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January 30, 2012, 02:09:59 PM
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They wanted to drug test welfare recipients and cancel their benefits if they are found to be under the influence, but when it comes to drug testing the lawmakers themselves, the pillars of justice and the protectors of our freedoms and liberties, its a completely different story. Apparently, the little people shouldnt do drugs but its ok for the big lawmakers we trust. My question is who should we hold to the highest possible standards?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/01/27/welfare-drug-testing-bill_n_1237333.html

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January 30, 2012, 02:31:07 PM
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Did you read the article?  The delay is procedural and the bill is coming back today.

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January 30, 2012, 03:45:51 PM
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Did you read the article?  The delay is procedural and the bill is coming back today.

I think that reason is smoke and mirrors... Proceedural... Right. I believe it boils down to lawmakers not wanting to be under the same rules as the average citizen. Just look at the supreme court ruling for the drug testing for political candidates as unconstitutional, but the average citizen cant get a "decent" job anywhere today without one... even government jobs like those lawmakers. IF this bill comes back with mandates for anyone accepting public funds to undergo drug tests, you can be your last dollar there will be severe limitations based on some bastardized version of "probable cause" required, and certainly it will not be a blanket requirement, requiring all of them to undergo drug testing to get on the ballot, be elected, take controll of the office, or to keep the office if already in office. After all they are a different class of citizen and not the average slave like you and I.

I have my own problems with the drug war, but thats here nor there. Whats needed is consistency with everyone treated equally under the law. Not different rules and laws depending on your class or job description.

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"... history disseminated to the masses is written by those who win battles and wars and murder their heroes ..."


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January 30, 2012, 10:17:24 PM
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this will never go through
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January 31, 2012, 12:00:04 AM
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What I want to know is how this would affect aid recipients' ability to use medical cannabis? Obama said he wasn't going to fuck with state's rights regarding it, but alas, dispensaries in California (most poorly written cannabis law in the 15 states that have them) and Colorado (most solid cannabis law of those 15) are getting cease and desist letters from the DEA and getting raided damn near daily.

Typical federal government...kicking the most down-and-out...

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January 31, 2012, 06:25:54 PM
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What I want to know is how this would affect aid recipients' ability to use medical cannabis? Obama said he wasn't going to fuck with state's rights regarding it, but alas, dispensaries in California (most poorly written cannabis law in the 15 states that have them) and Colorado (most solid cannabis law of those 15) are getting cease and desist letters from the DEA and getting raided damn near daily.

Typical federal government...kicking the most down-and-out...

When you put into the context the fact that the federal government and banking interests participates in the drug trade and drug money laundering, its makes much more sense... They are not getting their cut.

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January 31, 2012, 06:31:52 PM
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Did you read the article?  The delay is procedural and the bill is coming back today.

I think that reason is smoke and mirrors... Proceedural... Right. I believe it boils down to lawmakers not wanting to be under the same rules as the average citizen. Just look at the supreme court ruling for the drug testing for political candidates as unconstitutional, but the average citizen cant get a "decent" job anywhere today without one... even government jobs like those lawmakers. IF this bill comes back with mandates for anyone accepting public funds to undergo drug tests, you can be your last dollar there will be severe limitations based on some bastardized version of "probable cause" required, and certainly it will not be a blanket requirement, requiring all of them to undergo drug testing to get on the ballot, be elected, take controll of the office, or to keep the office if already in office. After all they are a different class of citizen and not the average slave like you and I.

I have my own problems with the drug war, but thats here nor there. Whats needed is consistency with everyone treated equally under the law. Not different rules and laws depending on your class or job description.
+1, agree 100%.  It's amazing how many perks Congressmen get that aren't given to "normal folk".  They can't even relate anymore... like you said, they are a different class of citizen entirely.
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January 31, 2012, 06:39:06 PM
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In related news:

Janet Howell, Virginia State Senator, Attaches Rectal Exam Amendment To Anti-Abortion Bill
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/30/mandatory-ultrasound-bill-virginia-anti-abortion_n_1242627.html

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January 31, 2012, 07:08:03 PM
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In related news:

Janet Howell, Virginia State Senator, Attaches Rectal Exam Amendment To Anti-Abortion Bill
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/30/mandatory-ultrasound-bill-virginia-anti-abortion_n_1242627.html


the truly funny (weird) part is the amendment failed by a scant 21 to 19 vote!

probably along party lines

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