I did not know.

[NoLimitCrypto]

I did not know that when I came to this forum with the understanding it issued loans, that is was more mentally damaged than me presuming that everyone who comes here is a pedophile a criminal or drug addict hard drugs your unnecciary pill use etc crack and looking to scam. I was not under presumption it was this bad that when I joined and asked for a loan I would be picked apart for what I thought was neccisary to expose to get this loan I posted for and to be upfront and truthful cause thats what I thought it took.

I offered my vps overall details with my bitcoin poker site that has bitcoin integration Social Security number, State Id and would of shown birth ceritficate if neccisary or even go on cam to show the missing teeth. And give access to my rushcard and further screenshots I get a deposit spanning back far 8/ proving I can repay the loan in a 3 to 5 month window if they worked with me.

Initially being a proud man having just a little bit of shame. I offered and needed a loan for my website for marketing and seo services etc, Or to sell half ownership. And like I really didnt want to bring up my teeth but this guy made a point to say im a fake and scammer. That nothing i was offering is collateral when techincally i have thousands of dollars of php work done. But yet a person having a copy of my vps details my social security number all my info access to everything they needed. After all that I'm a liar he sais. Didn't know what to do. So i posted a thread with the reason why i started poker site well part.

Then after he won that from me which most of the time people in life do. I went ahead and posted a loan for my teeth to get fixed. This mother fucker then again gets at me say im a fake scammer. And then other followers chimed in saying ohh well you guys ever notice non scammers dont get offended play it cool. Well im not regular or a scammer the things that were said to me are beyond malicious and i over reacted but not without merit, I was shot down for 1 true loan application in the first thread cause this kid has social pull. I desperately did not want to talk about my fucking personal life or teeth. This is why i wanted to get bougth out for half of poker site or recieve loan to get started, and then eventually down the line id get on my body fixed and put the money down no questions asked. Then im made to feel bad about myself cause I want to be somewhat of a normal person that I dont deserve these things to happen. I get it you won't loan but the persistence is not fair. And then im told I have this heir about me that i deserve these things from other people. Umm no lets get this straight i never asked for anythign free and despite me having an over 10 inch penis which I can prove you would not believe the lack of self confidence i have for someone in my position. I will not do pornography professionally to make money, I have thought about it but it would be too much on me and my family. Id much rather have a wife 8/.

I did everything right though in my head I offered stake in my website equity, and collateral to hold onto my server and all my gov info but yet thats not enough for this dude and going ahead and ruining what maybe a few were thinking about doing.


Also these asshoels say ohh you made mistake gettign poker shit than you rteeth. no poker shit was cheaper and can help get the teeth.< But I didnt bring that up for nothing. If the mods want to look up a name onemanorgy and recently it asked to delete a post made in march to sell my mavens 4 gold software here alogn with server and domain for 400 dollars cheaper than what i paid. If im wrong post im wrong if not don't post.

So really im right all the way through. I did the right thing even before the right thing can be broguth up in my face.


I'm angered. SO if these 2 gentlemen want to shoot me an address or want my address I will go, knock them out, then some faces are gonna get eaten with what teeth I do have left.

[BadBear]

tl:dr Newbie wanting 4k dollar loan gets mad.

[NoLimitCrypto]

it's not that. Was picked part for exposing the truth somethign I thought was neccissary in a loan.

You never saw anyone say no or no can't do it right now, one guy said no but was helpful and posted a link to a dental care company. That was thoughtful, but yea you totally see me at war with that dude who was polite and tried to help.

Today I actually asked to be bought out for half 2.5 bitcoin, then them lying saying you can get a site for 2 here when the auction starts at 4, straight fucking clown idiots.

[NoLimitCrypto]

tl:dr Newbie wanting 4k dollar loan gets mad.

atleast you called me newb and not scammer 

[koshgel]

Did you have collateral? Probably not.

That's how they work at lending and no amount of crying will change that.

[NoLimitCrypto]

putting up my server again with 1000's of dollars in php integration sure thats not collateral at all.
2.5 bitcoin for half partnership isn't bad they would own half of mavens and half the php integration for bitcoin, And say if they did run 2.5 would my my while.

