Looking For Vig-Free Action On Sports?

[Bismarckbkk]

Unless you're PROVEN and i mean truly PROVEN trustworthy, all vig free bets must be escrowed (if dealing with me). Localbitcoins or another escrow site works.

Glad no one took me up on the over 3 Team total for houston, made this play instead:

https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/3721fd4RVZBMUtXV3dwMjRlenVJUTdsMnpWdz09/r/33588/

Id have taken it for 0.1 BTC. Didnt see it in time. Pm me if you want a future team total, ill do up to 0.1 BTC. Maybe more

[brian123321]

Unless you're PROVEN and i mean truly PROVEN trustworthy, all vig free bets must be escrowed (if dealing with me). Localbitcoins or another escrow site works.

Glad no one took me up on the over 3 Team total for houston, made this play instead:

https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/3721fd4RVZBMUtXV3dwMjRlenVJUTdsMnpWdz09/r/33588/

and what % does local bitcoins take ?

[brian123321]

Having a fee for an escrow quickly becomes the opposite a vig free bet

[Bismarckbkk]

1% afaik but it doesnt work as an escrow for btc / btc bets

[Midwestbitcoiner]

This reminds me of the 2+2 betting thread, except they do it based on trusting each other, not escrow.  If someone does not pay up, they are never allowed to place a bet again.

I won't send someone my btc as an escrow, especially as I bet small time.  I wouldnt require the other person to escrow either.  If they dont pay out, they will be called out, and people will know not to bet with the welcher.  It's pretty simple.

[brian123321]

1% afaik but it doesnt work as an escrow for btc / btc bets

then what are you proposing we use as an escrow for btc bets? Or are you proposing that we constantly bet between cash and BTC and have to convert it possibly losing or gaining money?

Either way if that is how you want to do it that is fine.  Personally i dont mind paying the vig at a sportsbook and that is why i make the majority of my bets there.  I only check here to see if certain people want to take the other side of any of my plays before i put them in at a book.

[brian123321]

This reminds me of the 2+2 betting thread, except they do it based on trusting each other, not escrow.  If someone does not pay up, they are never allowed to place a bet again.

I won't send someone my btc as an escrow, especially as I bet small time.  I wouldnt require the other person to escrow either.  If they dont pay out, they will be called out, and people will know not to bet with the welcher.  It's pretty simple.

Thank you i have mentioned the two pus two thread for trading money in here multiple times but i do not think they understand how it works.  The difference here is that its a lot safer.  You dont techincally lose money if someone doesnt pay up their bet.  As if you were burned when trading money you would have sent your portion of the money and received nothing in return. 

This site has trust on the account which makes it even easier than two plus two where you would have to search through thousands of pages to figure out if the guy had a positive rep.

[Midwestbitcoiner]

This reminds me of the 2+2 betting thread, except they do it based on trusting each other, not escrow.  If someone does not pay up, they are never allowed to place a bet again.

I won't send someone my btc as an escrow, especially as I bet small time.  I wouldnt require the other person to escrow either.  If they dont pay out, they will be called out, and people will know not to bet with the welcher.  It's pretty simple.

Thank you i have mentioned the two pus two thread for trading money in here multiple times but i do not think they understand how it works.  The difference here is that its a lot safer.  You dont techincally lose money if someone doesnt pay up their bet.  As if you were burned when trading money you would have sent your portion of the money and received nothing in return. 

This site has trust on the account which makes it even easier than two plus two where you would have to search through thousands of pages to figure out if the guy had a positive rep.

Agree on that 100%.  You arent out anything, and its really easy to let people know the person did not pay out. 

If anyone wants to make a small bet vig free, I may take on one if I like the other side.

[brian123321]

If anyone is on the opposite of these three plays tomorrow please let me know, im gonna hold off putting them in a sports book for now.

Miami ML

White Sox ML

Dodgers ML

[Bismarckbkk]

1% afaik but it doesnt work as an escrow for btc / btc bets

then what are you proposing we use as an escrow for btc bets? Or are you proposing that we constantly bet between cash and BTC and have to convert it possibly losing or gaining money?

Either way if that is how you want to do it that is fine.  Personally i dont mind paying the vig at a sportsbook and that is why i make the majority of my bets there.  I only check here to see if certain people want to take the other side of any of my plays before i put them in at a book.

I was just pointing out that localbitcoin doesnt work.

[Midwestbitcoiner]

If anyone is on the opposite of these three plays tomorrow please let me know, im gonna hold off putting them in a sports book for now.

Miami ML

White Sox ML

Dodgers ML

I will take MIL ML tomorrow, risk up to .05 btc on it.  If you want it, post the current vig free odds and reply booked.

