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May 24, 2014, 10:08:35 PM |
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What, specifically, do you plan to spend our money on?
Hello! Development, marketing and initial day to day operational costs of course. You mentioned building this yourselves, as part of the 75% ownership stake you deserve, so I don't see much in the way of development costs. This is a lot of money to spend on servers.. and you don't have a product to show us yet. Are you planning on using the money to pay yourselves while you develop the project? Spending it on advertising? Speculating on domains?
Yes, we are building it ourselves, but we also hire in people to the tasks we are not professionals at. In the first months of operations we will have a 7 man staff that will obviously need wages. Servers are just a tiny part of the costs. Design, branding and marketing is where the big costs come in. We are very confident in our product, but for the product to be used it needs aggressive marketing. We do have a lot of this product done already, but it's codes. Do you read codes? I will definitely be skipping this one.
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Uniqueorn
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May 24, 2014, 10:15:01 PM |
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I will definitely be skipping this one.
That's obviously your choice This is a long term investment in a serious business, not a altcoin that you hope to see double overnight. Either we raise the minimum or we don't. If we don't then everyone gets their money back anyway.
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May 24, 2014, 10:20:07 PM |
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Trades on NXT Asset Exchange:
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NotLambchop
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May 24, 2014, 10:33:26 PM |
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... We do have a lot of this product done already, but it's codes. Do you read codes?
WTF is "codes"?
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molecular
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May 25, 2014, 10:30:58 AM |
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Congratulations, man! This is looking very promising.
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PGP key molecular F9B70769 fingerprint 9CDD C0D3 20F8 279F 6BE0 3F39 FC49 2362 F9B7 0769
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Bitventurer (OP)
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May 25, 2014, 11:19:44 AM |
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Congratulations, man! This is looking very promising.
Thanks! Glad to see more and more people seeing the potential!
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Ask Ken About Love
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May 25, 2014, 01:09:18 PM |
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Congratulations, man! This is looking very promising.
Thanks! Glad to see more and more people seeing the potential! One positive comment in two pages of posts = "more and more." <==Technically agree with the "more" part (one is more than zero), but "more and more" implies a trend... Hope your "codes" aren't equally overexuberant
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Uniqueorn
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May 25, 2014, 01:18:07 PM |
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Congratulations, man! This is looking very promising.
Thanks! Glad to see more and more people seeing the potential! One positive comment in two pages of posts = "more and more." <==Technically agree with the "more" part (one is more than zero), but "more and more" implies a trend... Hope your "codes" aren't equally overexuberant What's with your attitude man? We have this IPO on more forums + reddit. We have also recieved several domain offers and questions on PM over the last 24 hours.
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Ask Ken About Love
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May 25, 2014, 01:22:58 PM |
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A bit tired of ridiculous IPOs, I guess. Links to your Reddit and other forums?
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Uniqueorn
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May 25, 2014, 01:26:36 PM |
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A bit tired of ridiculous IPOs, I guess. Links to your Reddit and other forums?
Ridiculous IPO... Ok you are clearly allowed to have your subjective opinion, but you have yet to explain *why* you call this IPO ridiculous. Is it that it's a long term serious investment for once and not a throw of the dice like most cryptoinvestments? We've already raised ~12 000 dollars of our minimum 80 000 dollar goal with minimal promotion. It's first now that we got everything ready that we have begun promoting this IPO. I really dislike people who just come to talk negatively without any constructive criticism whatsoever. Give me some actual feedback or I will simply ignore your spam from now on.
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Ask Ken About Love
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May 25, 2014, 01:36:56 PM Last edit: May 25, 2014, 01:50:07 PM by Ask Ken About Love |
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A bit tired of ridiculous IPOs, I guess. Links to your Reddit and other forums?
Ridiculous IPO... Ok you are clearly allowed to have your subjective opinion, but you have yet to explain *why* you call this IPO ridiculous. Is it that it's a long term serious investment for once and not a throw of the dice like most cryptoinvestments? Most "cryptoinvestments," about 95%, end in fail and AIDS. So I'd say it's more like Three Card Monte than dice We've already raised ~12 000 dollars of our minimum 80 000 dollar goal with minimal promotion. It's first now that we got everything ready that we have begun promoting this IPO. I really dislike people who just come to talk negatively without any constructive criticism whatsoever.
You come here peddling surprise buttsecs, and expect "constructive criticism"? How 'bout GTFO? (but you are entitled to your subjective likes and dislikes) Give me some actual feedback or I will simply ignore your spam from now on.
