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[primer-]

I'd also like to point out that one of the reasons - me running a rogue node - is bullshit - not even technologically doable. The coin is broken in the way it handles nodes, it connects to only one peer. I myself asked for help on connecting servers to more than one peer early after launch. Once i figured it out and changed the code i posted my node ip so others could connect and therefore limit the orphans as my node had better connectivity than 3-4 nodes available.

I for one do not think you did wrong. BUT the launch was not "fair" (which is hard to determine anyway), we are all aware of the fact that this way it would have never been really accepted by the community; hence it will relaunch.

There are still well over 2000 unique IPs belongig to AMAZON EC2, as well as around 500 unique worldwide IPs connected to my nodes. Would not say community gave up and stopped mining.

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[antonioserrano72]

i offered to build the windows wallet, no one took my offer.

I posted the Windows and Mac wallets for free, there's no need to post an offer of 1 BTC to build a Windows wallet -- it makes no sense as that is not a proper launch. There are several reasons sunny prince cancelled the launch and as original developer this is his and only his decision.

I'd also like to point out that one of the reasons - me running a rogue node - is bullshit - not even technologically doable. The coin is broken in the way it handles nodes, it connects to only one peer. I myself asked for help on connecting servers to more than one peer early after launch. Once i figured it out and changed the code i posted my node ip so others could connect and therefore limit the orphans as my node had better connectivity than 3-4 nodes available.

And why was this decision taken If I may ask?

[o3u]

i offered to build the windows wallet, no one took my offer.

I posted the Windows and Mac wallets for free, there's no need to post an offer of "1 BTC to build the Windows wallet" -- it makes no sense as that is not a proper launch. There are several reasons sunny prince cancelled the launch and as original developer this is his and only his decision.

Sorry, you have no choice but to face that this original project will start from scratch, just like all the others who happened to have mined early on (including me).

THere's nothing new, i had no blocks for the first 100 or so and i didnt get any coins, didnt even know if was getting any unorphaned until i reached the 100's... I couldnt connect to the first node either until primer- contributed his node, that's how p2p works! everyone collaborates, not WHINEs.

I asked for 1BTC was a simple number. Because for me to make an effort at 3 AM that's what it takes.

I did not need this windows wallet and i would have done it for any bounty... if these idiots stop crying.

Now that i own a lot i'd be  willing to donate to faussets, or whatever so the n00bs can get some, but not a relaunch.

I owned 30-40 % of PTS hashrate for a while during the first week or so, did that coin relaunch? no... it's one of the most successful coins.

and i don t have most of mine!!! I sold them cheap to people who cant mine.

i offered to build the windows wallet, no one took my offer.

I posted the Windows and Mac wallets for free, there's no need to post an offer of 1 BTC to build a Windows wallet -- it makes no sense as that is not a proper launch. There are several reasons sunny prince cancelled the launch and as original developer this is his and only his decision.

I'd also like to point out that one of the reasons - me running a rogue node - is bullshit - not even technologically doable. The coin is broken in the way it handles nodes, it connects to only one peer. I myself asked for help on connecting servers to more than one peer early after launch. Once i figured it out and changed the code i posted my node ip so others could connect and therefore limit the orphans as my node had better connectivity than 3-4 nodes available.

I'm not the only one who worked on this coin and is now being ripped off.

[primer-]

i offered to build the windows wallet, no one took my offer.

I posted the Windows and Mac wallets for free, there's no need to post an offer of 1 BTC to build a Windows wallet -- it makes no sense as that is not a proper launch. There are several reasons sunny prince cancelled the launch and as original developer this is his and only his decision.

I'd also like to point out that one of the reasons - me running a rogue node - is bullshit - not even technologically doable. The coin is broken in the way it handles nodes, it connects to only one peer. I myself asked for help on connecting servers to more than one peer early after launch. Once i figured it out and changed the code i posted my node ip so others could connect and therefore limit the orphans as my node had better connectivity than 3-4 nodes available.

And why was this decision taken If I may ask?

Decision to abandon project by the dev ? I guess his nodes did not have good connectivity and mined stale/orphaned blocks. No instamine - no dev.

EDIT: I'd rather donate all mined coins to a new reputable dev than work with the old incompetent dev again.

[o3u]

i offered to build the windows wallet, no one took my offer.