[brian123321]

If anyone is on the opposite of these three plays tomorrow please let me know, im gonna hold off putting them in a sports book for now.

Miami ML

White Sox ML

Dodgers ML

I will take MIL ML tomorrow, risk up to .05 btc on it.  If you want it, post the current vig free odds and reply booked.

Interesting.  I am attempting to flush out a possibly scammer . . . . signing up today and showing up in this thread and seem to be the only person besides me who endorses the trust system.  What i did with this post was stick bait out there but your response intrigues me.  The HUGE red flags are not there.  I would have expected you to want to book all three or take the bigger favorite (yankees). 

I honestly can not make a decision by this response from you picking milwaukee and nothing else.  I was not planning on playing this game but ill take miami ML if you still want to make the bet. 

However, since you are indeed a new account that signed up today and showed up in this thread during the debate over scammers i would require you to send half the placed bet ahead of time.

I would be willing to bet up to 0.05 BTC on this game if you are willing to do that.  If not that is fine no harm done and you can try your luck with someone else.

[WhatsBitcoin]

If anyone is on the opposite of these three plays tomorrow please let me know, im gonna hold off putting them in a sports book for now.

Miami ML

White Sox ML

Dodgers ML

I will take MIL ML tomorrow, risk up to .05 btc on it.  If you want it, post the current vig free odds and reply booked.

Interesting.  I am attempting to flush out a possibly scammer . . . . signing up today and showing up in this thread and seem to be the only person besides me who endorses the trust system.  What i did with this post was stick bait out there but your response intrigues me.  The HUGE red flags are not there.  I would have expected you to want to book all three or take the bigger favorite (yankees). 

I honestly can not make a decision by this response from you picking milwaukee and nothing else.  I was not planning on playing this game but ill take miami ML if you still want to make the bet. 

However, since you are indeed a new account that signed up today and showed up in this thread during the debate over scammers i would require you to send half the placed bet ahead of time.

I would be willing to bet up to 0.05 BTC on this game if you are willing to do that.  If not that is fine no harm done and you can try your luck with someone else.

Require the FULL AMOUNT in escrow. You're asking for a scam here brian...

[brian123321]

If anyone is on the opposite of these three plays tomorrow please let me know, im gonna hold off putting them in a sports book for now.

Miami ML

White Sox ML

Dodgers ML

I will take MIL ML tomorrow, risk up to .05 btc on it.  If you want it, post the current vig free odds and reply booked.

Interesting.  I am attempting to flush out a possibly scammer . . . . signing up today and showing up in this thread and seem to be the only person besides me who endorses the trust system.  What i did with this post was stick bait out there but your response intrigues me.  The HUGE red flags are not there.  I would have expected you to want to book all three or take the bigger favorite (yankees). 

I honestly can not make a decision by this response from you picking milwaukee and nothing else.  I was not planning on playing this game but ill take miami ML if you still want to make the bet. 

However, since you are indeed a new account that signed up today and showed up in this thread during the debate over scammers i would require you to send half the placed bet ahead of time.

I would be willing to bet up to 0.05 BTC on this game if you are willing to do that.  If not that is fine no harm done and you can try your luck with someone else.

Require the FULL AMOUNT in escrow. You're asking for a scam here brian...

I understand this and that is why im asking to have him send me half of the betting amount up front.  If i lose the bet i send my full payment plus his original half back.  If i win the bet he either sends the other half or is a scammer and is still out money.

[Midwestbitcoiner]

If anyone is on the opposite of these three plays tomorrow please let me know, im gonna hold off putting them in a sports book for now.

Miami ML

White Sox ML

Dodgers ML

I will take MIL ML tomorrow, risk up to .05 btc on it.  If you want it, post the current vig free odds and reply booked.

Interesting.  I am attempting to flush out a possibly scammer . . . . signing up today and showing up in this thread and seem to be the only person besides me who endorses the trust system.  What i did with this post was stick bait out there but your response intrigues me.  The HUGE red flags are not there.  I would have expected you to want to book all three or take the bigger favorite (yankees). 

I honestly can not make a decision by this response from you picking milwaukee and nothing else.  I was not planning on playing this game but ill take miami ML if you still want to make the bet. 

However, since you are indeed a new account that signed up today and showed up in this thread during the debate over scammers i would require you to send half the placed bet ahead of time.

I would be willing to bet up to 0.05 BTC on this game if you are willing to do that.  If not that is fine no harm done and you can try your luck with someone else.

I am not putting up ANY amount of the bet up front, if I want to do that, I can bet at a sportsbook.  

I will say that I did not sign up today.  And I am on 2+2 also, but it is up to you.  .05 or less, if you want the bet,

[WhatsBitcoin]

If anyone is on the opposite of these three plays tomorrow please let me know, im gonna hold off putting them in a sports book for now.

