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June 10, 2014, 06:46:55 AM |
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I would say that is a great idea and I'm glad it got funded by 200 % and more (Video made me go bah though) There is one problem though intermittency the Sun is not always shining Edit three problems One it has to connect to the grid and retain power Two we don't have enough materials to do it everywhere Three How much energy and pollution is used to create the unit and what is B/E energy input energy used to produce the product over its lifecycle That said I would love to see a future sci fi world where there are solar roadways that can generate energy on the grid and also someone gain energy whenever a car moves.
Intelligent roadways are the future, especially in regard to cabling they made a good point about the overhead cables electric roads have good intelligent applications if you can link it to an electric car that said I like their hard work and perseverance story so its neat. Not sure how many jobs it can replace though but a paradigm shift interesting i'm conflicted at it working but at the same time want someone to try it
Agreed. In its current form this would just be a money pit. If they can solve the problems though this could be pretty amazing.
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June 10, 2014, 07:14:45 AM |
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nevermind the cost, it's human life that gets fucked over from the radiation poisoning. the more nuclear reactors you have, the more likely it's going to explode in your face. in the past 35 years, we've had at least 2 of them.. and almost a case in philadelphia as well.
and if you have a population that has been exposed to the radiation, you'd need to quarantine them.. otherwise they'd mix genes with other people and make babies with 3rd eyes.
The Chernobyl disaster was caused by the security lapses on the part of the Soviet authorities. But now the technology has advanced and there are no chances of any such disasters occurring again. There are hundreds, if not thousands of nuclear reactors operating across the world, and every year they save the lives of hundreds of thousands of people, who would have other wise died due to respiratory illnesses caused by the thermal power plants.
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Harley997
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June 10, 2014, 04:33:36 PM |
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Nuclear is really expensive and difficult to start.
Absolutely wrong. Even if all the costs (capital expenses, maintenance and disposal) are taken in to account, nuclear energy remains much cheaper when compared to other forms of energy. Nuclear energy is generally the cheapest in the long run. I believe that it does cost a lot to start a Nuclear plant, and it does take several years to build. A company would not recover all of their capital investment in one year, but in the long term (what companies ultimately look for) a Nuclear plant is a good investment and Nuclear energy is very cheap. The problem with Nuclear is that most people do not want a Nuclear plant to be "near" them. They generally have little problem buying Nuclear energy, but do not want to have the (extremely small) risk of being nearby when a meltdown occurs.
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June 10, 2014, 04:38:51 PM |
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http://www.vice.com/read/how-effed-are-nukesafter effects of major nuclear bombing.. if you look at the pics from kazakhstan and chernobyl, it's kind of a turn off. kazakhstan's current issue is that they are unable to quarantine the affected people, so they are interbreeding with the non-affected people and making babies with serious issues.
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June 10, 2014, 05:07:34 PM |
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http://www.vice.com/read/how-effed-are-nukesafter effects of major nuclear bombing.. if you look at the pics from kazakhstan and chernobyl, it's kind of a turn off. kazakhstan's current issue is that they are unable to quarantine the affected people, so they are interbreeding with the non-affected people and making babies with serious issues. What you do want to do with affected people? Do you want to euthanize, imprison or sterilize them? Strip them with their basic rights to interbreed?
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June 10, 2014, 05:37:02 PM |
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http://www.vice.com/read/how-effed-are-nukesafter effects of major nuclear bombing.. if you look at the pics from kazakhstan and chernobyl, it's kind of a turn off. kazakhstan's current issue is that they are unable to quarantine the affected people, so they are interbreeding with the non-affected people and making babies with serious issues. What you do want to do with affected people? Do you want to euthanize, imprison or sterilize them? Strip them with their basic rights to interbreed? If a doctor says it's 99% probable you will give birth to a child with a malformation or any other problem , what gives you the right to bring to this world a child that will have to suffer all his life?
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June 10, 2014, 05:43:29 PM |
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http://www.vice.com/read/how-effed-are-nukesafter effects of major nuclear bombing.. if you look at the pics from kazakhstan and chernobyl, it's kind of a turn off. kazakhstan's current issue is that they are unable to quarantine the affected people, so they are interbreeding with the non-affected people and making babies with serious issues. What you do want to do with affected people? Do you want to euthanize, imprison or sterilize them? Strip them with their basic rights to interbreed? If a doctor says it's 99% probable you will give birth to a child with a malformation or any other problem , what gives you the right to bring to this world a child that will have to suffer all his life? The doctor is giving percentage it means he is not totally sure. And the doctor is not 100 percent correct in giving percentages. What if the doctor says 99 percent and the reality is 1 percent. What would you do if you are the affected person?