I posted the Windows and Mac wallets for free, there's no need to post an offer of 1 BTC to build a Windows wallet -- it makes no sense as that is not a proper launch. There are several reasons sunny prince cancelled the launch and as original developer this is his and only his decision.

I'd also like to point out that one of the reasons - me running a rogue node - is bullshit - not even technologically doable. The coin is broken in the way it handles nodes, it connects to only one peer. I myself asked for help on connecting servers to more than one peer early after launch. Once i figured it out and changed the code i posted my node ip so others could connect and therefore limit the orphans as my node had better connectivity than 3-4 nodes available.

And why was this decision taken If I may ask?

Decision to abandon project by the dev ? I guess his nodes did not have good connectivity and mined stale/orphaned blocks. No instamine - no dev.

EDIT: I'd rather donate all mined coins to a new reputable dev than work with the old incompetent dev again.

I agree,

I am still mining this coin, and i will keep a few miners up, if you're all continuing to mine this coin, don't stop, i propose we keep the premine for bounties and fair redistributions.

We can start a pool an exchange for ths coin if no one takes it, but getting screwed like this by the dev, on a coin with an otherwise nice algorithm is just unfair.

[primer-]

i offered to build the windows wallet, no one took my offer.

I posted the Windows and Mac wallets for free, there's no need to post an offer of 1 BTC to build a Windows wallet -- it makes no sense as that is not a proper launch. There are several reasons sunny prince cancelled the launch and as original developer this is his and only his decision.

I'd also like to point out that one of the reasons - me running a rogue node - is bullshit - not even technologically doable. The coin is broken in the way it handles nodes, it connects to only one peer. I myself asked for help on connecting servers to more than one peer early after launch. Once i figured it out and changed the code i posted my node ip so others could connect and therefore limit the orphans as my node had better connectivity than 3-4 nodes available.

And why was this decision taken If I may ask?

Decision to abandon project by the dev ? I guess his nodes did not have good connectivity and mined stale/orphaned blocks. No instamine - no dev.

EDIT: I'd rather donate all mined coins to a new reputable dev than work with the old incompetent dev again.

I agree,

I am still mining this coin, and i will keep a few miners up, if you're all continuing to mine this coin, don't stop, i propose we keep the premine for bounties and fair redistributions.

We can start a pool an exchange for ths coin if no one takes it, but getting screwed like this by the dev, on a coin with an otherwise nice algorithm is just unfair.

What i ask you to do is open a new bitcointalk ANN thread so we can put up source code, windows binaries, new standalone miners and a logo. As i was directly 'called out' by the dev (a criminal!!) it would be better if someone other than me opened the thread, to keep the noobs quiet.

I am willing to donate all 47k shiny coins to the development.

I am in contact with two developers and they are willing to help with the bugs and implement improvements in the original code

[laxori666]

4 - release updated source and give time (days) for the community to get binaries built and distributed, before launching with a seed node.

That makes sense but how do you do that? If you release the source and binaries can't somebody else set up a node and have others connect to him, thus starting to mine? And if you release the source without the genesis block, when you launch don't you have to add it in and thus recompile the source / make new binaries?

[Gablez]

And now it's canceled?  The relaunch should compensate those of us who mined the first time. Some people spent good money on AWS instances for this.

Very uncool.

[stompix]

And now it's canceled?  The relaunch should compensate those of us who mined the first time. Some people spent good money on AWS instances for this.

Very uncool.

Compensate for what?
You invested in a project , do you think that this a "we all make money" scheme?

You just mined the wrong coin , like I did tens of times.
Get over it.

[primer-]

And now it's canceled?  The relaunch should compensate those of us who mined the first time. Some people spent good money on AWS instances for this.

Very uncool.

Keep mining! New development team has taken over and will be posting details soon!

[TheMightyX]

And now it's canceled?  The relaunch should compensate those of us who mined the first time. Some people spent good money on AWS instances for this.

Very uncool.

Keep mining! New development team has taken over and will be posting details soon!

You've got to be fucking kidding me.
Dude... do you see what you look like to everyone else?

This launch happens, its broken by design, only a small select group of people are able to mine it.
You and a couple other people corner the market on mining power. Obviously theres not much competition.

The dev finally admits his mistake which is a positive thing for the community because it allows us to move forward.

And you and o3u don't want this relaunch to happen (remember, the one thats good for the community) because you have a controlling stake in the unfair launch that happened.

