The Bitcoin Foundation-fraudsters, pedophiles, murderers ,fat fucks and scammers

[cryptopaths]

With their extreme corruption and evidence linking them to some of the biggest scams in Bitcoin (MTGox) and murders made to look like suicides. Now with the revelation that KNC didn't actually pay the $100k under proper procedure or even more likely at all to vote for Brock Pierce and elect him. Honestly what will it take to rally together the Bitcoin community and take these scumbags down? The leadership of the foundation for the most part consists of fraudsters, fat fucks, pedophiles, murderers and scammers who don't even properly cover their tracks, it's like they feel there so untouchable they think no one can stop them.

[Beliathon]

So basically the same old shit as the folks at the top of the fiat pyramid?

You mean a new kind of money didn't magically resolve the problem of power being a corrupting force? *GASP*

Cryptocurrency did not create the problems inherent to capitalism, and cryptocurrency is not going to solve them.

To do that, we must shift the paradigm of culture.

"Premise Four: Civilization is based on a clearly defined and widely accepted yet often unarticulated hierarchy. Violence done by those higher on the hierarchy to those lower is nearly always invisible, that is, unnoticed. When it is noticed, it is fully rationalized.

Violence done by those lower on the hierarchy to those higher is unthinkable, and when it does occur is regarded with shock, horror, and the fetishization of the victims."

-Derrick Jensen, Endgame.

[Broseph Stalin]

In the end, bitcoin is open source. That's the difference between it and the fiat system.
If the people behind the euro are corrupt.. well, good luck doing anything about it.
If the people behind bitcoin are corrupt.. well, seize control over it.

Bitcoin is a consensus based network. For example; if more people want a fork of bitcoin that doesn't have a website or sourceforge under the control of the foundation.. we just do it. Nobody can stop the majority from winning in bitcoin.. that's true democracy.

I would say that there's only one thing stopping it: not enough developers that know the protocol inside out. If the majority wants to take control, the majority needs to be educated. If only a rotten few know how to develop it, only a rotten few will ever be in control. It's up to us to take control if we want it.

[Beliathon]

Bitcoin is a consensus based network.

BINGO! I don't think most people realize how important this is, how radical and brilliant the solution of [the blockchain] crypto is, to the problem of [trust] money.

Bitcoin is the internet of money, it cannot be stopped. As such its dominance over all things financial is a matter of WHEN, not IF. All global fiat wealth visible in top bottle; crypto in bottom.

[bananas]

Bitcoin is a consensus based network.

BINGO! I don't think most people realize how important this is, how radical and brilliant the solution of [the blockchain] crypto is, to the problem of [trust] money.

Consensus among about 6 miners that own near all hash rate? Descentralization does not exist right now.

[Broseph Stalin]

Bitcoin is a consensus based network.

BINGO! I don't think most people realize how important this is, how radical and brilliant the solution of [the blockchain] crypto is, to the problem of [trust] money.

Consensus among about 6 miners that own near all hash rate? Descentralization does not exist right now.

Which, again, speaks to the importance of the majority to work together to assume control.

"All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

[jonald_fyookball]

Bitcoin is a consensus based network.

BINGO! I don't think most people realize how important this is, how radical and brilliant the solution of [the blockchain] crypto is, to the problem of [trust] money.

Consensus among about 6 miners that own near all hash rate? Descentralization does not exist right now.

6 pools very different from 6 miners.

If a pool starts acting badly, it can be abandoned pretty much instantly.

[Group Bitcoin]

Bitcoin is a consensus based network.

BINGO! I don't think most people realize how important this is, how radical and brilliant the solution of [the blockchain] crypto is, to the problem of [trust] money.

Consensus among about 6 miners that own near all hash rate? Descentralization does not exist right now.

Which, again, speaks to the importance of the majority to work together to assume control.

"All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

How do they actually control it though, in what way ? Do they adjust the fundamentals like block reward for example ?

Or control by just being recognized as the figure head, the organization at the top ?

[Bit_Happy]

So basically the same old shit as the folks at the top of the fiat pyramid?

You mean a new kind of money didn't magically resolve the problem of power being a corrupting force? *GASP*

Cryptocurrency did not create the problems inherent to capitalism, and cryptocurrency is not going to solve them.
...

The biggest problem "inherent to capitalism" is that people do not know what it really is and they believe the crap taught it school and on TV. In case you do not know, real free-market capitalism is an ideal condition to work towards achieving..

[Beliathon]

The biggest problem "inherent to capitalism" is that people do not know what it really is and they believe the crap taught it school and on TV. In case you do not know, real free-market capitalism is an ideal condition to work towards achieving..

These "capitalism would be perfect if only we were DOING IT RIGHT" pipedream arguments remind me of something... now what could it be?

Ahhh yes, fundamentalist Christianity. Wake the fuck up, capitalism is a living nightmare for most of the world, even though it's been a pretty sweet deal for Elder English-speaking White Males.

Capitalism is a Cult, and economics is the pseudo-science which supports it.

