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May 22, 2014, 06:20:35 AM |
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Don't trust Google maps when looking for HK businesses. A building with 25 floors is considered 'low rise' here! Even B2C businesses (shops and restaurants) can be hidden on the 20th floor of a very nondescript building with no sign outside.
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May 22, 2014, 06:35:50 AM |
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The address from their website is "Belcher’s Street, 56, Sai Wan, Hong Kong"
The photo was taken this morning onsite in person. (not google map)
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ekoice
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May 22, 2014, 01:28:54 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fo8GIU3j.png&t=665&c=jbnL2kC1bnd3Qw) how do you call it ? I say that they are making us believe they are REAL...f*ck
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ragi
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May 22, 2014, 04:44:04 PM |
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no.
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May 23, 2014, 03:48:10 AM |
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Yeah. That "business address" is the final proof that we got Cexx'd. Following another part of that mysterious "office building" taken from Google Street. They were captured back in 2011, so they are a bit old, but it is more than obvious that this is not even a business district where you would expect one of the most secure Crypto Exchanges to be located ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F999dzine.com%2Fuploads%2FHKCex-Belchers-Street-56-Hong-Kong-1.jpg&t=665&c=9Ufm8UDdJa3KGw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F999dzine.com%2Fuploads%2FHKCex-Belchers-Street-56-Hong-Kong-2.jpg&t=665&c=Qyq9-EuIR_eFrg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F999dzine.com%2Fuploads%2FHKCex-Belchers-Street-56-Hong-Kong-3.jpg&t=665&c=8_Oku3ktBN2hWg) Officially Fucked! I really hope those scumbags are getting doxxed very soooonish. I wanna see them burn! I am so fkn pissed. Let's fundraise some to hire a hitman. Who is down with that?
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May 23, 2014, 04:11:42 AM Last edit: May 23, 2014, 04:48:36 AM by BTCalexxx2.0 |
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Following the address where MG Foreign Exchange Limited, the company found in the website's footer, is allegedly registered. >>> UNIT F, 18/F, MG TOWER, 133 HOI BUN ROAD, KWUN TONG, KOWLOON <<< It can be found by searching for their MSO Licence # 14-02-01350 >>> https://eservices.customs.gov.hk/MSOS/wsrh/001s1Although the building itself looks a bit better, it is pretty obvious that this is just another dead end. A typical boiler room kind of building with lots of abandoned office space... >>> http://www.hongkongoffice.com/building_search/office_profile.asp?B=12173#PLUS, there seems to be another domain with the same IP address as hkcex.net >>> fuckday.info >>> http://domain-kb.com/ipv4/124.248.221.5Just coincidence or a fkn bad joke?
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May 23, 2014, 09:35:05 AM |
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fuckday.info is an amazon re-seller it would seem.
In that case, you may be able to get their information from Amazon.
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May 23, 2014, 10:17:37 AM Last edit: May 23, 2014, 10:42:49 AM by BTCalexxx2.0 |
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The registrant's information is public in the case of fuckday.info, but there is another thing which bothers me the most atm. I wonder how the US government, to be more precise the USCC, is involved in all this. Their USCC Economic Issue Brief No. 4 "Bitcoin’s Uncertain Future in China" published on the 12th May 2014 by Lauren Gloudeman is more than suspicious. It almost seems like they were part of preparing this large-scale scam. The timing might have been just coincidence, but the miserable research most definitely was not. The report is obviously propagating Hong Kong "to be primed for Bitcoin’s successful takeoff as a medium of exchange" (p.15) Moreover, Lauren Gloudeman uses a map allegedly taken from HKCex.net that shows different Bitcoin ATM locations. Even more suspicious that Cex is ONLY mentioned ONCE in the graphic's caption. No additional word about the new exchange in the whole paper. And it did in fact misguide me provided that it has been one of the main reasons I decided to deposit, ending up tarp'd. While I have to admit that I only scanned the content it was crystal clear to me that the US government would not promote, nor mention possibly fraudulent businesses in such a report. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F999dzine.com%2Fuploads%2Fuscc-issue-brief-no4-hkcex-connection.jpg&t=665&c=04_MS2zMAsS0bw) Source: http://origin.www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/Research/USCC%20Economic%20Issue%20Brief%20-%20Bitcoin%20-%2005%2012%2014.pdfCould it be that this whole fraud was orchestra'd by a conspiracy of different Western individuals/organizations trying to fool Chinese into the HKCex scam??? Not as unlikely as you might think now. That is for certain. By the way, don't you wonder why most English writing BTC news websites kept calm about those $25 million raised, although they have been reporting the alleged investment of $2 million like it has been a huge event back then? Well, take a look yourself at what is written on pages 13-15 and make up your own mind about all that...
