirts on May 16, sparking controversy in the western French city.

The idea to swap trousers for skirts in a stand against sexism originated from pupils themselves, and was sanctioned by the city's school authorities and therefore by the Ministry of Education, the Local reported.

That's all and fine, but "students themselves" are just children, who mirror what the society around them does...

“We’ll do any old nonsense in the name of equality,” Olivier Vial, president of the conservative UNI party, said. “This move is inspired by the Day of the Skirt, whose original aim was to allow women to express their femininity in environments where it was often difficult. But this is just denying feminine and masculine identity.”

Well, all women wear trousers now, and zeitgeist says that all men should wear skirts. Then we'll all be equal. But should we?

What mental illness is our society suffering from?

[hilariousandco]

It's just a skirt. Most kids will probably only wear them for a laugh. I know I would've. Doesn't mean everyone's going to become a cross-dresser. I think people really shouldn't care whether a guy wants to wear a skirt or women trousers and vice versa. It's really not that important.

[devthedev]

I agree with Olivier, "This is just denying feminine and masculine identity"

[hilariousandco]

I agree with Olivier, "This is just denying feminine and masculine identity"

Putting men in skirts doesn't make them females, nor does women wearing trousers make them masculine, nor does it encroach on mine or anyone elses masculinity. People should be free to identify however they want.

[TECSHARE]

It's just a skirt. Most kids will probably only wear them for a laugh. I know I would've. Doesn't mean everyone's going to become a cross-dresser. I think people really shouldn't care whether a guy wants to wear a skirt or women trousers and vice versa. It's really not that important.

Sure if it were an individual decision that would be correct. People should wear what they feel most comfortable in. The true problem isn't the cross dressing but the fact that this is YET ANOTHER attack on the male identity via children. Women are allowed their own spaces but men are ALWAYS expected to divert those spaces to women, and let them define OUR identity. Whats more sick is this is a psychological attack on children who have yet to make those choices in many cases, making their choices even more confusing and pressurized. I believe the disgust from this comes from the indoctrination of children stripping them of their identity rather the fact that they wear a dress for a day.

[hilariousandco]

I think you're taking this way too seriously. Nobody is forcing them to wear skirts, and like I said above, most who do wear them will probably do it just for a laugh. People get outraged at the most insignificant of things and think there's an agenda in everything.

[TECSHARE]

I think you're taking this way too seriously. Nobody is forcing them to wear skirts, and like I said above, most who do wear them will probably do it just for a laugh. People get outraged at the most insignificant of things and think there's an agenda in everything.

If you bother to look, this is not an isolated incident. Boys are subjected to this kind of psychological abuse all the time, all over the world, under the pretense of "gender equality" when the real goal is actually "gender supremacy". The first step to achieving this is destroying the boys before the become men, or completely redefining what they think his identity should be.

[hilariousandco]

I think you're taking this way too seriously. Nobody is forcing them to wear skirts, and like I said above, most who do wear them will probably do it just for a laugh. People get outraged at the most insignificant of things and think there's an agenda in everything.

If you bother to look, this is not an isolated incident. Boys are subjected to this kind of psychological abuse all the time, all over the world, under the pretense of "gender equality" when the real goal is actually "gender supremacy". The first step to achieving this is destroying the boys before the become men, or completely redefining what they think his identity should be.

This is essentially just the paranoid conspiracy theorist version of events in my opinion. I don't believe there's some grand conspiracy to emasculate your children. 

[TECSHARE]

I think you're taking this way too seriously. Nobody is forcing them to wear skirts, and like I said above, most who do wear them will probably do it just for a laugh. People get outraged at the most insignificant of things and think there's an agenda in everything.

If you bother to look, this is not an isolated incident. Boys are subjected to this kind of psychological abuse all the time, all over the world, under the pretense of "gender equality" when the real goal is actually "gender supremacy". The first step to achieving this is destroying the boys before the become men, or completely redefining what they think his identity should be.

This is essentially just the paranoid conspiracy theorist version of events in my opinion. I don't believe there's some grand conspiracy to emasculate your children.  

Exactly how much research have you done on the subject of sexism against males? You don't think an institution stripping boys of their male identity is harmful?

[hilariousandco]

I think you're taking this way too seriously. Nobody is forcing them to wear skirts, and like I said above, most who do wear them will probably do it just for a laugh. People get outraged at the most insignificant of things and think there's an agenda in everything.

If you bother to look, this is not an isolated incident. Boys are subjected to this kind of psychological abuse all the time, all over the world, under the pretense of "gender equality" when the real goal is actually "gender supremacy". The first step to achieving this is destroying the boys before the become men, or completely redefining what they think his identity should be.

This is essentially just the paranoid conspiracy theorist version of events in my opinion. I don't believe there's some grand conspiracy to emasculate your children. 

Exactly how much research have you done on the subject of sexism against males?

It's not something I need to spend much time 'researching', just like I don't need to research the Illuminati's involvement in the missing Malaysia plane to know it's bs. I'm not saying there's no sexism against men, but it pales in comparison to the other way around.