[Kluge]

Without extreme reputation (and often even with), loans are all about collateral, and you'll need to offer up something like 150-200% equiv, with something not particularly easy to sell taking a 50-95% hit in valuation for lenders (where their skillset and investment profile probably doesn't cross over to running or selling poker sites). The lending subforum is practically a digital pawn shop, so if a pawn operator wouldn't offer you much for it, a lender in the subforum here probably wouldn't, either.

I'd guesstimate the value of a poker site being called worth 4BTC @ FMV as worth ~1BTC as collateral, which'd make up enough collateral to get you a ~.5-.75BTC loan. A rushcard is probably useless (if even familiar) to potential lenders on the subforum, so worth nothing. ID is really only useful to a lender if he thinks he can successfully sue, which then brings on a whole bunch of other restrictions (he must be in the same jurisdiction as you and preferably pretty close within that jurisdiction) and proof requirements (proof of liquid assets [which would be set aside as collateral for the loan], reputation proof that you won't go "scorched earth" to prevent court-mandated restitution). Keep in mind, lenders have no interest in hurting you (so it doesn't matter if they can spend money creating a website calling you a rat-faced scammer if you don't pay) - they just want their money back.

Fwiw. For these reasons, collateral accepted tends to only include that which is physical and liquid (PMs, "common" vehicles, mining hardware) if the lender and lendee are physically close or cryptocurrencies if not. Most wouldn't even consider physical collateral due to the added risks and time to get the loan pushed out and collected on -- escrow can solve this, but finding a mutually-trusted escrow agent near you is probably a crapshoot, too. At any rate, you'd probably have better luck going to the most unlikely source of a loan from someone physically near, like the mafia or a drug dealer. Of course, then you can start working up the chain of likelihood.... bank, co-workers, family, friends, boss.

[CaptainBeck]

Looking back over your loan forum, you were so quick to start F-ing and blinding about things.
People will not respond well to any of this, even if you are only doing it because you have some real passion (and yes getting teeth fixed would be a fire starter for anyone) but only 6 posts into a thread responding like this.

Heyu cunt fuck you, you dont know what its like missing teeth

want me to go on cam cunt and show my missing teeth cunt ?

your  ashitty fuckign student many dental jobs ruin eisting living teeth


dropout of school cunt you cant tell me and the hsit life ive had rfrom missing teeth fuckin whore

will only lose any respect people had for you. Yes Vod may have handled it better in the first place with his first post, he was still right, you were asking for alot and not really offering anything in terms of a real return. Websites are only useful collateral if it can be quickly sold. ID is only useful if the person wants to track you down, and suing over 4k will cost more than 4k in time and effort. There is also a good chance the ID is not yours (not calling you a scammer or anything but this happens on here alot)

I dont know what you really expected on here, but a community that just gives out large sums of money to a new unknown account with little to no collateral is not gonna happen. 

[NoLimitCrypto]

Without extreme reputation (and often even with), loans are all about collateral, and you'll need to offer up something like 150-200% equiv, with something not particularly easy to sell taking a 50-95% hit in valuation for lenders (where their skillset and investment profile probably doesn't cross over to running or selling poker sites). The lending subforum is practically a digital pawn shop.

I'd guesstimate the value of a poker site being called worth 4BTC @ FMV as worth ~1BTC as collateral, which'd make up enough collateral to get you a ~.5-.75BTC loan. A rushcard is probably useless (if even familiar) to potential lenders on the subforum, so worth nothing. ID is really only useful to a lender if he thinks he can successfully sue, which then brings on a whole bunch of other restrictions (he must be in the same jurisdiction as you and preferably pretty close within that jurisdiction) and proof requirements (proof of liquid assets [which would be set aside as collateral for the loan], reputation proof that you won't go "scorched earth" to prevent court-mandated restitution).

Fwiw. For these reasons, collateral accepted tends to only include that which is physical and liquid (PMs, "common" vehicles, mining hardware) if the lender and lendee are physically close or cryptocurrencies if not. Most wouldn't even consider physical collateral due to the added risks and time to get the loan pushed out and collected on -- escrow can solve this, but finding a mutually-trusted escrow agent near you is probably a crapshoot, too. At any rate, you'd probably have better luck going to the most unlikely source of a loan from someone physically near, like the mafia or a drug dealer. Of course, then you can start working up the chain of likelihood.... bank, co-workers, family, friends, boss.