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June 10, 2014, 05:44:55 PM |
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http://www.vice.com/read/how-effed-are-nukesafter effects of major nuclear bombing.. if you look at the pics from kazakhstan and chernobyl, it's kind of a turn off. kazakhstan's current issue is that they are unable to quarantine the affected people, so they are interbreeding with the non-affected people and making babies with serious issues. What you do want to do with affected people? Do you want to euthanize, imprison or sterilize them? Strip them with their basic rights to interbreed? they should be quarantined and live in their own areas.. letting people mix like that could lead to catastrophic disaster in the kazakhstani society. it's not convenient doing that to a group of people, but it's for the greater goods.. and sometimes it just has to happen that way.
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June 10, 2014, 05:45:09 PM |
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http://www.vice.com/read/how-effed-are-nukesafter effects of major nuclear bombing.. if you look at the pics from kazakhstan and chernobyl, it's kind of a turn off. kazakhstan's current issue is that they are unable to quarantine the affected people, so they are interbreeding with the non-affected people and making babies with serious issues. What you do want to do with affected people? Do you want to euthanize, imprison or sterilize them? Strip them with their basic rights to interbreed? If a doctor says it's 99% probable you will give birth to a child with a malformation or any other problem , what gives you the right to bring to this world a child that will have to suffer all his life? The doctor is giving percentage it means he is not totally sure. And the doctor is not 100 percent correct in giving percentages. What if the doctor says 99 percent and the reality is 1 percent. What would you do if you are the affected person? Not having a child and maybe I will think on an adoption. I will not risk it.
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June 10, 2014, 05:52:07 PM |
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they should be quarantined and live in their own areas.. letting people mix like that could lead to catastrophic disaster in the kazakhstani society. it's not convenient doing that to a group of people, but it's for the greater goods.. and sometimes it just has to happen that way.
Genetic mutation from radiation, either in humans or animals have not been reported from Kazakhstan. There has been some incidents of increase in cancer rates, especially in areas near the Semipalatinsk nuclear test sites. But mutation hasn't been reported from anywhere yet. And cancer is not a hereditary disease. If there is no mutation, then cancer patients can have healthy babies.
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niothor
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June 10, 2014, 06:18:44 PM |
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they should be quarantined and live in their own areas.. letting people mix like that could lead to catastrophic disaster in the kazakhstani society. it's not convenient doing that to a group of people, but it's for the greater goods.. and sometimes it just has to happen that way.
Genetic mutation from radiation, either in humans or animals have not been reported from Kazakhstan. There has been some incidents of increase in cancer rates, especially in areas near the Semipalatinsk nuclear test sites. But mutation hasn't been reported from anywhere yet. And cancer is not a hereditary disease. If there is no mutation, then cancer patients can have healthy babies. Since just two days ago you claimed that there were no nuclear test near villages in Russia I know the russians tested bombs near a village, and the radiation wreaked havoc.. but it's not the same thing.
Russians tested the nuclear weapons in remote sparsely inhabited areas, such as Novaya Zemlya in the Arctic and Kamchatka. ... I will not believe a word of what you're saying about the minimal impact those test had on the population and that there were no mutation reports Just because mutations are likely to be small and difficult to detect it doesn't mean they haven't occurred. This was supported by findings of the University of Leicester, UK in 2002 that people exposed to high doses of radiation near Semipalatinsk had an 80% higher rate and their children a 50% higher rate of DNA mutation than control groups http://www.ippnw-students.org/Japan/Semipalatinsk.pdf
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June 11, 2014, 02:31:01 AM |
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nevermind the cost, it's human life that gets fucked over from the radiation poisoning. the more nuclear reactors you have, the more likely it's going to explode in your face. in the past 35 years, we've had at least 2 of them.. and almost a case in philadelphia as well.
and if you have a population that has been exposed to the radiation, you'd need to quarantine them.. otherwise they'd mix genes with other people and make babies with 3rd eyes.