[ProfMac]

Not that many highlander men are effeminate.

Of course, there are misadventures.

And, some do wonder where the trousers are.

[TECSHARE]

It's not something I need to spend much time 'researching', just like I don't need to research the Illuminati's involvement in the missing Malaysia plane to know it's bs. I'm not saying there's no sexism against men, but it pales in comparison to the other way around.

Ok so sexism against males is now some how on par with Illuminati conspiracies? REALLY?

You confirm you haven't even bothered to look, so how would you know your assumptions are correct, because TV says so? Your whole conspiracy line is cheap and intellectually lazy. If you are so assured of your correctitude what is stopping you from looking? I might add if you don't bother to look you have no authority from which to make these conclusions.

Here is a simple little observational exercise for you. Next time you see what you define as sexism, flip it on its head and ask yourself if people would be equally offended if the female perpetrated the same act on a man. Then check to see if women do in fact do these things. I think you we be forced to reevaluate your own biases against men and women.

[hilariousandco]

It's not something I need to spend much time 'researching', just like I don't need to research the Illuminati's involvement in the missing Malaysia plane to know it's bs. I'm not saying there's no sexism against men, but it pales in comparison to the other way around.

Ok so sexism against males is now some how on par with Illuminati conspiracies? REALLY?

You confirm you haven't even bothered to look, so how would you know your assumptions are correct, because TV says so? Your whole conspiracy line is cheap and intellectually lazy. If you so assured of your correctitude what is stopping you from looking? I might add if you don't bother to look you have no authority from which to make these conclusions.

How much 'research' do I need to do exactly? And I've looked, but it's not something I need to spend extensive time studying enough to write a thesis on, but I'll gladly take a look at any links you can show which back up your theory. And I don't think the comparison I made is 'cheap and intellectually lazy' at all, because I just think it's a crazy conspiracy. That's my opinion but feel free to link to to evidence of your thoughts towards this and I'll give it a read.

[TECSHARE]

It's not something I need to spend much time 'researching', just like I don't need to research the Illuminati's involvement in the missing Malaysia plane to know it's bs. I'm not saying there's no sexism against men, but it pales in comparison to the other way around.

Ok so sexism against males is now some how on par with Illuminati conspiracies? REALLY?

You confirm you haven't even bothered to look, so how would you know your assumptions are correct, because TV says so? Your whole conspiracy line is cheap and intellectually lazy. If you so assured of your correctitude what is stopping you from looking? I might add if you don't bother to look you have no authority from which to make these conclusions.

How much 'research' do I need to do exactly? And I've looked, but it's not something I need to spend extensive time studying enough to write a thesis on, but I'll gladly take a look at any links you can show which back up your theory. And I don't think the comparison I made is 'cheap and intellectually lazy' at all, because I just think it's a crazy conspiracy. That's my opinion but feel free to link to to evidence of your thoughts towards this and I'll give it a read.

Yes, because women never get together in little groups and discuss plans secretly among themselves....  

I would much rather you bother to read and do your own research. It is far too of a simple task for people to endlessly nitpick and deconstruct sources so they can convince themselves it is not reality. However I will pose some general examples. I challenge you to think critically while researching some of this instead of the standard confirmation of bias glossed over eye approach.

-Men get to disproportionately die in wars.
-Men are expected to do all of the REAL work.
-Male genital mutilation is institutionalized.
-Men get the most dangerous life threatening jobs.
-Men go to prison at about 10 times more often than woman.
-Men have little to no rights over their family and children.
-Men are falling behind in EVERY LEVEL of education.
-Men are legally obligated to provide for their children, and female child support deadbeats are rarely prosecuted.
-Men are excluded from all types of forums by policy or shame while the simple denial of a woman to a man oriented space is itself considered sexist.
-Men are more likely to be raped than women.
-Men had no legal recourse against women for rape until a few years ago because the legal definitions defined rape as penetration.
-Men have very few if any institutions elusively for males, the ones left are constantly under attack.
-Men commit suicide at 3 times the rate of women.

[dank]

And dank is the crazy one.  Righ

[Hazir]

It's not something I need to spend much time 'researching', just like I don't need to research the Illuminati's involvement in the missing Malaysia plane to know it's bs. I'm not saying there's no sexism against men, but it pales in comparison to the other way around.

Ok so sexism against males is now some how on par with Illuminati conspiracies? REALLY?

You confirm you haven't even bothered to look, so how would you know your assumptions are correct, because TV says so? Your whole conspiracy line is cheap and intellectually lazy. If you so assured of your correctitude what is stopping you from looking? I might add if you don't bother to look you have no authority from which to make these conclusions.

How much 'research' do I need to do exactly? And I've looked, but it's not something I need to spend extensive time studying enough to write a thesis on, but I'll gladly take a look at any links you can show which back up your theory. And I don't think the comparison I made is 'cheap and intellectually lazy' at all, because I just think it's a crazy conspiracy. That's my opinion but feel free to link to to evidence of your thoughts towards this and I'll give it a read.

