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May 23, 2014, 01:18:07 AM
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I'll stay with the main thread after this. But I got something to say.

 One. There is a small but vocal group on this site that will cry "scam" if someone states that the sun rises in the East. I'm looking at you, Hippie Tech/Amenstop, whatever you're calling yourself these days. You ain't the worst, but you are part of the "it's a scam no matter what" brigade.

Two. coin developers with no premine probably have an agenda or a hidden premine. See AsiaCoin, SHAcoin... I don't trust a developer who isn't actively trying to make a buck off of his creation. Call me crazy if you like, but capitalism works, unlike EVERY other economic system ever conceived.

Three. If you don't like a coin, so fucking what? Somebody will. Value is subjective. I actually like Sync, but I suspect it will be short lived. I hope I'm wrong, but the coin I believe in longterm is Bitcoin. The one that I have more faith in than the rest combined other than bitcoin is TEK. But you never know. DOGE comes to mind whenever I feel the urge to dismiss a coin utterly.

Four. Why go into attack dog mode on a dev for a TINY premine in the first place? Ask, sure, but do it politely. There's no reason to see this as a scam that I can see. A shot in the dark, maybe, but not a scam.

Five. GROW A LIFE, Trolls in general. Nobody cares if you feel good. In fact, most of you make us wish horrible things on you. Not because of what you say, but how you say it.


lol, loved it

not like he'll ever care though
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May 23, 2014, 05:43:01 AM
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This is OUR crytpo revolution.



i'm sorry to have to point this out, but you seem to have borderline personality disorder(s) and delusions of grandeur.

please seek medical advice.



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May 23, 2014, 08:08:40 AM
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Is this coin dead already  Shocked  no confirmations, no transactions, no trade... nothing!  

Guys in moderated topic are "so to da moon" mode  Grin only talking about pump!  Also how "exclusive" that coin is! Although that shitcoin blockchain even don't work!
I bet they even don't noticed that...

Oh... my...
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May 23, 2014, 10:38:00 AM
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I'll stay with the main thread after this. But I got something to say.

 One. There is a small but vocal group on this site that will cry "scam" if someone states that the sun rises in the East. I'm looking at you, Hippie Tech/Amenstop, whatever you're calling yourself these days. You ain't the worst, but you are part of the "it's a scam no matter what" brigade.

Two. coin developers with no premine probably have an agenda or a hidden premine. See AsiaCoin, SHAcoin... I don't trust a developer who isn't actively trying to make a buck off of his creation. Call me crazy if you like, but capitalism works, unlike EVERY other economic system ever conceived.

Three. If you don't like a coin, so fucking what? Somebody will. Value is subjective. I actually like Sync, but I suspect it will be short lived. I hope I'm wrong, but the coin I believe in longterm is Bitcoin. The one that I have more faith in than the rest combined other than bitcoin is TEK. But you never know. DOGE comes to mind whenever I feel the urge to dismiss a coin utterly.

Four. Why go into attack dog mode on a dev for a TINY premine in the first place? Ask, sure, but do it politely. There's no reason to see this as a scam that I can see. A shot in the dark, maybe, but not a scam.

Five. GROW A LIFE, Trolls in general. Nobody cares if you feel good. In fact, most of you make us wish horrible things on you. Not because of what you say, but how you say it.

1 - If the toilet paper sticks, its a shitcoin.

2 - ANY dev should be considered as highly suspect until they prove themselves. This takes time. NOT MONEY.

3 - Do you have any fucking idea how much we, the miners and investors have been ripped off by these maggots ? Obviously not.

4 - 5 or 10 SYNC is not "tiny". Since you really think that way...  sell 5-10 SYNC and give the BTC to Sean's Outpost. Smiley  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=295211.0

5 - We will stop trolling shitcoins if/when you greedy, "I'm gonna create money out of nothing just like the banks" bastards, stop supporting them.

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May 23, 2014, 10:43:44 AM
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Is this coin dead already  Shocked  no confirmations, no transactions, no trade... nothing!  

Guys in moderated topic are "so to da moon" mode  Grin only talking about pump!  Also how "exclusive" that coin is! Although that shitcoin blockchain even don't work!
I bet they even don't noticed that...

Oh... my...

Has anyone confirmed that the premine was actually 10 SYNC ?

Then there is this distinct possiblity...