Miami ML

White Sox ML

Dodgers ML

I will take MIL ML tomorrow, risk up to .05 btc on it.  If you want it, post the current vig free odds and reply booked.

Interesting.  I am attempting to flush out a possibly scammer . . . . signing up today and showing up in this thread and seem to be the only person besides me who endorses the trust system.  What i did with this post was stick bait out there but your response intrigues me.  The HUGE red flags are not there.  I would have expected you to want to book all three or take the bigger favorite (yankees).  

I honestly can not make a decision by this response from you picking milwaukee and nothing else.  I was not planning on playing this game but ill take miami ML if you still want to make the bet.  

However, since you are indeed a new account that signed up today and showed up in this thread during the debate over scammers i would require you to send half the placed bet ahead of time.

I would be willing to bet up to 0.05 BTC on this game if you are willing to do that.  If not that is fine no harm done and you can try your luck with someone else.

I am not putting up ANY amount of the bet up front, if I want to do that, I can bet at a sportsbook.  

I will say that I did not sign up today.  And I am on 2+2 also, but it is up to you.  .05 or less, if you want the bet,

You are 100% a scammer. Obviously brian don't do the bet.

ALSO, for anyone who wants to know what bets I will match in advance. I tail two cappers currently on ALL their plays on sportsbookreview.com: "Bigpage25" and "NoCoincidences".

I tail their bets unit for unit (my unit being 0.20 BTC at least). If you find their threads on SBR and like the opposite side they are on let me know. I am fine with using an escrow for the match vig-free bet. Minimum 0.20 BTC match though so that my time is not consumed with the process. Will not "book" a bet without money in escrow or upfront unless you have truly proven yourself trustworthy here on the forums.

For the nitro guys that have asked bout me in chat, I went 2-0 today on personal plays for +0.933 BTC (Houston FF +0.5) and +0.96 BTC (Chase Buchanan -2 games). Will be back tomorrow in chat, good luck to sports bettors especially nitro chatters.

[Midwestbitcoiner]

If anyone is on the opposite of these three plays tomorrow please let me know, im gonna hold off putting them in a sports book for now.

Miami ML

White Sox ML

Dodgers ML

I will take MIL ML tomorrow, risk up to .05 btc on it.  If you want it, post the current vig free odds and reply booked.

Interesting.  I am attempting to flush out a possibly scammer . . . . signing up today and showing up in this thread and seem to be the only person besides me who endorses the trust system.  What i did with this post was stick bait out there but your response intrigues me.  The HUGE red flags are not there.  I would have expected you to want to book all three or take the bigger favorite (yankees). 

I honestly can not make a decision by this response from you picking milwaukee and nothing else.  I was not planning on playing this game but ill take miami ML if you still want to make the bet. 

However, since you are indeed a new account that signed up today and showed up in this thread during the debate over scammers i would require you to send half the placed bet ahead of time.

I would be willing to bet up to 0.05 BTC on this game if you are willing to do that.  If not that is fine no harm done and you can try your luck with someone else.

I am not putting up ANY amount of the bet up front, if I want to do that, I can bet at a sportsbook.  

I will say that I did not sign up today.  And I am on 2+2 also, but it is up to you.  .05 or less, if you want the bet,

You are 100% a scammer. Obviously brian don't do the bet.

I am 100% not a scammer.  He can decline, and I won't be upset.  If he wants the btc sent to him first, he can start up his own sportsbook.  I place bets weekly on 2+2, using this exact method, and never have issue. 

Don't call someone a scammer without any proof of such things.  I have not stolen from you, or anyone, and have no intention of doing so.

Thank you.

[brian123321]

If anyone is on the opposite of these three plays tomorrow please let me know, im gonna hold off putting them in a sports book for now.

Miami ML

White Sox ML

Dodgers ML

I will take MIL ML tomorrow, risk up to .05 btc on it.  If you want it, post the current vig free odds and reply booked.

Interesting.  I am attempting to flush out a possibly scammer . . . . signing up today and showing up in this thread and seem to be the only person besides me who endorses the trust system.  What i did with this post was stick bait out there but your response intrigues me.  The HUGE red flags are not there.  I would have expected you to want to book all three or take the bigger favorite (yankees). 

I honestly can not make a decision by this response from you picking milwaukee and nothing else.  I was not planning on playing this game but ill take miami ML if you still want to make the bet. 

However, since you are indeed a new account that signed up today and showed up in this thread during the debate over scammers i would require you to send half the placed bet ahead of time.

I would be willing to bet up to 0.05 BTC on this game if you are willing to do that.  If not that is fine no harm done and you can try your luck with someone else.