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May 23, 2014, 11:36:30 AM |
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yeah, that 56 belcher street isn't a proper address at all.
for that building, you will need a Floor, and Flat, even if they are operating in an apartment. but when they tell people to send their passport to the incorrect address..
I think it is very clear now. the company is a cover.
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May 23, 2014, 01:10:58 PM |
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Tried to deliver my freshly notarized copy of my passport today. There are numerous apartments in the building and nothing to identify where HKCEx is in the building. I have emailed them requesting clarification.
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May 23, 2014, 01:15:06 PM |
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Tried to deliver my freshly notarized copy of my passport today. There are numerous apartments in the building and nothing to identify where HKCEx is in the building. I have emailed them requesting clarification.
Clarification: Its a scam
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May 23, 2014, 04:30:39 PM |
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Yeah. It's over... But now the hunt is officially on. I bet they were a bit surprised by being exposed that fast. There is a good chance for them making mistakes which might lead straight to their doorstep. I sincerely hope that they will be getting doxxed soon.
The only thing we still need to do is reporting them to law enforcement, as there are Interpol, HK Police as well as Singapore Police, and of course to the hosting company. I can't believe that the website is still up and running... That is fucking disgusting!
Well, take care.
Cheers
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May 23, 2014, 04:40:32 PM |
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Yeah. It's over... But now the hunt is officially on. I bet they were a bit surprised by being exposed that fast. There is a good chance for them making mistakes which might lead straight to their doorstep. I sincerely hope that they will be getting doxxed soon.
The only thing we still need to do is reporting them to law enforcement, as there are Interpol, HK Police as well as Singapore Police, and of course to the hosting company. I can't believe that the website is still up and running... That is fucking disgusting!
Well, take care.
Cheers
I'm more surprised that they chose to run this soon. If I was them, I would have waited a long while. Then again I guess that increases risk? Furthermore, why didn't they just run a profitable business and not have to worry about the police?
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May 23, 2014, 05:37:00 PM |
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May 23, 2014, 11:10:29 PM |
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I'm more surprised that they chose to run this soon.
Very simple... Those guys are fucking idiots. Probably some amateurs, who crapped their pants as soon as they realized how foolish they were running this scam. For example, I would have had the Bonus connected to a certain limitation on the first withdrawal (not before the 1st of June e.g.). Moreover, their trading bot was set to a price level which was ridiculously high. I mean 5-10% over Stamp plus those 8.88% bonus would certainly had been way enough of an incentive. Most likely, even more effective... Bottom line, there would still be lots of moniez coming in right now in case they would have done their jobs properly. I had an intense conversation with "Orlando" about them being very amateurish. They totally failed! And this is also why we can be pretty positive about them getting caught sooonish.... At least, I hope so ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) So, in case you plan to run the next scam feel free to consult me upfront ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Looking forward...
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May 27, 2014, 07:06:20 PM |
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I just got a reply from Sunny Vision, they have threatened to shutdown HKCEx's server if they don't get a response from them soon.
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May 28, 2014, 01:28:19 AM |
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I just got a reply from Sunny Vision, they have threatened to shutdown HKCEx's server if they don't get a response from them soon.
Good news!!
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May 28, 2014, 05:58:09 AM |
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I guess they can just switch to another server provider, maybe it's better to hire hackers to hack in their server to see if there's anything left for our victims.
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