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brian123321
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May 22, 2014, 06:43:28 AM |
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actually 0.05 BTC is what i want to play on either of the two. Let me know if youre interested. I am going to lock them in at a book tomorrow an hour or two before gametime
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SixFigures (OP)
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May 22, 2014, 03:51:39 PM |
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I have two plays i like for tomorrow if you are interested in taking the other side. With baseball i would like to point out that if there is a pitching change on either side before the game starts then the bet is off.
Toronto ML
Buehler
San Fran ML
Hudson
I'll take your action on SF. I have Red Sox. You have SF. Current line is -152/+140. Vig free line is +/- 145. So I'm risking 0.0725 btc to win .05 btc. Booked! |
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brian123321
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May 22, 2014, 05:09:33 PM |
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I have two plays i like for tomorrow if you are interested in taking the other side. With baseball i would like to point out that if there is a pitching change on either side before the game starts then the bet is off.
Toronto ML
Buehler
San Fran ML
Hudson
I'll take your action on SF. I have Red Sox. You have SF. Current line is -152/+140. Vig free line is +/- 145. So I'm risking 0.0725 btc to win .05 btc. Booked! Ok booked. I am going to lock the toronto one in at a sportbook. |
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brian123321
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May 22, 2014, 05:13:45 PM |
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umm ok you confused me and i see way.
You say you have red sox but you say youre taking my san fran action.
Toronto plays the red sox. San Fran plays colorado. Can you verify you mean you are taking the other side of my toronto bet?
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SixFigures (OP)
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May 22, 2014, 05:18:27 PM |
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umm ok you confused me and i see way.
You say you have red sox but you say youre taking my san fran action.
Toronto plays the red sox. San Fran plays colorado. Can you verify you mean you are taking the other side of my toronto bet?
Shoot my bad .. crossing games. line is -112/+104. Vig free line is +/- 108 My 0.054 BTC to your .05 BTC I have rockies. you have giants. Sorry. EDIT: I'll also take the other game if you want, but i though max you wanted to risk was .05 btc total. |
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brian123321
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May 22, 2014, 05:32:31 PM |
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.05 per game. You dont have to take the other game unless you want it. I have already put both in at sportsbooks anyways before i saw the confusion
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SixFigures (OP)
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May 22, 2014, 05:57:25 PM |
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.05 per game. You dont have to take the other game unless you want it. I have already put both in at sportsbooks anyways before i saw the confusion
Alright, we'll just leave it go for now. We got the one game anyway. No need to rush into things. |
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brian123321
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May 23, 2014, 01:44:58 AM |
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welp looks like san fran game got postponed which cancels the bet. At least that is how it works at sports books so i would assume the same here?
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WhatsBitcoin
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May 23, 2014, 01:47:56 AM |
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Looking for 1 BTC match on the houston Team total for the 10pm game against seattle. I want the over 3 runs by houston, bookmaker.eu a cash book has it at -115 for the over 3. I'll do -111 with someone if they'll take it. The under is -105 on bookmaker.
Vig free would be -105 over 3, +105 under 3, but I'm looking for over 3 paying -111. Risking 1 BTC.
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Bismarckbkk
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May 23, 2014, 02:49:42 AM |
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I personally was hoping we could just use this thread and a trust system. post everything in this thread so there is a record of it. i really wish this site did not allow editing of posts but we would have have to work around that.
Trust system will never work. Gamblers are shady -- bottom line. All you need is one person to mess it up. ! this . Dont trust anyone in the gambling world ever. I would be willing to partake if there is good way to escrow. Using OP as escrow is obviously stupid. |
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brian123321
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May 23, 2014, 03:02:12 AM |
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I personally was hoping we could just use this thread and a trust system. post everything in this thread so there is a record of it. i really wish this site did not allow editing of posts but we would have have to work around that.
Trust system will never work. Gamblers are shady -- bottom line. All you need is one person to mess it up. ! this . Dont trust anyone in the gambling world ever. I would be willing to partake if there is good way to escrow. Using OP as escrow is obviously stupid. Trust system does work. Dont make big bets with someone who has no trust. Start off small and get trust built and make sure to give positive feed back as well as give them a plus on their user name. That little +/- simple called trust next to their name. If you a new person with little trust and you are betting against someone with a lot of trust he may require you send half the bet up front. However you want to work it out. It can work but wont work if you have zero trust yourself. There are a lot of trust worthy people out there, more than untrustworthy. |
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Bismarckbkk
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May 23, 2014, 03:25:28 AM |
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Trust system is guaranteed to fail sooner or later. Its also a perfect angle shoot that im sure will be exploited by building trust and then disappearing at once with alot of coins.
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brian123321
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May 23, 2014, 03:55:55 AM |
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Trust system is guaranteed to fail sooner or later. Its also a perfect angle shoot that im sure will be exploited by building trust and then disappearing at once with alot of coins.