This was my last effort just to kick start site or get the loan for teeth I give up, ive been let down by a whole bunch of people at seals within talks on skype, then always end up doing things myself cept for design. People agree to partnerships then want cash afte site is launched kind of extortion. Or being know shows from start talking the big shit. We can get down to brass tacks of how much of a liability I am I realize that now. And do appreciate you talking the way you are. Do raelize im new I never took loan at seals, and wont take one here, only diffference i never asked at seals for the over year ive been there and can check ive taken 0 because I don't have a gambling problem and misuse what money I do get that these people say I do, . Just whole bunch of pressure all at once that I think was unwanted people not doing what there suppose to when they agreed. A person can fuel projects on promises and wonders alone for so long till hes over extended his part or role, 90% of the people on this forum are talkers. I'm not.

It would be cool to learn php get an education stop gettign what I get make a bitcoin spades game where you can randomize the player matchings for teams to avoid collusion add bitcoin to it and make huge tourneys so many Ideas I have. I don't consider myself to bright, but everythings been a dream and a year ago i took the jung briggs meyers test I'm an infp The Dreamer. I can get things from dream to reality but can only make it's potential go so far and this falls under that.

[NoLimitCrypto]

To the OP  i can understand how you would feel angry about the feedback that was left by Vod but you must understand Vod does this to protect regular users here and he does a great job.

The Health care here in the U.S. is horrible and like you said they wouldn't cover this because it would be considered Asthetic and not needed but i think Viewing some of your posts you might be able to challenge that being Disabled and how it affects you Mentally. I don't even know you but i can tell by how angry the teeth issue affects your life with your angry posts. Don't let the comments get to you.

Ohio has some programs you can check out online for some health i won't post the links here but just google them. Remember when challenging this issue you must mention how it affects you Mentally. The SS administration might have some useful Information.

You should also think about selling that website you have in an auction here. I think your teeth would be more important to your own Mental health and your self esteem.  There are Many Escrow services here on the forum you can use for the sale.

Good Luck OP

but there again I tried sellign it in march for cheaper than what i boguth it nobody was interested. I definately deserve a poker site because i mad eit come to pass.

[RodeoX]

ANYTHING you can do with money you can do with bitcoin. There are no rules here about how to spend, loan, gamble, invest, bundle, etc. your money. 

[NoLimitCrypto]

To the OP  i can understand how you would feel angry about the feedback that was left by Vod but you must understand Vod does this to protect regular users here and he does a great job.

The Health care here in the U.S. is horrible and like you said they wouldn't cover this because it would be considered Asthetic and not needed but i think Viewing some of your posts you might be able to challenge that being Disabled and how it affects you Mentally. I don't even know you but i can tell by how angry the teeth issue affects your life with your angry posts. Don't let the comments get to you.

Ohio has some programs you can check out online for some health i won't post the links here but just google them. Remember when challenging this issue you must mention how it affects you Mentally. The SS administration might have some useful Information.

You should also think about selling that website you have in an auction here. I think your teeth would be more important to your own Mental health and your self esteem.  There are Many Escrow services here on the forum you can use for the sale.

Good Luck OP

no reasons to contact ss, they do not pay for dental implants. INfactg if i get ss its not anyones business here and I dont owe anyone any kind of money from it beucase you didnt owrk for what i get like VOD and whs said. Ill fuck vod and his faggot boyfriend up physically.  This dude nfollowed me from 1 post to the other adn he took his faggot boyfriend with him quit defenidng him you, he was wrong for what he did in 2 fuckign threads  were now fuck off im tired of taking blame. My website has bad name now cause of scammer patrol. No, real damage was done to me the site name saying im fake and  me personally beyond bullshit. EVERYONE KEEPS FUCKING MENTIONING ME ASKIGN FOR LOAN FOR TEETH LETS GO BACK TO THREAD ASKING FOR A LOAN OR TO BE BOUGTH OUT HALF EQUITY OF MY POKER SITE.