The Chernobyl disaster was caused by the security lapses on the part of the Soviet authorities. But now the technology has advanced and there are no chances of any such disasters occurring again. There are hundreds, if not thousands of nuclear reactors operating across the world, and every year they save the lives of hundreds of thousands of people, who would have other wise died due to respiratory illnesses caused by the thermal power plants. The biggest risk is that governments are concerned some of the byproducts from the reactors are then moved and converted into nuclear weaponry Also how to dispose of nuclear waste Glassification processes etc how long it takes for spent fuel to cool down example Fukushima reactors Although countries like Japan have the tech and could go nuclear or China which is nuclear there are concerns about giving it to other countries Iran nuclear program/ sanctions and poor economic well being of its citizens as a consequence North Korea Nuclear Armed and Independent but based on the reports we have sucks to live there No New Nuclear Reactor has been built in the USA since 1977 because of increasing costs as more and more safeguards are put on them and people protest the idea. The only reason nuclear has been able to maintain its share of the energy grid is because of efficiencies found in reactors From 30% efficient in the 1970s to 90% efficient in 2000 http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Countries-T-Z/USA--Nuclear-Power/That said until the Geopolitics is solved nuclear probably won't sell well for some time yet.
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June 11, 2014, 04:17:57 AM |
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The biggest risk is that governments are concerned some of the byproducts from the reactors are then moved and converted into nuclear weaponry
The nuclear waste or the nuclear fuel can't be directly converted to nuclear weaponry. The Uranium fuel used in nuclear reactors is Low-enriched uranium (LEU), which contains 3% to 5% U-235. (The remainder is U-238, which is not radio-active). For creating nuclear weapons, you need Highly enriched uranium (HEU), which contains 80% to 90% U-235. Converting the LEU to HEU is a very complicated process, and only a very few nations in the world currently possess that technology.
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June 11, 2014, 06:23:12 AM |
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The biggest risk is that governments are concerned some of the byproducts from the reactors are then moved and converted into nuclear weaponry
The nuclear waste or the nuclear fuel can't be directly converted to nuclear weaponry. The Uranium fuel used in nuclear reactors is Low-enriched uranium (LEU), which contains 3% to 5% U-235. (The remainder is U-238, which is not radio-active). For creating nuclear weapons, you need Highly enriched uranium (HEU), which contains 80% to 90% U-235. Converting the LEU to HEU is a very complicated process, and only a very few nations in the world currently possess that technology. The problem is not all nations are transparent about their facilities and capabilities Having enriched uranium for medical usage (nuclear medicine) requires 20% purity That said once at 20% it becomes much easier to get to 90% nuclear grade than it is from that 3% to 5% enrichment That is why governments are concerned with Breakout which is the ability to get to weapons grade rapidly before any counter response can be done simply put the centrifuges just need 3 months from 20% http://www.iranwatch.org/our-publications/articles-reports/irans-nuclear-timetable___ Increasing the percentage of U-235 becomes progressively easier, as explained in a 2012 glossary by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and Harvard Kennedy School. If the aim is to reach 90 per cent, getting to 3.5 per cent requires some 75 per cent of the work, and once 20 per cent is attained, nine-tenths of the job is done. For this reason, when in February 2010 Iran began enriching to 20 per cent alarm bells rang. This dramatically shortens the time needed – in theory – to produce a bomb's worth of weapons-grade uranium. Iran could, in theory, produce weapons-grade uranium from its stockpile of uranium enriched to five per cent using its existing enrichment facilities at Natanz and Fordo. But it would take considerably longer than with 20-per cent and crucially, the International Atomic Energy Agency, the UN watchdog, would notice any such "break out" long before it is completed. __ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10436068/Iran-nuclear-talks-what-you-need-to-know-about-uranium-enrichment.htmlNewer reactors have less of this risk but older reactors even CANDU can enrich to that level easily Take the Chalk River Facility the North American Source for Radioactive Isotopes it enriches to 20% and no one is concerned but if you put one of those in Latin America some people would worry about the facilities security from Terrorist Attacks and the risk they move to weapons grade weaponry depending on the transparency they provide. The reason their are inspectors checking those facilities or negotiating at the NPT every 5 years (Non-Proliferation Treaty) As an aside that does not mean sanctions on innocent civilians and student bank accounts is the solution either in regards to Iran. Economic warfare is still warfare
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Ron~Popeil
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June 11, 2014, 06:37:14 AM |
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The biggest risk is that governments are concerned some of the byproducts from the reactors are then moved and converted into nuclear weaponry