Take your your multimillion firm and troll with it elsewhere. Is that constructive enough? * We have this IPO on more forums + reddit. We have also recieved several domain offers and questions on PM over the last 24 hours.
Where are the links to Reddit and other forums?
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Lordoftherigs
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May 25, 2014, 09:28:45 PM |
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Hope you guys will raise enaugh to pull this of Sharing your identity would reduce the amount of skeptical posts
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nousernamesleft
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May 25, 2014, 10:00:17 PM |
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Ridiculous valuation. For that reason, I am out...
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Uniqueorn
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May 26, 2014, 06:00:09 AM |
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Ridiculous valuation. For that reason, I am out...
Ridiculous valuation. Care to elaborate further? We have put 80 000 dollars as bare minimum goal that will still enable us to carry out the neccessities and major parts of the business plan. I am not sure if you are familiar with extensive software coding like this project, but it ain't cheap. Then the day to day operations of the site for at least 3 months, then add design and lastly marketing and you should have no problem seeing why 80 000 dollars is a realistic minimum. We obviously do want to raise more like ~200 000 dollars as this would allow us to do everything we want in the business plan and give us a really good start, but like I said 80 000 dollars is minimum. If that number is reached then each shareholder gets several fold more shares than they invested at. I think this is one of the points that has gone by people and we accept our mistake in not highlighting this issue clearly.
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NotLambchop
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May 26, 2014, 12:31:48 PM |
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Ridiculous valuation. For that reason, I am out...
Ridiculous valuation. Care to elaborate further? We have put 80 000 dollars as bare minimum goal that will still enable us to carry out the neccessities and major parts of the business plan. I am not sure if you are familiar with extensive software coding like this project, but it ain't cheap... Lol, $80k, according to your pseudo-prospectus, represents merely 25% of this esteemed concern. And since you are paying yourselves to code, code is as cheap or expensive as you choose to make it like I said 80 000 dollars is minimum. If that number is reached then each shareholder gets several fold more shares than they invested at. I think this is one of the points that has gone by people and we accept our mistake in not highlighting this issue clearly.
Yeah, that's hilarious. Do highlight it. Also, you keep forgetting: We have this IPO on more forums + reddit. We have also recieved several domain offers and questions on PM over the last 24 hours.
Where are the links to Reddit and other forums?
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NotLambchop
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May 26, 2014, 09:09:51 PM Last edit: May 27, 2014, 03:35:16 AM by NotLambchop |
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ty, just started going through that thread and read your--so much lel! Please elaborate/clarify to start: "...The Company’s entire equity structure is currently comprised of Class A Shares. After completion of the offering, it is anticipated the Company’s investors will own 25% of the outstanding shares, while current and expected insiders will retain the balance. ..." -- http://dotsforbits.com/BizPlan.pdf (your prospectus) vs. "...Currently, as stated in the prospectus: the shares you buy guarantee you the net profits of DotsforBits. The reason is simple: if we were to issue these shares as equity in the LTD then we would need the name and passport ID number of every single person buying shares. ..." -- https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/comming-soon-'dfb'/40/ (your other thread) What do the shares represent, equity or "shares of the profits"? And what is the intended meaning of "Class A Shares" [sic] within the context of your prospectus?
*BTW, Since this Bitcointalk thread was started, there was just one post in your other thread ...announcing that this one exists. So still unsure re: "more and more [positive responses]" bit. Perhaps an allusion to the Reddit link you once again forgot to post?
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IPO Magic
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May 26, 2014, 11:03:39 PM Last edit: May 26, 2014, 11:56:35 PM by IPO Magic |
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From your prospectus:
"The acceptance of this document constitutes an agreement on the part of the recipient hereof and the recipient's representatives to maintain the confidentiality of the information contained herein. No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise, without the prior written permission of the author."
I've reproduced your document, in whole and in part, stored it in retrieval systems, transmitted it in multiple forms by multiple means - including but not limited to electronic, mechanical, photocopying and recording - without the prior written permission of the author. Ha! Haha! I haz no scruples!
*FOR YOUR EYES ONLY! PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL! DESTROY BY FIRE IF NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT!
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Bitventurer (OP)
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May 27, 2014, 04:46:33 PM |
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Hope you guys will raise enaugh to pull this of Sharing your identity would reduce the amount of skeptical posts Hey thanks , you can check out linkedin's in the first post.
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durerus
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May 30, 2014, 04:24:29 PM |
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Looks good. Bought some shares via bitcoin yesterday. Do I get my shares now directly to my nxt-account? Sent you an email with id to shares@dotsforbits.com.
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