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May 15, 2014, 11:10:14 AM
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为什么伟大的事业,国际名牌都是外国的而天朝的屈指可数 Sad
因为天朝对待新事物都没有耐心,因为天朝基本的国情就跟马化腾一样么 Grin

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为什么伟大的事业,国际名牌都是外国的而天朝的屈指可数 Sad
因为天朝对待新事物都没有耐心,因为天朝基本的国情就跟马化腾一样么 Grin

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May 15, 2014, 11:42:50 AM
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这个就是来灌水的,没有任何技术含量
你才是灌水,我就是问下为何,如果你不知道,你不用回帖留言,你是灌水没话说吗?刷子

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May 15, 2014, 11:51:51 AM
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阿里巴巴就是国产的,支付宝这样的服务国外根本没有能与它相比的。

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May 15, 2014, 11:52:00 AM
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总体的原因造成了这样的结果,你知道的。

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May 15, 2014, 11:54:55 AM
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不要侮辱马化腾了,人家也有创新。

用马克思主义来说就是取其精华去其糟粕,借鉴升华
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May 15, 2014, 12:00:58 PM
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大部分的人需要时间接受新事物, 创新者要有耐心
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May 15, 2014, 12:02:36 PM
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阿里巴巴就是国产的,支付宝这样的服务国外根本没有能与它相比的。
国情造就有支付宝现在的规模。

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May 15, 2014, 12:05:45 PM
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中国也有的 但是相对来说少了些 这确实是真的
创新需要头脑和环境 中国人不缺脑 但是环境受限
你懂的

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May 15, 2014, 12:10:47 PM
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你懂得

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May 15, 2014, 12:32:36 PM
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中国也有的 但是相对来说少了些 这确实是真的
创新需要头脑和环境 中国人不缺脑 但是环境受限
你懂的
恩,缺少这方面的环境,以及教育,填鸭式教育

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May 15, 2014, 12:37:37 PM
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阿里巴巴就是国产的,支付宝这样的服务国外根本没有能与它相比的。

华尔街阻击阿里巴巴公司上市
http://www.boxun.com/news/gb/intl/2014/05/201405141452.shtml


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一批中国民主党党员和联合国访民,今天在纽约证券所前集会,抗议马云代表阿里巴巴公司来美国上市。

    中国民主党共同主席王军涛指出,我们并不是要妨碍阿里巴巴公司正常赚钱和正常上市,而是要对马云本人与六四屠夫为伍,发表不负责任的话表示谴责,六四事件二十五周年前夕中共当局开始新的一轮迫害,他们计划对全国500多万政治上活跃的网民编制数据库进行严格监视,同时计划抓捕4万多名异议人士和意见人士,中共的倒行逆施激起了中国民主党人的无比愤慨,今天借此机会也要表达我们对于中共独裁统治极其帮凶的愤慨和抗议。
    
    人权律师叶宁代表抗议人士向纽约证劵交易所管理机构递交了一份抗议书,叶宁指出:马云被评为2013年中国的恶人之榜首,也是反映了中国人民对马云为富不仁,为虎作伥的强烈不满。阿里巴巴公司在历史上也是一个劣迹斑斑的公司,其属下的淘宝网就是抄袭美国著名的C2C公司EBAY网站,无论是其架构,技术规范,交易模式,支付手段,以及盈利模式也是全盘抄袭美国公司的技术,2011年美国贸易代表办公室(USTR)曾经将淘宝网列入假冒和盗版产品的年度“恶名市场”(notorious market)名单。这也反映出美国官方对销售假冒和盗版产品的淘宝公司深恶痛疾。阿里巴巴公司那种赤裸裸的侵犯美国知识产权销售盗版产品的行为理应得到惩处,可是今天“小偷”公司居然要堂而皇之来美国上市,这是对美国价值观的挑战,也是对美国人民的侮辱。我们将进一步提供相应证据,提供给美国国会,要求将“小偷”公司从美国证券市场中扫地出门。
    
    访民代表和部分民主党党员也发表了自己的看法。
    
    博讯记者西诺 纽约报道
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May 15, 2014, 01:04:58 PM
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因为天朝是天朝
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博讯专门编造假消息,没有参考价值。

