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May 25, 2014, 01:58:14 AM |
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calling centralization "socialism" because there are corrupt people who want to gain seats of power.. is just plain ignorant fox noise level FUD.
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May 25, 2014, 08:09:29 AM |
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Care to show us some evidence on the matter?
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May 25, 2014, 08:34:22 AM |
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Care to show us some evidence on the matter?
As I stated before, I have no evidence. My tin-foil hat conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked and there's no communist under any bed anywhere.
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May 25, 2014, 10:16:07 AM |
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They prefer to be called progressives now.
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First seastead company actually selling sea homes: Ocean Builders https://ocean.builders Of course we accept bitcoin.
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May 25, 2014, 12:15:54 PM |
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Actually Bitcoin could solve one of the key problems with communism. Bitcoin makes third party accounting very easy so with enough computer hardware a command economy plus Bitcoin may not be totally inefficient. Of course the incentive problem still exists and then there is the fact that all the professed communists I know are total idiots.
BTW just because some believes in social justice or the environment or taxation or that there is a role for Government in the society does not make them a communist. I am RWA and even I can see that. Rather communists believe in systems and tend to put systems above people. So they would say that Bitcoin is bad because people have control of there own wealth rather than some kind of superior system having control. They do not realise that planned systems can be inferior to self organised systems.
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May 25, 2014, 04:29:18 PM |
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I can't wrap my head around people who call themselves socialists/communists and support bitcoin... That's the biggest oxymoron ever.
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Bitcoin: The currency of liberty 1HBJSf3Lm9i8KxjZ7fuoN9FJ8hniniFbv4
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May 28, 2014, 02:36:49 AM |
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They prefer to be called progressives now.
How true! Thank you for your insightful post!
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May 28, 2014, 04:03:28 AM |
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Save the unicorns?
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LostDutchman
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May 28, 2014, 04:36:34 AM |
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Save the unicorns?
I prefer to save the wolves. The unicorns are doing just fine. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi1024.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy303%2FLoona93%2Fwolf.jpg&t=665&c=SX97HM5gg_jh1A) The wolves tend to throw off the reins of control: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi673.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv95%2Fshadowdrivenwolf%2FNew_Coyote_by_kenket.jpg&t=665&c=FsUber5yrR7mLQ)
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May 28, 2014, 04:39:53 AM |
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It's becoming ever more clear to to me that the communists are actively trying to centralise and control Bitcoin.
Assholes want to micromanage peoples daily lives, thoughts and have the ability fuck with your money at will.
Keep bitcoin decentralized at all cost!
Communism? Your post seems to be what is called democracy in the good ole United States ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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May 28, 2014, 04:40:50 AM |
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It's becoming ever more clear to to me that the communists are actively trying to centralise and control Bitcoin.
Assholes want to micromanage peoples daily lives, thoughts and have the ability fuck with your money at will.
Keep bitcoin decentralized at all cost!
Communism? Your post seems to be what is called democracy in the good ole United States ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Now that is a good point!
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May 28, 2014, 08:40:41 AM |
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Following are the status of current communist nations about Bitcoin 1. China: Banned except from Hong Kong, the free trade zone 2. Russia, the ex-communist: Banned but running the arguably biggest exchange BTC-e 3. North Korea: Kim Jong Un is yet to figure out what is Bitcoin. He is more interested in nuclear weapons to jump on the US force deployed at Japan. 4. Cuba: The Castro brothers are yet to figure out the internet, let alone Bitcoin. Where did u find communists are trying to centralize Bitcoin ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Actually China and Russia are more hardcore capitalist then most of the western capitalist countries ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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May 28, 2014, 08:46:41 AM |
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Following are the status of current communist nations about Bitcoin 1. China: Banned except from Hong Kong, the free trade zone 2. Russia, the ex-communist: Banned but running the arguably biggest exchange BTC-e 3. North Korea: Kim Jong Un is yet to figure out what is Bitcoin. He is more interested in nuclear weapons to jump on the US force deployed at Japan. 4. Cuba: The Castro brothers are yet to figure out the internet, let alone Bitcoin. Where did u find communists are trying to centralize Bitcoin ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Actually China and Russia are more hardcore capitalist then most of the western capitalist countries ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Your list seems to be missing the UK, the biggest communist country of them all.
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May 28, 2014, 09:20:29 AM |
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That wasn't my list. I've quoted ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . BTW the entire EU(SSR) is the next big communist/leftist experiment. The original commies have failed, the national socialists have failed as well, the welfare state concept of the social democrats ended in bankrouptcy. Now they are mixing the organizational structure of the USSR (powerless parlament, unelected leadership) with the goals of national socialists (building a kind of Eurasian empire), by using the tools of the welfare state (breeding and keeping unedicated or brainwashed masses and third world immigrants at the cost of the middle class, and using them as a voting machine). As I see the US is on the same path as well.