THIS MOTHER FUCKER STARTERD THERE BEFORE THE TEETH LOAN SHIT. KNOWING HOW I WOULD REACT 2ND TIME AROUND HE KEPT FUCKING POSTING IN MY 2ND THREAD. ITS LIKE YOU HOLD A STEAK IN A STARVING DOGS FACE KNOWING HELL EAT IT BUT WHY DO IT IF YOU WONT GIVE IT TO HIM. JUST TO TORTURE IT WENT PAST FUCKING SCAMMER PATROL THE KID IS JELOUS ON SOMOE SORT OF LEVEL I WILL FUCK YOUR LIFE UP. KNOWING HO I WOULD REACT WHY KEEP GOING AT IT WHY GET HHIS FAGGOT FRIEND TO KEEPING GOING ON AT ME INSIDE THE CHAT SAYING OHH WEL THE MONEY YOU GET FROM TEH GOV EVERYONE HERE PAID FOR. NO NO MOTHER FUCKER PAID FOR WHAT I GET THAT IS FUCKING FALSE

IM LEGIT ANGERED DOES EVERYONE HERE TTHAT HAS A MENTAL DISEASE OR PROBLEM GET TREATED THIS WAY. SHIT NEEDS TO STOP I AM THE WRONG TO HVE DONE THIS TO. NOW I DONT HAVE A WEBSITE ILL DO NOTHIN BUT LOOK FOR VODS INFORMAITON NOW BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING TO DO NOW NO PREOCCUPIED WITH NOTHING BUT ANGER

[CaptainBeck]

To the OP  i can understand how you would feel angry about the feedback that was left by Vod but you must understand Vod does this to protect regular users here and he does a great job.

The Health care here in the U.S. is horrible and like you said they wouldn't cover this because it would be considered Asthetic and not needed but i think Viewing some of your posts you might be able to challenge that being Disabled and how it affects you Mentally. I don't even know you but i can tell by how angry the teeth issue affects your life with your angry posts. Don't let the comments get to you.

Ohio has some programs you can check out online for some health i won't post the links here but just google them. Remember when challenging this issue you must mention how it affects you Mentally. The SS administration might have some useful Information.

You should also think about selling that website you have in an auction here. I think your teeth would be more important to your own Mental health and your self esteem.  There are Many Escrow services here on the forum you can use for the sale.

Good Luck OP

no reasons to contact ss, they do not pay for dental implants. INfactg if i get ss its not anyones business here and I dont owe anyone any kind of money from it beucase you didnt owrk for what i get like VOD and whs said. Ill fuck vod and his faggot boyfriend up physically.  This dude nfollowed me from 1 post to the other adn he took his faggot boyfriend with him quit defenidng him you, he was wrong for what he did in 2 fuckign threads  were now fuck off im tired of taking blame. My website has bad name now cause of scammer patrol. No, real damage was done to me the site name saying im fake and  me personally beyond bullshit. EVERYONE KEEPS FUCKING MENTIONING ME ASKIGN FOR LOAN FOR TEETH LETS GO BACK TO THREAD ASKING FOR A LOAN OR TO BE BOUGTH OUT HALF EQUITY OF MY POKER SITE.


THIS MOTHER FUCKER STARTERD THERE BEFORE THE TEETH LOAN SHIT. KNOWING HOW I WOULD REACT 2ND TIME AROUND HE KEPT FUCKING POSTING IN MY 2ND THREAD. ITS LIKE YOU HOLD A STEAK IN A STARVING DOGS FACE KNOWING HELL EAT IT BUT WHY DO IT IF YOU WONT GIVE IT TO HIM. JUST TO TORTURE IT WENT PAST FUCKING SCAMMER PATROL THE KID IS JELOUS ON SOMOE SORT OF LEVEL I WILL FUCK YOUR LIFE UP. KNOWING HO I WOULD REACT WHY KEEP GOING AT IT WHY GET HHIS FAGGOT FRIEND TO KEEPING GOING ON AT ME INSIDE THE CHAT SAYING OHH WEL THE MONEY YOU GET FROM TEH GOV EVERYONE HERE PAID FOR. NO NO MOTHER FUCKER PAID FOR WHAT I GET THAT IS FUCKING FALSE

IM LEGIT ANGERED DOES EVERYONE HERE TTHAT HAS A MENTAL DISEASE OR PROBLEM GET TREATED THIS WAY. SHIT NEEDS TO STOP I AM THE WRONG TO HVE DONE THIS TO. NOW I DONT HAVE A WEBSITE ILL DO NOTHIN BUT LOOK FOR VODS INFORMAITON NOW BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING TO DO NOW NO PREOCCUPIED WITH NOTHING BUT ANGER

Not hard to see why people wont trust you now.