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May 15, 2014, 01:13:27 PM
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阻击马云圈钱,魏京生致美国证券交易委员会公开信
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    2014年5月12日
   
     尊敬的玛丽·乔-怀特

    主席 阁下
    美国证券交易委员会
    美国证券交易委员会总部
    100架F街,东北
    华盛顿市,哥伦比亚特区,20549
    (202)942-8088
   
    尊敬的怀特女士:
     
    这封信是恭敬地写来表达我对马云先生(又名:马云)最近的举动深表关切。马云先生试图通过提供他的阿里巴巴进军美国外汇市场,马云先生试图从您的尊贵办公室寻求援助以达成通过进入美国股票市场来圈入热钱的目标。
   
    我写这封信给你,希望你和你尊敬的同事加入我们抵制的行列,帮助封杀马先生并通过美国证券交易市场兜售他的阿里巴巴的美国的钓鱼之旅,特别是在他的相同提议遭到香港香港联交所监管当局断然拒绝以后。
     
    阿里巴巴公司劣迹斑斑。马云先生(马云)的业务记录可能已被污染,其广泛传播的瘟疫包括知识产权盗版,违反国外腐败法,与臭名昭著的极权独裁者“家庭勾结,狼狈为奸等等。
    阿里巴巴集团的企业信息,其刻意设计企业黑箱操作缺乏透明度,故意隐瞒,凡此种种将不可避免地使所有美国投资者和普罗大众神经断裂。西方人谁一直搞不清楚惯于误导大众的中国企业运作模式,因此纷纷质疑,他们想知道阿里巴巴的真面目及其财政细节而不可得。
   
    不只华尔街日报,有多家外媒都关注到阿里巴巴的股权结构问题,报导写到,〝虽然创办人马云的持股比大股东软银和雅虎都来的低,但马云还有另外28位合伙人能够提名大部分的董事。在申请案中,并未标明这些董事的姓名。〞
   
    另外,阿里巴巴的经营阶层同时掌控支付宝,但阿里巴巴并未掌握任何股份。在IPO申请书中,阿里巴巴并没有揭露支付宝实际的财务资料。同时,阿里巴巴旗下最赚钱的淘宝等网购平台,个别绩效也没有被公布。另一位分析师说:你想看到的是天猫、淘宝和支付宝的财务指标。
   
    华尔街日报另一篇报导则指出,由于中国反覆无常的商业环境、低度发展的法律系统、仿冒盗版问题,以及中国经济成长放缓,使得阿里巴巴的申请案包含了非常非常多的风险。
   
    华尔街日报另一篇报导则指出,由于中国反覆无常的商业环境、低度发展的法律系统、仿冒盗版问题,以及中国经济成长放缓,使得阿里巴巴的申请案包含了非常非常多的风险。
   
    我特别认真关注这件事情的原因是因为马云先生现在已经成为关于他的声援1989年天安门广场民主运动的极权主义政权的血腥镇压的极权主义中国政府的最可耻的代言人。他高调地坚定支持对和平示威者在北京的大屠杀镇压。他的论调的公共广播一再引起公众的强烈抗议和谴责,他的丑闻形象已经成为侮辱中国热爱自由的人民的图标。特别挑衅人类良知是时逢。1989年北京大屠杀25周年即将来临。如今马云先生水涨船高,其人在全国恶人排名榜上已经向上移动到了全国第一个最受谴责的高端。
   
    我深深的体会到,尊敬的委员会,在你的光荣的主持下,立即否决阿里巴巴的入市申请,阻断马云的种种不道德议程。美国人民将因此在您的符合公共道德的睿智决定中获益。
     
    你真诚的,
   
    / S /魏京生
   
    黄慈萍
   
    May 12, 2014
    Her Excellency Mary Jo White
    The Chair
    The U.S. Security and Exchange Commission
    SEC Headquarters
    100 F Street, NE
    Washington, DC 20549
    (202) 942-8088
   
    Dear Ms. White:
     
    This letter is respectfully written to express my deep concern in Mr. Ma Yun’s (AKA: Jack Ma) most recent move attempting to encircle hot cash through offering his Alibaba into U.S. exchange market, seeking assistance from your distinguished office.
     