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May 28, 2014, 09:30:21 AM |
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Following are the status of current communist nations about Bitcoin 1. China: Banned except from Hong Kong, the free trade zone 2. Russia, the ex-communist: Banned but running the arguably biggest exchange BTC-e 3. North Korea: Kim Jong Un is yet to figure out what is Bitcoin. He is more interested in nuclear weapons to jump on the US force deployed at Japan. 4. Cuba: The Castro brothers are yet to figure out the internet, let alone Bitcoin. Where did u find communists are trying to centralize Bitcoin ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Actually China and Russia are more hardcore capitalist then most of the western capitalist countries ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I don't think, most of the people here know what communism means. Must comments in this thread are just disturbing. Seems like US-Propaganda did a good job. Snail2's comment sums that up pretty good. Btw. I am not a communist. I like the principal concept, but I don't think it could work.
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May 28, 2014, 09:37:55 AM |
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Following are the status of current communist nations about Bitcoin 1. China: Banned except from Hong Kong, the free trade zone 2. Russia, the ex-communist: Banned but running the arguably biggest exchange BTC-e 3. North Korea: Kim Jong Un is yet to figure out what is Bitcoin. He is more interested in nuclear weapons to jump on the US force deployed at Japan. 4. Cuba: The Castro brothers are yet to figure out the internet, let alone Bitcoin. Where did u find communists are trying to centralize Bitcoin ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Actually China and Russia are more hardcore capitalist then most of the western capitalist countries ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Your list seems to be missing the UK, the biggest communist country of them all. Do yourself a favor and read up on what communism means. Don't simply type garbage. Communism is neither a dangerous thing nor is it a threat to your "freedom". It's only problem is that true communism can never be achieved in real life. What all these so-called communist countries are following a system of centralization,which focuses power in the hands of a few. True communism has the State controlling the resources of a community,however in real life,no state can run without an head,which is the problem. As for communism screwing over Bitcoin,the truth couldn't be further away. As noted in the comment above,these countries can barely figure out the internet.
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May 28, 2014, 10:04:19 AM |
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Do yourself a favor and read up on what communism means. Don't simply type garbage. Communism is neither a dangerous thing nor is it a threat to your "freedom". It's only problem is that true communism can never be achieved in real life. What all these so-called communist countries are following a system of centralization,which focuses power in the hands of a few. True communism has the State controlling the resources of a community,however in real life,no state can run without an head,which is the problem. As for communism screwing over Bitcoin,the truth couldn't be further away. As noted in the comment above,these countries can barely figure out the internet.
As I spent my first twenty-some years in a communist country, I do not agree. Don't pretense yourself with fairy tales like "true communism". There are no such thing. Apart from some dreamers nobody promised a "true communism". Even Marx, Engels and Lenin believed in a kind of "practical communism". ...and certainly there was a "real life communism", and that was a dangerous thing, represented by some dangerous people and it definitely took our freedom and wealth away. I know that from my very own first hand experience ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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May 28, 2014, 10:23:41 AM Last edit: May 28, 2014, 12:17:40 PM by turvarya |
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Do yourself a favor and read up on what communism means. Don't simply type garbage. Communism is neither a dangerous thing nor is it a threat to your "freedom". It's only problem is that true communism can never be achieved in real life. What all these so-called communist countries are following a system of centralization,which focuses power in the hands of a few. True communism has the State controlling the resources of a community,however in real life,no state can run without an head,which is the problem. As for communism screwing over Bitcoin,the truth couldn't be further away. As noted in the comment above,these countries can barely figure out the internet.
As I spent my first twenty-some years in a communist country, I do not agree. Don't pretense yourself with fairy tales like "true communism". There are no such thing. Apart from some dreamers nobody promised a "true communism". Even Marx, Engels and Lenin believed in a kind of "practical communism". ...and certainly there was a "real life communism", and that was a dangerous thing, represented by some dangerous people and it definitely took our freedom and wealth away. I know that from my very own first hand experience ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . You didn't spend your "first twenty-some years in a communist country". You might have spend it in a country, that calls it self Communist. There are also countries which call themselves Democratic, and have nothing to do with a democracy
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May 28, 2014, 10:40:30 AM |
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You disn'tspend your "first twenty-some years in a communist country". You might have spend it in a country, that calls it self Communist. There are also countries which call themselves Democratic, and have nothing to do with a democracy
OK mate, you surely know these things better ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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May 28, 2014, 11:09:56 AM |
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This thread is almost as stupid as the bitcoin causing world hunger thread
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