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May 18, 2014, 05:20:50 PM
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Both paypal and ebay have been banning accounts for months if you had anything to do with bitcoin.

I personally had over 5,000 held by paypal and had to refund 50+ orders on ebay back in December 2013.

Now both Paypal and Ebay are trying to add bitcoin.

Paypal has already tired to get patent for btc wallets and ebay filed for a patent for auctions with BTC back in June of 2013. So all the blocking of accounts was just to slow down competitors from growing too big too fast.

Seems to me that they where just trying to kill any competitors while they where small.

I propose we pull together and  show Paypal and Ebay that they can't getaway with holding us down while they get ready.

I spoke with both paypal and ebay back in December when they where blocking my accounts, and they assured me that they would never ever even consider adding BTC. I also told them that I would organize a class action and Boycott if I found out that they where just trying to kill to competitors. 


You cant compete with their bankroll for BTC development, but you had a head start on them, and they took that away from you to hold you down. Don't let them get away with it.
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May 18, 2014, 05:31:29 PM
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there are already tons of people who hate ebay/paypal.. if you google up "paypal complaint" you'll see tons of them. nothing will likely happen.

this is why i try to avoid using paypal as much as i often can.
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May 18, 2014, 05:36:07 PM
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I think this is losing battle. People hate PayPal but you're not going to win a war of attrition against their legal team.
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May 18, 2014, 05:52:30 PM
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i think the only way to flip them the bird is just to stop using the services, at least as much as possible. if you rely on them to make money, then do it.. people need to earn a living. but try to avoid using them whenever possible, and respectfully tell other people how fucked up they are.

otherwise, you can't do shit to goliath when you are just a david.
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May 18, 2014, 05:58:09 PM
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Seems to me that they where just trying to kill any competitors while they where small.
The only thing a capitalist hates more than a communist is a competitor.

you can't do shit to goliath when you are just a david.
Unless there are 30 goliaths and 3 billion davids...

Remember Aaron Swartz, a 26 year old computer scientist who died defending the free flow of information.
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May 18, 2014, 06:04:33 PM
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you can't do shit to goliath when you are just a david.
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Unless there are 30 goliaths and 3 billion davids...

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May 18, 2014, 06:10:15 PM
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Seems to me that they where just trying to kill any competitors while they where small.
The only thing a capitalist hates more than a communist is a competitor.

you can't do shit to goliath when you are just a david.
Unless there are 30 goliaths and 3 billion davids...

well, so far those 30 goliaths are winning and the 3 billion davids have had their voices reduced.. because those 30 goliaths have much, much more money, organization and influence than 3 billion davids.
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May 18, 2014, 06:38:33 PM
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It only took 1 David to beat Goliath
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May 18, 2014, 07:11:28 PM
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It only took 1 David to beat Goliath

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May 18, 2014, 08:04:44 PM
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Genius
Accurate statement.

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May 18, 2014, 08:21:33 PM
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Seems to me that they where just trying to kill any competitors while they where small.
The only thing a capitalist hates more than a communist is a competitor.

you can't do shit to goliath when you are just a david.
Unless there are 30 goliaths and 3 billion davids...

well, so far those 30 goliaths are winning and the 3 billion davids have had their voices reduced.. because those 30 goliaths have much, much more money, organization and influence than 3 billion davids.

Your statement reminded me of this vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2OIt1w7Sas

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May 18, 2014, 08:37:24 PM
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Both paypal and ebay have been banning accounts for months if you had anything to do with bitcoin.

I personally had over 5,000 held by paypal and had to refund 50+ orders on ebay back in December 2013.

Now both Paypal and Ebay are trying to add bitcoin.

Paypal has already tired to get patent for btc wallets and ebay filed for a patent for auctions with BTC back in June of 2013. So all the blocking of accounts was just to slow down competitors from growing too big too fast.

Seems to me that they where just trying to kill any competitors while they where small.

I propose we pull together and  show Paypal and Ebay that they can't getaway with holding us down while they get ready.

I spoke with both paypal and ebay back in December when they where blocking my accounts, and they assured me that they would never ever even consider adding BTC. I also told them that I would organize a class action and Boycott if I found out that they where just trying to kill to competitors. 


You cant compete with their bankroll for BTC development, but you had a head start on them, and they took that away from you to hold you down. Don't let them get away with it.

Why even make such a stupid post if you didn't already start doing something about it. Sounds like you want someone else to do the work for you. This isn't going anywhere because you're not serious. Just delete this, big words mean nothing. Actions over words.
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May 18, 2014, 08:53:07 PM
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Both paypal and ebay have been banning accounts for months if you had anything to do with bitcoin.

I personally had over 5,000 held by paypal and had to refund 50+ orders on ebay back in December 2013.

Now both Paypal and Ebay are trying to add bitcoin.

Paypal has already tired to get patent for btc wallets and ebay filed for a patent for auctions with BTC back in June of 2013. So all the blocking of accounts was just to slow down competitors from growing too big too fast.

Seems to me that they where just trying to kill any competitors while they where small.

I propose we pull together and  show Paypal and Ebay that they can't getaway with holding us down while they get ready.

I spoke with both paypal and ebay back in December when they where blocking my accounts, and they assured me that they would never ever even consider adding BTC. I also told them that I would organize a class action and Boycott if I found out that they where just trying to kill to competitors. 


You cant compete with their bankroll for BTC development, but you had a head start on them, and they took that away from you to hold you down. Don't let them get away with it.