I am not putting up ANY amount of the bet up front, if I want to do that, I can bet at a sportsbook.  

I will say that I did not sign up today.  And I am on 2+2 also, but it is up to you.  .05 or less, if you want the bet,

You are 100% a scammer. Obviously brian don't do the bet.

I am 100% not a scammer.  He can decline, and I won't be upset.  If he wants the btc sent to him first, he can start up his own sportsbook.  I place bets weekly on 2+2, using this exact method, and never have issue. 

Don't call someone a scammer without any proof of such things.  I have not stolen from you, or anyone, and have no intention of doing so.

Thank you.

I wont take the bet.

[Midwestbitcoiner]

If anyone is on the opposite of these three plays tomorrow please let me know, im gonna hold off putting them in a sports book for now.

Miami ML

White Sox ML

Dodgers ML

I will take MIL ML tomorrow, risk up to .05 btc on it.  If you want it, post the current vig free odds and reply booked.

Interesting.  I am attempting to flush out a possibly scammer . . . . signing up today and showing up in this thread and seem to be the only person besides me who endorses the trust system.  What i did with this post was stick bait out there but your response intrigues me.  The HUGE red flags are not there.  I would have expected you to want to book all three or take the bigger favorite (yankees). 

I honestly can not make a decision by this response from you picking milwaukee and nothing else.  I was not planning on playing this game but ill take miami ML if you still want to make the bet. 

However, since you are indeed a new account that signed up today and showed up in this thread during the debate over scammers i would require you to send half the placed bet ahead of time.

I would be willing to bet up to 0.05 BTC on this game if you are willing to do that.  If not that is fine no harm done and you can try your luck with someone else.

I am not putting up ANY amount of the bet up front, if I want to do that, I can bet at a sportsbook.  

I will say that I did not sign up today.  And I am on 2+2 also, but it is up to you.  .05 or less, if you want the bet,

You are 100% a scammer. Obviously brian don't do the bet.

I am 100% not a scammer.  He can decline, and I won't be upset.  If he wants the btc sent to him first, he can start up his own sportsbook.  I place bets weekly on 2+2, using this exact method, and never have issue. 

Don't call someone a scammer without any proof of such things.  I have not stolen from you, or anyone, and have no intention of doing so.

Thank you.

I wont take the bet.

Not a problem.  If you open up a legitimate sportsbook, and have a good track record, I will consider becoming a customer. 
Good luck on your bets tomorrow.  I like the side you are picking on the other two games.  Also, consider SEA ML tomorrow as well, for another good pick.

[SixFigures]

HOLY SHIT THERE'S ALOT OF TALK IN HERE!

welp looks like san fran game got postponed which cancels the bet.  At least that is how it works at sports books so i would assume the same here?

Yeah, it's canceled.

Looking for 1 BTC match on the houston Team total for the 10pm game against seattle. I want the over 3 runs by houston, bookmaker.eu a cash book has it at -115 for the over 3. I'll do -111 with someone if they'll take it. The under is -105 on bookmaker.

Vig free would be -105 over 3, +105 under 3, but I'm looking for over 3 paying -111. Risking 1 BTC.

I'll gladly take these bets. Next time PM me and escrow. No way in hell I'm taking somebody for a $500+ bet on their word.

! this . Dont trust anyone in the gambling world ever.

I would be willing to partake if there is good way to escrow. Using OP as escrow is obviously stupid.

Dude, I get you, you don't know me. So asking you to escrow money is crazy. I was just trying to eliminate some factor where I would get scammed. Pretty much I'm just trying to get vig-free sports betting community here with a lack of scam potential.

Trust system does work.  Dont make big bets with someone who has no trust.  Start off small and get trust built and make sure to give positive feed back as well as give them a plus on their user name.  That little +/- simple called trust next to their name.  If you a new person with little trust and you are betting against someone with a lot of trust he may require you send half the bet up front.  However you want to work it out.  It can work but wont work if you have zero trust yourself.  There are a lot of trust worthy people out there, more than untrustworthy.

brian - I get ya bud. I really do, but the fact is that I might make a .1 bet with you tomorrow and I could lose. I have two options:
1. Pay you.
2. Sign off bitcointalk and never talk to you again.

I mean, it sucks saying it that way, but there's a lot of shit that happens in the life of people that might cause them to do this ... especially in the gambling world.

I know you mean good .. I can feel it, but dude, with gambling + btc. It can easily be scam central. Whether it's planned or not!

Oh, and you mentioned that you were never once burned on 2p2. Could very well be true, but you gotta look at this as a scalable opportunity. Like, if Joe Shhhmooe comes in and wants to bet. You need to protect his money. That's how I'm looking at it.