How are you going to disappear with a lot of coins? Please explain this? What are you making a 5 BTC plus bet? I dont think so and in that case sure grab an escrow. What im saying is you dont need to have an escrow for small amounts. I am very interested in hearing your reasoning on how someone is going to "take off" with a ton of coins? By take off do you mean not pay a bet? because technically speaking that would not be taking off, that would be not paying. The winner of the bet would not have technically lost anything by the other person not sending the losing bet. Want to know how someone could become greedy and take off with a bunch of coins? Using an escrow, thats how. |
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brian123321
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May 23, 2014, 04:04:25 AM |
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You do realize the whole idea behind using an escrow is using someone you "trust" right? But in this case of trust everyone is sending one person their coins to hold and then disperse them according to bets. Your logic makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If you are saying the trust system wont work then why are you trusting someone you dont know to hold a lot of coins instead of trusting the one person you make a bet with to send a small amount if they lose a bet. On top of that over time people will gain trust and it will reflect in their trust rating. Take a look at six figures, its +1 because i gave him positive feed back when he paid his loss. But you would rather everyone send amounts of BTC to someone who is deemed "trust worthy" and have them in charge of a large amount of coins? Thats insane. I dont trust any escrow, you want to know why? Because how do i know you dont know the guy? How do i know he will run away with the coins and then send you half of them? I trust myself to send a losing bet. If i dont pay a bet guess what? I basically will be forced to leave the forum.
I agree, some people will take advantage of this and make bets with coins they do not have and will not pay when they lose. However, if you are a trust worthy person, and your rating shows, and you have made, lost and paid a lot of bets you have the power to require a lesser known better who does not have such a rating to send a certain % of the bet before the game starts to hold on to. This is how it is suppose to work. I have been around this enough during the poker boom trading money on two plus two with people i didnt know. If someone approached me wanting to trade i would do my research and figure out if their have been any complains. I would see how many successful trades he has done and if he had done a lot more than me i would send my money first and he would send his second. Then we would each leave positive feed back in the thread to be tracked by people later on. This is how this stuff is suppose to work.
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brian123321
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May 23, 2014, 04:08:39 AM |
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Oh and i was never once burned trading money on two plus two. Others were but in almost all cases it was because the person wanted their money traded fast and did not do the research to see if he was trading with a new account or not. Then he would transfer a very large some of money first to an account that had either not done any trades who done a few small trades and he would get burned. I had a system for trading large amounts of money, i would do them in increments. This why if i do get burned im going to get burned for a very small % of my money. There are ways to figure these things out, an escrow holding a lot of coins worth a lot of money is not one of them.
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Bismarckbkk
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May 23, 2014, 04:13:51 AM |
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Okay for a small amount I agree I would gamble for small amount with people who seem trustworthy.
Still ive seen it personally, I have been around gamblers and the best course of action in general is to NOT trust ANYONE no matter who.
This trust system seems like a perfect gound for desperate gambler to take a free shot. Ive seen it, a broke gambler will scam you for even small amounts, they will invent the biggest sob story just so you give them 5$ to eat which they hope they can spin up into 10k.
Its hard enough to trust friends, what about an anonymous gambling forum?
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brian123321
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May 23, 2014, 04:16:44 AM |
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you keep referring back to a point i already made. i know right now at this moment in time there is not really any trust for anyone bc this just started. But months from now there will be people in here with trust and if someone comes in that is not known and has no trust then you can require them to send a portion of the bet before the game.
If they dont want to do it then dont bet with them. They would probably be someone trying to scam.
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Bismarckbkk
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May 23, 2014, 04:17:16 AM |
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Oh and i was never once burned trading money on two plus two. Others were but in almost all cases it was because the person wanted their money traded fast and did not do the research to see if he was trading with a new account or not. Then he would transfer a very large some of money first to an account that had either not done any trades who done a few small trades and he would get burned. I had a system for trading large amounts of money, i would do them in increments. This why if i do get burned im going to get burned for a very small % of my money. There are ways to figure these things out, an escrow holding a lot of coins worth a lot of money is not one of them.
Ive traded on 2p2 with trusted members , I havent been scammed either but others have. In the high stakes xfer thread there are actual known personalities with a track record. Who do you know Bitcointalk that has a track record as a sportsbettor? |
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May 23, 2014, 04:18:02 AM |
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you keep referring back to a point i already made. i know right now at this moment in time there is not really any trust for anyone bc this just started. But months from now there will be people in here with trust and if someone comes in that is not known and has no trust then you can require them to send a portion of the bet before the game.
If they dont want to do it then dont bet with them. They would probably be someone trying to scam.
fair enough, I might take some action once in a while |
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