Why even make such a stupid post if you didn't already start doing something about it. Sounds like you want someone else to do the work for you. This isn't going anywhere because you're not serious. Just delete this, big words mean nothing. Actions over words.

Requesting to wait a few more days for the action...

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May 18, 2014, 08:57:18 PM
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Both paypal and ebay have been banning accounts for months if you had anything to do with bitcoin.

I personally had over 5,000 held by paypal and had to refund 50+ orders on ebay back in December 2013.

Now both Paypal and Ebay are trying to add bitcoin.

Paypal has already tired to get patent for btc wallets and ebay filed for a patent for auctions with BTC back in June of 2013. So all the blocking of accounts was just to slow down competitors from growing too big too fast.

Seems to me that they where just trying to kill any competitors while they where small.

I propose we pull together and  show Paypal and Ebay that they can't getaway with holding us down while they get ready.

I spoke with both paypal and ebay back in December when they where blocking my accounts, and they assured me that they would never ever even consider adding BTC. I also told them that I would organize a class action and Boycott if I found out that they where just trying to kill to competitors. 


You cant compete with their bankroll for BTC development, but you had a head start on them, and they took that away from you to hold you down. Don't let them get away with it.

Why even make such a stupid post if you didn't already start doing something about it. Sounds like you want someone else to do the work for you. This isn't going anywhere because you're not serious. Just delete this, big words mean nothing. Actions over words.



I have been emailing class action lawyers all morning. I am even planing to place a retainer out of my own funds. We will wait for a week or two to let word spread of what we are doing.

You underestimate me and just how far I'm willing to take this. It's ok if none of you join up with me. I will fight for you anyway even if I have to do it alone. I am not afraid to stand up for whats right.

We cannot allow new startups of be suppressed by the big players.

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May 18, 2014, 11:31:05 PM
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Seems to me that they where just trying to kill any competitors while they where small.
The only thing a capitalist hates more than a communist is a competitor.
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 Not exactly accurate.

 It's merely unfettered capitalist otherwise known as Capitalist Pigs that hates a competitor.

 And exactly why this is the 2nd Gilded Age of Fraud & Greed - Gone Insane.


 But yes: J Paul Getty believed that competition was a Sin. Standard Oil Empire was finally broken apart after he ruined many a business competitor.

 Bill Gates allegedly did much the same things to many a tech competitor as well.

 As have many other Business giants.

 All to the severe harm of our current mess and standards of living.



 Of course the short term is: Pig.


 And then they think they can buy their way into Heavens Gates by giving much away before.after they die.

 Say hello to the Big Devil Bill, and J. Paul is waiting to welcome you! That is if those stories are true.

 It's the same for Big Oil, Big Auto, and Big Everything else these days. And why so many are unemployed, or under-employed or making peanuts. It's tough to survive any real small business, or even start-up most small enterprises without lot's of Capital, and even then half fail within 2 years time.

 Welcome to Bankster/Corporate Fascism.


 Where the Big Queens Bailout themselves and send everyone else the bills.


 Where they Socialize all their losses and Privatize all their Bailouts.

 And then have the nerve to call this "socialism" after 15.3 Trillion in FED bailouts, backstops and Guarantees. And that doesn't count risk free trillions for merely parking Bank deposits at the FED that were loaned to them at next to nothing interest rates.

 Yea, yea, Capitalism, Wrong.


 We used to toss the crooks in Jail for a long time. Seize their Banks, Put them in Receivership, Straighten out the messes, liquidate their assets, pay off the debts, and move forward.

 Now were back to the 2nd Gilded Age because of dumbed down stupid programmed obedient worker slaves too dumb to know their getting butt fucked from cradle to grave. Oops their goes your health care coverage, oops there goes your pension just before you retire. Oops there went your IRA and 401k Nationalized to pay government debts. Oops...there went your tech jobs to China, India, Malaysia, or anywhere Bill Gates, Apple, Google, etc. can find them.

 Capitalism...long since dead and buried.


 You young one's will never know how great the 1950's through the early 1970's really were. When the top tax rate for zillionaires was 90+%. Suckers...



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May 19, 2014, 02:44:39 AM
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It needs the one right David with enough anger in his face to take down the Goliath.



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May 19, 2014, 02:55:57 AM
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I stopped using either service long before bit coin existed. I would never use paypal again for any reason. Exorbitant fees and frozen funds are their business model.

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May 19, 2014, 03:09:11 AM
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Seems to me that they where just trying to kill any competitors while they where small.
The only thing a capitalist hates more than a communist is a competitor.

you can't do shit to goliath when you are just a david.
Unless there are 30 goliaths and 3 billion davids...

well, so far those 30 goliaths are winning and the 3 billion davids have had their voices reduced.. because those 30 goliaths have much, much more money, organization and influence than 3 billion davids.

Your statement reminded me of this vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2OIt1w7Sas


Thank you for sharing that. It really shows what we as a crypto community are up against in terms of leveling the playing field.


And not to be off topic, i never have nor will i ever use ebay/paypal.

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May 19, 2014, 03:50:12 AM
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paypal has been robbing people for years .. they must have stolen tens of millions of dollars by now. Do any of these class action suits against Paypal ever really succeed?  They are so plugged into the government and visa/mastercard ...

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May 19, 2014, 04:07:45 AM
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What exactly would are you planning to take them to court for? As far as I know they operate pretty much inside their TOS which you agree to when you sign up. As a result unless their TOS is itself illegal (which I don't think it is) then you don't really have any merit for any case. I do agree they have big issues with customer support (in particular unfair bias on Bitcoin transactions) but nonetheless I don't see what you can do about it.
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