"42 and Descendents Have Unlimited Coin Supply Hardcoded"
Introduction

With a market capitalization ranking of 61[1], the coin "42"[2] is advertised as the "Highest Priced Crypto Coin Ever"[3]. This high price is attributed to the coin's rarity, which is advertised to be limited to 42 total coins. Unfortunately, it looks like 42 coin and descendents thereof (like 8 coin) do not cap the money supply at the advertised number of coin. In fact, unlike most cryptocoins, the money supply of 42 appears to be unlimited.

Money Generation

In bitcoin and most descendents the money supply is capped algorithmically in the function that calculates the mining subsidy. This function is called GetBlockValue() in the source file "main.cpp". In the bitcoin code base, the source for this function is:

Code:
int64_t GetBlockValue(int nHeight, int64_t nFees)
{
    int64_t nSubsidy = 50 * COIN;

    // Subsidy is cut in half every 210,000 blocks which will occur approximately every 4 years.
    nSubsidy >>= (nHeight / Params().SubsidyHalvingInterval());

    return nSubsidy + nFees;
}

Here, the subsidy is halved for each "halving interval", measured in blocks (although the calculation is obfuscated somewhat for the sake of computational efficiency). It can be proven[4] that if all halving intervals are the same length (210,000), then the maximum amount of bitcoin ever produced will be

    21,000,000 = 2 * 50 * 210,000

42 (and probably several descendants, such as Cool uses a GetBlockValue() function like the following, taken from the 42 code base:

Code:
int64 static GetBlockValue(int nHeight, int64 nFees)
{
    int64 nSubsidy = 0.000042 * COIN;
    if(nHeight < 419)
    {
       nSubsidy = 0.0000001 * COIN;
}
    if(nHeight == 1)
    {
       nSubsidy = 0.42 * COIN;
}
    if(nHeight == 420) // yay its 420 :) Time for a smoke
    {
       nSubsidy = 0.00042 * COIN;
}
    if(nHeight == 4242)
    {
       nSubsidy = 0.00042 * COIN;
}
    if(nHeight == 42424)
    {
       nSubsidy = 0.00042 * COIN;
}
    if(nHeight == 424242)
    {
       nSubsidy = 0.00042 * COIN;
}
    if(nHeight == 4242424)
    {
       nSubsidy = 0.00042 * COIN;
}
    return nSubsidy + nFees;
}

Except in a few cases (blocks 1-420, 4242, 42424, ...) all blocks will have the same reward of 0.000042 coin (ignoring fees). Notice that the 42 version of GetBlockValue() has no halving interval and makes no attempt to curtail coin generation at the advertised maximum of 42 coin. Without a geometrically decreasing reward value, the money supply will grow indefinitely.

For 42, the advertised coin maximum of 42 coin will be produced before block 1,000,000 (42 / 0.000042), or in about 1.33 years. But the existing 42 code makes no provision to stop coin production at that time.

MAX_MONEY

One part of the code for most cryptocoins that may be confusing to developers is the MAX_MONEY constant in the source file called "main.h". MAX_MONEY has two uses in the 42 code: (1) as a sentinel return value (which won't be discussed) and (2) to check some transaction values to ensure that they make sense. For the latter purpose, MAX_MONEY is used in the inline function called MoneyRange() in the "main.h" file:

Code:
inline bool MoneyRange(int64 nValue) { return (nValue >= 0 && nValue <= MAX_MONEY); }

This function simply checks to ensure that a value is not negative and does not exceed MAX_MONEY. Nowhere in the 42 codebase is MAX_MONEY checked against a sum of the balances of all accounts, which would require the computationally expensive task of either (1) calculating every account balance in the block chain and then adding them up, or (2) summing the coinbase (money generating) transactions over all blocks. The running total of money supply is not explicitly kept in the block chain.

The MoneyRange() function is used a few times in the 42 code. An arbitrary example is checking the the sanity of a transaction, as in the CTransaction::CheckTransaction() function within "main.cpp":

Code:
if (!MoneyRange(nValueOut))
            return DoS(100, error("CTransaction::CheckTransaction() : txout total out of range"));

Nowhere in the code for 42 does is MoneyRange() used to validate the total money supply of 42.