Yes, because women never get together in little groups and discuss plans secretly among themselves.... 

I would much rather you bother to read and do your own research. It is far too of a simple task for people to endlessly nitpick and deconstruct sources so they can convince themselves it is not reality. However I will pose some general examples. I challenge you to think critically while researching some of this instead of the standard confirmation of bias glossed over eye approach.

-Men get to disproportionately die in wars.
-Men are expected to do all of the REAL work.
-Male genital mutilation is institutionalized.
-Men get the most dangerous life threatening jobs.
-Men go to prison at about 10 times more often than woman.
-Men have little to no rights over their family and children.
-Men are falling behind in EVERY LEVEL of education.
-Men are legally obligated to provide for their children, and female child support deadbeats are rarely prosecuted.
-Men are excluded from all types of forums by policy or shame while the simple denial of a woman to a man oriented space is itself considered sexist.
-Men are more likely to be raped them women.
-Men had no legal recourse against women for rape until a few years ago because the legal definitions defined rape as penetration.
-Men have very few if any institutions elusively for males, the ones left are constantly under attack.
-Men commit suicide at 3 times the rate of women.

I was reading it with silent approbation, and then I read this:
"Men are more likely to be raped than women"? Where is that place when men gets raped more than a women? The only place that come to my mind is prison...  Get real.

[bryant.coleman]

This is exactly what the homosexual lobby wants. They want to force the men to dress up like women, and the women to dress up like men. If it was voluntary, then I wouldn't have complained. But in this case, it is being coerced. Time has come to end this madness. Cross-dressing and gay pride parades are not a part of tolerance education.

[Hazir]

This is exactly what the homosexual lobby wants. They want to force the men to dress up like women, and the women to dress up like men. If it was voluntary, then I wouldn't have complained. But in this case, it is being coerced. Time has come to end this madness. Cross-dressing and gay pride parades are not a part of tolerance education.

And that is the voice of the reason. Tolerance is one thing and flamboyance is another. If you are gay I have no problem with it. I just do not need to see it.

[beetcoin]

so, what.. are the girls supposed to sexually harass the guys in skirts now? the thing is, though, is that the guys would welcome it.

[TECSHARE]

It's not something I need to spend much time 'researching', just like I don't need to research the Illuminati's involvement in the missing Malaysia plane to know it's bs. I'm not saying there's no sexism against men, but it pales in comparison to the other way around.

Ok so sexism against males is now some how on par with Illuminati conspiracies? REALLY?

You confirm you haven't even bothered to look, so how would you know your assumptions are correct, because TV says so? Your whole conspiracy line is cheap and intellectually lazy. If you so assured of your correctitude what is stopping you from looking? I might add if you don't bother to look you have no authority from which to make these conclusions.

How much 'research' do I need to do exactly? And I've looked, but it's not something I need to spend extensive time studying enough to write a thesis on, but I'll gladly take a look at any links you can show which back up your theory. And I don't think the comparison I made is 'cheap and intellectually lazy' at all, because I just think it's a crazy conspiracy. That's my opinion but feel free to link to to evidence of your thoughts towards this and I'll give it a read.

Yes, because women never get together in little groups and discuss plans secretly among themselves....  

I would much rather you bother to read and do your own research. It is far too of a simple task for people to endlessly nitpick and deconstruct sources so they can convince themselves it is not reality. However I will pose some general examples. I challenge you to think critically while researching some of this instead of the standard confirmation of bias glossed over eye approach.

-Men get to disproportionately die in wars.
-Men are expected to do all of the REAL work.
-Male genital mutilation is institutionalized.
-Men get the most dangerous life threatening jobs.
-Men go to prison at about 10 times more often than woman.
-Men have little to no rights over their family and children.
-Men are falling behind in EVERY LEVEL of education.
-Men are legally obligated to provide for their children, and female child support deadbeats are rarely prosecuted.
-Men are excluded from all types of forums by policy or shame while the simple denial of a woman to a man oriented space is itself considered sexist.
-Men are more likely to be raped than women.
-Men had no legal recourse against women for rape until a few years ago because the legal definitions defined rape as penetration.
-Men have very few if any institutions elusively for males, the ones left are constantly under attack.
-Men commit suicide at 3 times the rate of women.

I was reading it with silent approbation, and then I read this:
"Men are more likely to be raped than women"? Where is that place when men gets raped more than a women? The only place that come to my mind is prison...  Get real.

Exactly. Prison. About 70% of the men are there for nonviolent drug possession, mostly marijuana. Possessing a drug which is enjoyed relationally in some other states means someone DESERVES TO BE RAPED IN THE ASS? Does rape not count as cruel and unusual punishment? Put aside your revenge blood thirst for a moment and consider what these men might do after they are freed, even if you wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.  

Additionally why shouldn't a man have equal rights not to be coerced into sex violently or otherwise? It is a simple task for a woman to threaten a report of rape if the man doesn't comply. How do you prove your innocence? Without any evidence, guess what - you are the one getting raped, in prison. Also why do young boys not have the right not to have their female rapists charged with rape?