[BadBear]

99% of the people reading this thread haven't seen what posts you're talking about, flipping out like that is just making you look like a crazy whack job.

[Wolf_Pack]

To the OP  i can understand how you would feel angry about the feedback that was left by Vod but you must understand Vod does this to protect regular users here and he does a great job.

The Health care here in the U.S. is horrible and like you said they wouldn't cover this because it would be considered Asthetic and not needed but i think Viewing some of your posts you might be able to challenge that being Disabled and how it affects you Mentally. I don't even know you but i can tell by how angry the teeth issue affects your life with your angry posts. Don't let the comments get to you.

Ohio has some programs you can check out online for some health i won't post the links here but just google them. Remember when challenging this issue you must mention how it affects you Mentally. The SS administration might have some useful Information.

You should also think about selling that website you have in an auction here. I think your teeth would be more important to your own Mental health and your self esteem.  There are Many Escrow services here on the forum you can use for the sale.

Good Luck OP

no reasons to contact ss, they do not pay for dental implants. INfactg if i get ss its not anyones business here and I dont owe anyone any kind of money from it beucase you didnt owrk for what i get like VOD and whs said. Ill fuck vod and his faggot boyfriend up physically.  This dude nfollowed me from 1 post to the other adn he took his faggot boyfriend with him quit defenidng him you, he was wrong for what he did in 2 fuckign threads  were now fuck off im tired of taking blame. My website has bad name now cause of scammer patrol. No, real damage was done to me the site name saying im fake and  me personally beyond bullshit. EVERYONE KEEPS FUCKING MENTIONING ME ASKIGN FOR LOAN FOR TEETH LETS GO BACK TO THREAD ASKING FOR A LOAN OR TO BE BOUGTH OUT HALF EQUITY OF MY POKER SITE.


THIS MOTHER FUCKER STARTERD THERE BEFORE THE TEETH LOAN SHIT. KNOWING HOW I WOULD REACT 2ND TIME AROUND HE KEPT FUCKING POSTING IN MY 2ND THREAD. ITS LIKE YOU HOLD A STEAK IN A STARVING DOGS FACE KNOWING HELL EAT IT BUT WHY DO IT IF YOU WONT GIVE IT TO HIM. JUST TO TORTURE IT WENT PAST FUCKING SCAMMER PATROL THE KID IS JELOUS ON SOMOE SORT OF LEVEL I WILL FUCK YOUR LIFE UP. KNOWING HO I WOULD REACT WHY KEEP GOING AT IT WHY GET HHIS FAGGOT FRIEND TO KEEPING GOING ON AT ME INSIDE THE CHAT SAYING OHH WEL THE MONEY YOU GET FROM TEH GOV EVERYONE HERE PAID FOR. NO NO MOTHER FUCKER PAID FOR WHAT I GET THAT IS FUCKING FALSE

IM LEGIT ANGERED DOES EVERYONE HERE TTHAT HAS A MENTAL DISEASE OR PROBLEM GET TREATED THIS WAY. SHIT NEEDS TO STOP I AM THE WRONG TO HVE DONE THIS TO. NOW I DONT HAVE A WEBSITE ILL DO NOTHIN BUT LOOK FOR VODS INFORMAITON NOW BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING TO DO NOW NO PREOCCUPIED WITH NOTHING BUT ANGER

Had you tried getting a medical loan? 

[CaptainBeck]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/business/worldbusiness/30iht-30loan.7315686.html?pagewanted=all

Its out of date the article, but guessing this is still possible in places and def worth a try by threatening to end a random person on a forum who is looking to protect people.

[NoLimitCrypto]

99% of the people reading this thread haven't seen what posts you're talking about, flipping out like that is just making you look like a crazy whack job.

you have mod, the problem is i am a wack job and am being provoked.