It's like theres a race, and the judge holds up his pistol, the pistol never goes off but you and some other guy start running anyway. The judge says "hey no one else was able to start you guys got an unfair head start, so we're gonna start over".
You are seriously going to say to that judge: "But I already ran all this distance! It's not fair I should have to start on the same playing field as everyone else!"

Are you guys seriously gonna be those guys?

Your complaining about wasting money on mining and you think the whole community should just give you guys a majority stake in what could become a global currency because you mined for 8 hours?

Seriously? Take a step back from this situation and try to look at it from other peoples perspective.

Its less than a day of lost mining. You wouldn't be trying to keep a corrupt system in place if you didn't have an unfair amount rewarded for that 8 hours of mining.

And please o3u don't say you "worked on this coin". You spent less than half a day mining it. Yes, lot of hard work you put into this. And your reward should be 20% of all the coins obviously!!

Chode.

[djm34]

And now it's canceled?  The relaunch should compensate those of us who mined the first time. Some people spent good money on AWS instances for this.

Very uncool.

Keep mining! New development team has taken over and will be posting details soon!

You've got to be fucking kidding me.
Dude... do you see what you look like to everyone else?

This launch happens, its broken by design, only a small select group of people are able to mine it.
You and a couple other people corner the market on mining power. Obviously theres not much competition.

The dev finally admits his mistake which is a positive thing for the community because it allows us to move forward.

And you and o3u don't want this relaunch to happen (remember, the one thats good for the community) because you have a controlling stake in the unfair launch that happened.

It's like theres a race, and the judge holds up his pistol, the pistol never goes off but you and some other guy start running anyway. The judge says "hey no one else was able to start you guys got an unfair head start, so we're gonna start over".
You are seriously going to say to that judge: "But I already ran all this distance! It's not fair I should have to start on the same playing field as everyone else!"

Are you guys seriously gonna be those guys?

Your complaining about wasting money on mining and you think the whole community should just give you guys a majority stake in what could become a global currency because you mined for 8 hours?

Seriously? Take a step back from this situation and try to look at it from other peoples perspective.

Its less than a day of lost mining. You wouldn't be trying to keep a corrupt system in place if you didn't have an unfair amount rewarded for that 8 hours of mining.

And please o3u don't say you "worked on this coin". You spent less than half a day mining it. Yes, lot of hard work you put into this. And your reward should be 20% of all the coins obviously!!

Chode.

+1
However, I don't think there is any point arguing with these guys. Let them make "their" coin (so that will keep them busy) while a real "fair" launch can happen. (actually it would be even better this way... divorce is sometimes a good thing)

[kov]

Dev, how do you intend to compensate those people that were prepared for your launch and are now being unduly penalized because of your incompetence?

Compensate for what?
You invested in a project , do you think that this a "we all make money" scheme?

You just mined the wrong coin , like I did tens of times.
Get over it.

So what, make sure to reward the people that aren't savvy enough to set up a the most basic linux instance with nothing more than a compiled wallet? That information is EASILY found online. Maybe people should take 2 minutes to do a little research instead of hoping everything will be spoon fed to them.

Keep mining! New development team has taken over and will be posting details soon!

Good for you guys. I'll be sticking with you. The original dev obviously has no idea what he's doing. The only thing he did right was release the wallet on time.

[billotronic]

New ANN will be posted shortly on bitcointalk - 2 developers interested in providing support, keep mining people !

lol buddy, its over. I'm sorry you through money at this but you are flogging a dead horse.

EDIT: Oh, I see you've had trouble compiling the wallet last night, better switch back to winblows and leave linux mining to the experts.

lol is that meant to be you then? I wont stoop to calling you names or stating the obvious character flaws you have in abundance... Nope, good ol fashioned ignore is all is needed for someone like you. Have a nice day.

[o3u]

And now it's canceled?  The relaunch should compensate those of us who mined the first time. Some people spent good money on AWS instances for this.

Very uncool.

Keep mining! New development team has taken over and will be posting details soon!

You've got to be fucking kidding me.
Dude... do you see what you look like to everyone else?

This launch happens, its broken by design, only a small select group of people are able to mine it.
You and a couple other people corner the market on mining power. Obviously theres not much competition.

The dev finally admits his mistake which is a positive thing for the community because it allows us to move forward.

And you and o3u don't want this relaunch to happen (remember, the one thats good for the community) because you have a controlling stake in the unfair launch that happened.