The nuclear waste or the nuclear fuel can't be directly converted to nuclear weaponry. The Uranium fuel used in nuclear reactors is Low-enriched uranium (LEU), which contains 3% to 5% U-235. (The remainder is U-238, which is not radio-active). For creating nuclear weapons, you need Highly enriched uranium (HEU), which contains 80% to 90% U-235. Converting the LEU to HEU is a very complicated process, and only a very few nations in the world currently possess that technology. The problem is not all nations are transparent about their facilities and capabilities Having enriched uranium for medical usage (nuclear medicine) requires 20% purity That said once at 20% it becomes much easier to get to 90% nuclear grade than it is from that 3% to 5% enrichment That is why governments are concerned with Breakout which is the ability to get to weapons grade rapidly before any counter response can be done simply put the centrifuges just need 3 months from 20% http://www.iranwatch.org/our-publications/articles-reports/irans-nuclear-timetable___ Increasing the percentage of U-235 becomes progressively easier, as explained in a 2012 glossary by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and Harvard Kennedy School. If the aim is to reach 90 per cent, getting to 3.5 per cent requires some 75 per cent of the work, and once 20 per cent is attained, nine-tenths of the job is done. For this reason, when in February 2010 Iran began enriching to 20 per cent alarm bells rang. This dramatically shortens the time needed – in theory – to produce a bomb's worth of weapons-grade uranium. Iran could, in theory, produce weapons-grade uranium from its stockpile of uranium enriched to five per cent using its existing enrichment facilities at Natanz and Fordo. But it would take considerably longer than with 20-per cent and crucially, the International Atomic Energy Agency, the UN watchdog, would notice any such "break out" long before it is completed. __ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10436068/Iran-nuclear-talks-what-you-need-to-know-about-uranium-enrichment.htmlNewer reactors have less of this risk but older reactors even CANDU can enrich to that level easily Take the Chalk River Facility the North American Source for Radioactive Isotopes it enriches to 20% and no one is concerned but if you put one of those in Latin America some people would worry about the facilities security from Terrorist Attacks and the risk they move to weapons grade weaponry depending on the transparency they provide. The reason their are inspectors checking those facilities or negotiating at the NPT every 5 years (Non-Proliferation Treaty) As an aside that does not mean sanctions on innocent civilians and student bank accounts is the solution either in regards to Iran. Economic warfare is still warfare This is an issue that has no easy solutions On one hand inexpensive power is something that can make a more stable economy in places that really need it but their unstable governments will always be interested in exploiting it to increase their standing in the world as a nuclear nation. Sanctions as you mentioned only tend to hurt innocent civilians and military force should always be a last resort.
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June 11, 2014, 06:43:33 AM |
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The problem is not all nations are transparent about their facilities and capabilities Having enriched uranium for medical usage (nuclear medicine) requires 20% purity That said once at 20% it becomes much easier to get to 90% nuclear grade than it is from that 3% to 5% enrichment
No need to single out North Korea or Iran, when none of the nuclear powers themselves (including India and Pakistan) are transparent about their facilities and capabilities. How can the US or Russia blame the DPRK, when the former is having thousands of nuclear weapons compared to the few dozen under the control of the latter?
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The problem is not all nations are transparent about their facilities and capabilities Having enriched uranium for medical usage (nuclear medicine) requires 20% purity That said once at 20% it becomes much easier to get to 90% nuclear grade than it is from that 3% to 5% enrichment
No need to single out North Korea or Iran, when none of the nuclear powers themselves (including India and Pakistan) are transparent about their facilities and capabilities. How can the US or Russia blame the DPRK, when the former is having thousands of nuclear weapons compared to the few dozen under the control of the latter? Fair point Byrant, I just went with those two since they are the typical ones on the table when your talking about the NPT and Non-Proliferation. Technical list is India, Israel, Pakistan, North Korea, Iran and Previously Libya to complete that list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferation_of_Nuclear_WeaponsI could go on a rant about how Israel's policy of ambiguity is a problem since they don't officially say we have nukes but also don't say we do not have nukes as well. Or India having Nukes making Pakistan want to have nukes as well due to their tensions to have a power balance but that said I agree with you having the nuclear chip on the bargaining table is a weapon that larger states simply do not want little or unstable states to be able to wield. Heck could even say Gaddafi following the USA and disarming his nuclear arsenal led to his downfall as without the nuclear deterrent they were not afraid to invade and take over the country Disarmament in 2003 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disarmament_of_LibyaInvasion and Takeover in 2011 with a civil war ongoing to now because even though Gaddafi was controversial he was the balancing pin between all different ethnic groups. Carrying on one DPRK missile launched would destroy a big area of Japan or South Korea and do massive damage (Not China though lone buddy/sort of), but that attack would be suicidal and that is what scares large states that one missile can be a giant threat and as a result slows nuclear proliferation even for peaceful purposes, since they assume not all actors are rational. Or governments change why South Africa abandoned its program once Apartheid failed and the ANC was to come into power. That said Solar is a neat solution to those energy problems just not scalable or low enough in cost yet (even with the recent US Solar Bankruptcies to Chinese Firms), but Geothermal seems like the most efficient one in the long run if technologies can improve stored energy forever (well a long time) from the Earth. However there is always room for a more diverse set of energy options but that Geopolitics still gets in the way.