[NoLimitCrypto]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/business/worldbusiness/30iht-30loan.7315686.html?pagewanted=all

Its out of date the article, but guessing this is still possible in places and def worth a try by threatening to end a random person on a forum who is looking to protect people.

OHH so  much justice was done to protect you guys and I got exploited int eh process for whats wrong with me. Quit being a bitch and defending a wrong move. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=620294.0 he changed his words deleted some post looks like

quit defending the wrong party, ive done nothing fucking wrong but offer a fucking loan oppurutunity with something to put up. I DID NOTHING WRONG OHHH MGRUFF THE CRIME DOG VOD PROTECTD THE FORUM TOT HE POITN IT GAVE MY WEBSITE A BAD FUCKING KNAME HE SHOUOLDOF STOPPED THE FIRST THREAD BUT DID NOT BUT A MOTHER FUCKER CAN EDITH THREATDS HERE DELETE THEM WITHOUT ANY TAGS TO IT ALWAYS ILL LOOK WRONG CAUSE I REFUSE TO DELETE OR CHANGE MY THREEADS

HANG YOURSELF

[BadBear]

I just read both your threads, you're goading people into trolling you so you can whine and moan about how terrible your life is and what a victim you are.

for collateral i can give you my rushcard information to see that i recieve a dissability check every month and can slowly pay you, I can give my indentification along with my social security number anything that needed and any kind of interest you have IM extremely desperate to get this done and start living my life outside instaed of being in

I don't know what you want fo rcollateral but i can give all my gov info

That is not collateral.  Please read this thread (first two posts at least) before you make any more stupid threads like this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0

You can always get a dental bridge in the front.

bridges ruin the teeth you put them on, then theres another option that indefinately ruins your teeth, you remove all front teeth but your k 9's then they dress your k9's sharpen then ruin them make them 1 tims shorter and shaper than they weere so they cna put this fake grill thing on.

Listen you smartass I am actually a dental student and I can tell you are bulshitting from here.
No comment any more.

Heyu cunt fuck you, you dont know what its like missing teeth

want me to go on cam cunt and show my missing teeth cunt ?

your  ashitty fuckign student many dental jobs ruin eisting living teeth


dropout of school cunt you cant tell me and the hsit life ive had rfrom missing teeth fuckin whore

This is one of the very first exchanges in one of your threads. Yet you're the victim?

Edit:

... I DID NOTHING WRONG OHHH MGRUFF THE CRIME DOG VOD PROTECTD THE FORUM TOT HE POITN IT GAVE MY WEBSITE A BAD FUCKING KNAME ...

You're the one giving you and your website a bad name.

[CaptainBeck]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/business/worldbusiness/30iht-30loan.7315686.html?pagewanted=all

Its out of date the article, but guessing this is still possible in places and def worth a try by threatening to end a random person on a forum who is looking to protect people.

OHH so  much justice was done to protect you guys and I got exploited int eh process for whats wrong with me. Quit being a bitch and defending a wrong move. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=620294.0 he changed his words deleted some post looks like

quit defending the wrong party, ive done nothing fucking wrong but offer a fucking loan oppurutunity with something to put up. I DID NOTHING WRONG OHHH MGRUFF THE CRIME DOG VOD PROTECTD THE FORUM TOT HE POITN IT GAVE MY WEBSITE A BAD FUCKING KNAME HE SHOUOLDOF STOPPED THE FIRST THREAD BUT DID NOT BUT A MOTHER FUCKER CAN EDITH THREATDS HERE DELETE THEM WITHOUT ANY TAGS TO IT ALWAYS ILL LOOK WRONG CAUSE I REFUSE TO DELETE OR CHANGE MY THREEADS

HANG YOURSELF

I have no reason to hang myself. Now being a bitch as you put it would be starting a thread and getting pissy 6 posts in when we dont bow down to a new person and give him all out money. Using capitals also doesnt help, infact it just makes people want to help you less. You claim this has destroyed your website, but unless i'm missing it, I havent seen the URL of your site anywhere.

The more you talk/insult/shout the less people will even try to help you out.


Edit****

Nevermind i see your website now.... yeah not worth what you were asking for.