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May 24, 2014, 08:57:00 PM
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I've been reading about neoliberalism in my university course, and there are a lot of critiques that I agree with. It seems like neoliberalism is not working as an economic/political ideology and is only dragging us into further problems as economic polarization gets worse. So what do you think is going to replace it? Another form of capitalism? Socialism?

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May 24, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
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The definition of neoliberalism of laissez faire free markets is not what we have today at all. No surprise they're pretending like we do have it in these lefty universities. What we have is state sponsored corporatism which allows big business to buy favors w/ politicians and then they craft regulations or deregulations in their favor. How do you think obamacare was passed? the banker bailouts? the absurd military budget here? just as a few examples. AKA fascism in a mild form. The Congress were getting calls 300-1 against the banker bailouts and TARP yet they passed it anyways. Then, these same corporations, insurance companies, unions, whatever donate massive amounts of money to these shitheads when the average person that doesn't belly up at the public trough (yet pays for it) can donate up to $2600 per primary and general election. Most usually give nothing and only a few actually and actively support candidates running against many of these establishment incumbents. So, the boobs of society complain and mostly do nothing but there is a growing liberty movement and peripheral Tea Party and other related groups mounting challenges and having some successes. That's why it's so important for our growing crypto community needs to become a big part of the global and US liberty movement to put the special interests to bed and put a leash on the US military and covert operations affecting the rest of the world. And, Sen. Rand Paul is the man to back financially if he runs for President coming up here. So, to recap, big businesses use their government buddies to write legislation in their favor, often at the expense of the whole people. That is not capitalism in any sense of the word.
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May 24, 2014, 10:26:29 PM
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An ideology is all rhetorical propaganda and a rehash of an older time tested system.  This "Neoliberalism" you spoke of is largely a contemporary descendent of the Plutocracies we saw in Ancient Greece / Rome and then the Medieval City States.  It wasn't a bad economic system either - you were better off in a classical Plutocracy than in most classical Autocracies (Kingdoms).

What can replace is?  Karl Marx answered your question a long time ago.  We'll essentially see away with the withering of the state and a reversion into a Tribal Society, which Marx himself considered to be 'Primitive Communism'

 (more accurately Communism was supposed to be a modern Tribal Society but real life Communism post-Stalin / post-Mao became a rehash of bureaucratic despotism.  What is this term?  The Directory of Revolutionary France or the strong bureaucratic rule we saw in Chinese history).

Albeit a name, as I said, is all rhetorical propaganda and it wouldn't be called Communist or Anarchist as these are loaded terms which make people crap their pants in fear.  

More likely we'll see a society where there is no government but the internet is the interconnecting medium which handles commerce, justice, laws, et al - in other words, you'ld end up with a contemporary Tribal Society but under a name we don't know yet.  Had Occupy Wall Street succeeded then it would had been "Occupyism" or "Anti-Consumerism"

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May 25, 2014, 01:11:53 AM
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I agree it is not really Capitalism, but it is the ideology that most experts seem to agree has ruled over the world for the past 30 or so years.




More likely we'll see a society where there is no government but the internet is the interconnecting medium which handles commerce, justice, laws, et al - in other words, you'ld end up with a contemporary Tribal Society but under a name we don't know yet.  Had Occupy Wall Street succeeded then it would had been "Occupyism" or "Anti-Consumerism"


Now that sounds interesting. Sort of like Bitcoin replacing conventional physical economic systems, Internet could in fact replace physical governments, especially as we move away from separate states into one global society without borders. But that is looking really far into the future I think.

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