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Fair point Byrant, I just went with those two since they are the typical ones on the table when your talking about the NPT and Non-Proliferation.
Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons must mean that none of the world nations can possess nuclear weapons. It is hypocrisy from the part of Russia and the US, when they say that other nations can't have nukes and only they can have them.
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Fair point Byrant, I just went with those two since they are the typical ones on the table when your talking about the NPT and Non-Proliferation.
Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons must mean that none of the world nations can possess nuclear weapons. It is hypocrisy from the part of Russia and the US, when they say that other nations can't have nukes and only they can have them. It is hypocritical that is why the NPT has had a resolution for them to denuclearize their own arsenals every 5 years Which the US and Russia did by decreasing total units but also updating and modernizing their arsenals That said the NPT is non binding and attempts to make it binding would result in states leaving the treaty so its complex. Pretty much can sum it up here http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2013_12/How-Divergent-Views-on-Nuclear-Disarmament-Threaten-the-NPTConsequently, nuclear-weapon states consider nuclear disarmament and the achievement of a world without nuclear weapons to be a long-term aspirational objective at best. Thus, pending the achievement of perceived global preconditions for nuclear disarmament, these countries are prepared to take only limited and gradual disarmament steps without fundamentally reassessing the role of nuclear weapons or altering the nuclear strategic balance. At the same time, nuclear-weapon states focus on the prevention of further proliferation of nuclear weapons, which they see as the only real challenge to the integrity of the NPT. This is not only their clear priority, but they argue it is a necessary precondition for more-substantial nuclear disarmament steps. The perspectives of most non-nuclear-weapon states regarding the urgency of nuclear disarmament are quite different. Among these countries, nuclear weapons and nuclear deterrence are widely seen as a high-risk approach to national and international security. According to this view, humanity escaped unharmed during the Cold War period and thereafter as much by luck as by design. Moreover, the concepts of nuclear deterrence and the necessity of nuclear strategic stability, which were merely transferred to the 21st century with little change, look increasingly anachronistic 20 years after the end of the Cold War. This lack of adaptation to new realities might be seen not only as a missed opportunity but also as a serious misjudgment and a key driver and incentive for proliferation. Arguably, there is a direct relation between the continued reliance on nuclear weapons by nuclear-weapon states and the quest for these weapons by other states. This link can only be broken by a collective and sincere move away from nuclear weapons. Most non-nuclear-weapon states that are not part of “nuclear sharing arrangements” or “nuclear umbrellas” consider nuclear weapons to be highly dangerous in themselves. They view retention of and reliance on nuclear weapons as outdated, while seeing disarmament as an essential element of preventing the proliferation of nuclear weapons. The mere existence of nuclear weapons results in a permanent risk of devastating consequences for the entire planet. Such an existential threat to all humankind should no longer be handled by a few states as a national security matter to the detriment of the security interests of the vast majority of states. So it's a fundamental shift in the approach between the Nuclear Weapon States and the Non Nuclear Weapon States on Non-Proliferation
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June 11, 2014, 12:30:41 PM |
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when i see people talking about this (above) i think that world need some change in their way of think you know world change because of big or impossible idea coming from anymous people with their crazy idea you know someone who found gravitation law came just because he's sitting and just saw apple drop from the tree you know people will not can transport with airplane if theres not two people with their crazy idea, they want to fly in the sky you know thomas who created lamp with thousand failure and then found the perfect material to created it i think this is crazy idea because if this success it will can change the world with this idea and nuclear is the cheapest energy in this era , i will agree with this but , this energy have big problem with its radiation ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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