Notes:

[1] http://coinmarketcap.com/
[2] My screen name, tx42, is unrelated to 42 coin.
[3] http://www.42coin.org/
[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1/2_%2B_1/4_%2B_1/8_%2B_1/16_%2B_%E2%8B%AF



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May 23, 2014, 12:53:06 PM
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It's not a revolution at all.
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May 23, 2014, 05:04:39 PM
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Wanna thank Hippie Tech  for a good reading about "rare" coins supply and coin generation!
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May 23, 2014, 08:23:12 PM
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Sorry, just can't help myself -  had to post it  Cheesy

SYN & SYNC like twins, so cute!

SYNC "dev":
ANN

If you are not generating coins is because of low balance, buy more at the exchange and all the nodes are on the new version



No comments for that  Shocked
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May 24, 2014, 03:12:08 PM
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SYNC "dev":
ANN

If you are not generating coins is because of low balance, buy more at the exchange and all the nodes are on the new version



No comments for that  Shocked

Thx but tx42 deserves all the credit for this.

Any guesses as to how long it took Hendo420 to "fix" it ? lol...

Now he is openly promoting the ponzi scheme..  "shakes head"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

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A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned by the operator. Operators of Ponzi schemes usually entice new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent. The perpetuation of the high returns requires an ever-increasing flow of money from new investors to sustain the scheme.

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July 04, 2014, 10:06:07 AM
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I am not having any problems whatsoever with sync.
The wallet is syncing quickly (just as well!), and the staking is working perfectly.
I wish HoboNickels was so easy! Grin


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July 04, 2014, 12:52:54 PM
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I am not having any problems whatsoever with sync.
The wallet is syncing quickly (just as well!), and the staking is working perfectly.
I wish HoboNickels was so easy! Grin


What other scams are you involved in ? Roll Eyes

Horus is the hobo. Shocked

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July 04, 2014, 12:55:17 PM
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As expected the facts are once again being ignored.

umm...

Pardon the delay ..  I've been quite busy with other things. Here is what I've learned thus far...

NOTE: These screenshots were taken on June 24 2014.

The blockchain exploer makes it impossible to track the addys and their respective TXs.


Block Explorer is BS. Their is no method to find your address, either by matching amount or otherwise. It simply does not work

Block 1 The premine is a 5 SYNC TX fee. Huh




Block 2 This time we have a 2nd 5 SYNC TX fee plus 5 more showing as "total output".



- The original premine addy shows 10.05xxx SYNC.



After much ado, this new addy is posted as 'proof' that the remaining 2.5ish coins were still in the dev's possesion. As you can see, this number grew to 8.38 SYNC by June 24.

Plz make note of this addy's creation date/time. Wink



Here is where and when MsCollec bought back the 2.5 SYNC premine. The 3 buys easily stand out as there was little to no volume.








He is manipulating the SYNC and VOOT markets by using the premine/IPO and isn't being too shy about it. DO NOT TRUST !!


700K voot was sold last week, not at once but over a period of 2-3 days i think.  Please stop over-reacting 700k will not hurt voot vol of  7788832.23478840 VOOT

Guys chill the fuck out.

Selling 700k VOOT is not a problem...

Let MsCollec do what she needs to fund the development. I don't give a flying fuck if its in VOOT, BTC, or monopoly money! The outcome will be the same, we want a services performed and were going to pay whatever they want us to pay them in.

End of story, quit crying.

Good for you but you are a moron then.

I'm sorry but you are the moron if you believe 700k VOOT is going to bring down this market.  You obviously are a peon.

Maybe.  We'll see. Apologies for calling you a moron am just fed up with developers and team members who are clueless but please don't continue this practice it will only scare off investors in the end.

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July 04, 2014, 12:57:16 PM
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The new block explorer seems to have rewritten the blockchain. lol

I will release the date for the hard fork of interest halving very soon.

How about dates and rates?  Can we know those now?

It will be decreasing from 100% every month. just like regular block rewards halving.

You're just making things up as you go. Tongue

The new block explorer's blocks 1, 2 and the original premine addy do not match with the previous block explorer.

Block 1 - old


Block 1 - new 
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/sync/block.dws?000005b1dabaff2faedc68817a46667ea8ee97df371348580ee9596c99506da8.htm



Yet the 10 SYNC remains visible in Block 2's TX seen here.



You ditched the suspicious 5 SYNC TX fees and sent 5 coins to "N/A". lol This makes you the best noob dev EVVVEERRRR. Tongue

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