It's like theres a race, and the judge holds up his pistol, the pistol never goes off but you and some other guy start running anyway. The judge says "hey no one else was able to start you guys got an unfair head start, so we're gonna start over".
You are seriously going to say to that judge: "But I already ran all this distance! It's not fair I should have to start on the same playing field as everyone else!"

Are you guys seriously gonna be those guys?

Your complaining about wasting money on mining and you think the whole community should just give you guys a majority stake in what could become a global currency because you mined for 8 hours?

Seriously? Take a step back from this situation and try to look at it from other peoples perspective.

Its less than a day of lost mining. You wouldn't be trying to keep a corrupt system in place if you didn't have an unfair amount rewarded for that 8 hours of mining.

And please o3u don't say you "worked on this coin". You spent less than half a day mining it. Yes, lot of hard work you put into this. And your reward should be 20% of all the coins obviously!!

Chode.

primer- and i have already said we would use our mined coins to make this project better, the dev clearly did not work on the marketing of this coin.

We can do that.

The development as well will be funded with these coins. This coin has great potential, but is still unheard of, a relaunch is gonna be just as bad if it's the same dev doing it.

edit: i had to fight throught he bugs and not know what's going on for the first few hundred blocks, but after that i started finding blocks, and so i will donate these to the bounty fund.

[Wolffish]

And now it's canceled?  The relaunch should compensate those of us who mined the first time. Some people spent good money on AWS instances for this.

Very uncool.

Keep mining! New development team has taken over and will be posting details soon!

You've got to be fucking kidding me.
Dude... do you see what you look like to everyone else?

This launch happens, its broken by design, only a small select group of people are able to mine it.
You and a couple other people corner the market on mining power. Obviously theres not much competition.

The dev finally admits his mistake which is a positive thing for the community because it allows us to move forward.

And you and o3u don't want this relaunch to happen (remember, the one thats good for the community) because you have a controlling stake in the unfair launch that happened.

It's like theres a race, and the judge holds up his pistol, the pistol never goes off but you and some other guy start running anyway. The judge says "hey no one else was able to start you guys got an unfair head start, so we're gonna start over".
You are seriously going to say to that judge: "But I already ran all this distance! It's not fair I should have to start on the same playing field as everyone else!"

Are you guys seriously gonna be those guys?

Your complaining about wasting money on mining and you think the whole community should just give you guys a majority stake in what could become a global currency because you mined for 8 hours?

Seriously? Take a step back from this situation and try to look at it from other peoples perspective.

Its less than a day of lost mining. You wouldn't be trying to keep a corrupt system in place if you didn't have an unfair amount rewarded for that 8 hours of mining.

And please o3u don't say you "worked on this coin". You spent less than half a day mining it. Yes, lot of hard work you put into this. And your reward should be 20% of all the coins obviously!!

Chode.

+1

I really hope to see new launch in this or next month.  Please give some time to dev to fix things!

And you, primer- & o3u, get da fuck out of here!!!!

[o3u]

+1

I really hope to see new launch in this or next month.  Please give some time to dev to fix things!

And you, primer- & o3u, get da fuck out of here!!!!

I see that everyone's problem is with the initial node not having enough connections, yes, that is a failure in the launch because one person (unfortunately not me) was able to get the first blocks and block out the rest of the people.

However, i was willing to accept that that is part of the game. You guys are all greedy, so am i, and so is whoever got there first and hogged all connexions to the seed node.

The difference is, while you were whinning and not cooperating (i posted askng people to join IRC to discuss this) I continued and kept on trying until i could get blocks,

For the dev, yes it's a bad decision to have short block time but that's something you should know if you're going to make a coin.

Yes, it's a bad decision as well to only have one seed node, and yes it's a bad decision to disappear right after pushing the code to github!

But these mistakes are what make the coin more fair for those who REALLY want to mine it. BEcause we actually persist instead of whining. and it's a shame anyone would complain about not having access to linux, it's widely available from digitalocean to whatever free shell host online. Stop crying. Winblowz is not free/available.

There's nothing i can do now to convince you the longest/oldest blockchain is the best and i've stopped mining the first shinycoin mostly, but  i hope you will not keep me or the others in the dark for the next launch.... and add a link below here, i really like this algo and hope to mine it.

[crimealone]

A relaunch is a better decision.

[kov]

WTS: 22k SHC


 

[o3u]

WTS: 22k SHC


 

Lol

WTS: original block chain Shiny coin,

170k SHC for 10 BTC.