    I am writing to you hoping you and your distinguished colleagues shall join us to help boycott Mr. Ma and his Alibaba’s U.S. fishing trip through U.S. Exchange Market, particularly after his offer to Hong Kong HK Stock Exchange oversight authorities was flatly denied.
     
    Alibaba’s track of business records under Mr. Ma Yun’s (Jack Ma) may have been tainted and infected with widely spreading epidemic of intellectual property piracy, foreign corruptions, inclusion with infamous totalitarian dictators’ families.
   
    Alibaba Group willful concealment of corporate information, its deliberately devised lack of corporate transparency, would inevitably make all U.S. investors, and general public, nerve breaking. Western people who have been poorly informed or misinformed by Chinese enterprises have questioned the mode of operation, and they want to know Alibaba’s exact image and identification with numbers and details.
   
    There are a number of foreign media, including the Wall Street Journal, attention to structural problems Alibaba stake, reported wrote, " Although founder Ma 's holdings are lower than the major shareholders to Softbank and Yahoo , but there is another 28 partner Ma most people can nominate a director in the application case, did not indicate the name of the director . "
   
    In addition, the business class while Alibaba Alipay control , but failed to grasp any shares in Alibaba. In the IPO application in Alibaba Alipay did not disclose the actual financial information. Meanwhile, Alibaba's most profitable online shopping platform Taobao , individual performance has not been announced. Many IT experts believe that Alibaba’s “Taobao” had completely copied “Ebay” in violation of U.S. intellectual property rights , even though the primary victim, which has sizable investment in the Mainland China, has not protest it.
   
    According to the Wall Street Journal in another article, due to the slowdown in China capricious business environment , the legal system is underdeveloped , and counterfeiting piracy issues, and China 's economic growth , making the application for the case of Alibaba contains very, very much risk. But most of all, Alibaba under the suspicious and controversial figure Mr. Ma Yun, its most recent move to peep on U.S. hot cash market would not only mean to encircle billions of dollars, its attempted mess-up with the U.S. financial market would inevitably corrupt the rule and order of U.S. exchange market in visible future. Such a potential abuse and corruption in a long run will be worse than causing chaos occasionally.
     
    The reason that I was seriously concerned with this matter is because that Mr. Ma Yun has now become a China’s most scandalous figure regarding his vocal support of the totalitarian regime’s bloody suppression of 1989 Tian An Men Square pro-democracy movement. His high profile public address in staunch support of bloodbath crackdown against peaceful protesters in Beijing in 1989 has repeatedly attracted public outcry and emotional condemnations though out China and his scandalous image has become an icon of insult against freedom loving people of China particularly at this approaching eve of 25th Anniversary of June 4th , .Massacre. Momentarily, Mr. Ma Yun has been moved upward to the nation’s first place of the most condemned persons’ list.
     
    I would deeply appreciate should this Honorable Commission, under Your Honor’s auspices, immediately deny Alibaba’s Application, and Ma’s unethical agenda therefore be intercepted by the People of the United States under your monumental moral influence.
     
    Sincerely yours,
   
    /s/Wei Jingsheng
    Huang Ciping
     
    cc. Mr. Andrew Calamari,
    New York Regional Office
    SEC Regional Director
    Brookfield Place
    200 Vesey Street, Suite 400
    New York, NY 10281-1022
    (212) 336-1100
    e-mail: newyork@sec.govTop of Form
     
     
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May 15, 2014, 01:26:43 PM
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天朝怪象丛生,已经见怪不怪了,阿里巴巴最大的投资人也不是中国的资本
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大家都是地球人,反正都是富人挣钱,无所谓了
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May 15, 2014, 01:59:57 PM
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阿里巴巴就是国产的,支付宝这样的服务国外根本没有能与它相比的。
你确定?阿里巴巴现在日本软银占了30%股份,yahoo占了40% 你说还是国产的?
可笑的是 当外国人看好中国阿里巴巴的时候 中国人并不看好
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May 15, 2014, 02:20:07 PM
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天朝说了,他看不顺眼就要搞你,搞到你残,搞到你死。
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May 15, 2014, 07:38:03 PM
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因为伟大的事业在还不伟大的时候就已经被扼杀在摇篮里了。。。
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