It is the direct descendant of feudalism, our last ties to an era characterized by violence, slavery, and exploitation. For god's sake we're still paying RENT in 2014!! We peasants paying LAND-LORDS for the RIGHT to LIVE in decent shelter. There are no barbarians trying to kill us these days, the LORDS do nothing to protect the LAND, yet still we PAY THEM. WHY? Tradition, ignorance, obedience, nation-state indoctrination, and stupidity - that's why.

If you want a decent future for your grandchildren to live in, you must accept that decent food, shelter, healthcare, and education are a BIRTHRIGHT for ALL HUMAN BEINGS.

Any economic philosophy - capitalism included - that tells you humans must WORK for the right to EXIST is a LIE! Capitalism is ignorance, and therefore it is evil.

"All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

"There is only one good: Knowledge. And one evil: Ignorance"
-Socrates

[TaunSew]

The biggest problem "inherent to capitalism" is that people do not know what it really is and they believe the crap taught it school and on TV. In case you do not know, real free-market capitalism is an ideal condition to work towards achieving..

These "capitalism would be perfect if only we were DOING IT RIGHT" pipedream arguments remind me of something... now what could it be?

Ahhh yes, fundamentalist Christianity. Wake the fuck up, capitalism is a living nightmare for most of the world.

Capitalism is a religion, and economics is the pseudo-science which supports it.

It is the direct descendant of feudalism, our last ties to an era characterized by violence, slavery, and exploitation. For god's sake we're still paying RENT in 2014!! We peasants paying LAND-LORDS for the RIGHT to LIVE in decent shelter. There are no barbarians trying to kill us these days, the LORDS do nothing to protect the LAND, yet still we PAY THEM. WHY? Tradition, ignorance, obedience, nation-state indoctrination, and stupidity - that's why.

If you want a decent future for your grandchildren to live in, you must accept that decent food, shelter, healthcare, and education are a BIRTHRIGHT for ALL HUMAN BEINGS.

Any economic philosophy - capitalism included - that tells you humans must WORK for the right to EXIST is a LIE!

"All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

"There is only one good: Knowledge. And one evil: Ignorance"
-Socrates

As long as there is property tax - you don't own the land.  We regularly boot out 70+ year olds because they undergo some sort of dementia, underpaid their property tax (probably which only went up due to inflation) and then were evicted from properties they have lived for decades in.  For the thousands of years we've had human history, our predecessors would laughing at us for this.


I can understand paying for something like natural gas but the idea of taxing land is dumb.  So is any notion of vacant land or property ownership (adverse possession has been the norm in human history)

[jonald_fyookball]

Any economic philosophy - capitalism included - that tells you humans must WORK for the right to EXIST is a LIE! Capitalism is ignorance, and therefore it is evil.

This doesn't even make sense.  Values (food, shelter, etc) have to come from somewhere.  If I'm not going to earn them myself, that means someone else has to.

See, this is why you can't argue politics/philosophy with Beliathon. Smart guy, love his enthusiasm for Bitcoin, but too many confused assumptions rattling around in his head.  (No offense)

[steeev]

'(the) if only we were DOING IT RIGHT" pipedream arguments remind me of something... now what could it be?

reminds me of socialism... they keep on trying it - it only ever seems to go to tyranny, despotism, collapse, genocide...

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Any economic philosophy - capitalism included - that tells you humans must WORK for the right to EXIST is a LIE! Capitalism is ignorance, and therefore it is evil.

This doesn't even make sense.  Values (food, shelter, etc) have to come from somewhere.  If I'm not going to earn them myself, that means someone else has to.

See, this is why you can't argue politics/philosophy with Beliathion.  Smart guy, love his enthusiasm for Bitcoin, but too many confused assumptions rattling around in his head.  (No offense)

Facts be told, I sometimes can be accused of the same thing, albeit I'm trying my damdest to get you folks to see outside the box oppose to remaining inside with some smelly dead cat, or a uber-purring one if such be the case. Either way, there's a droolin' dog outside trying to get in because some dude rang a bell.

[Group Bitcoin]

Any economic philosophy - capitalism included - that tells you humans must WORK for the right to EXIST is a LIE! Capitalism is ignorance, and therefore it is evil.

This doesn't even make sense.  Values (food, shelter, etc) have to come from somewhere.  If I'm not going to earn them myself, that means someone else has to.

See, this is why you can't argue politics/philosophy with Beliathion.  Smart guy, love his enthusiasm for Bitcoin, but too many confused assumptions rattling around in his head.  (No offense)

Facts be told, I sometimes can be accused of the same thing, albeit I'm trying my damdest to get you folks to see outside the box oppose to remaining inside with some smelly dead cat, or a uber-purring one if such be the case. Either way, there's a droolin' dog outside trying to get in because some dude rang a bell.

An 'uber-purring one' is probably preferable.

[FreebieZoner]

There is no faith in people,  greed always takes over.   That's the down side of crypto.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Any economic philosophy - capitalism included - that tells you humans must WORK for the right to EXIST is a LIE! Capitalism is ignorance, and therefore it is evil.

This doesn't even make sense.  Values (food, shelter, etc) have to come from somewhere.  If I'm not going to earn them myself, that means someone else has to.

See, this is why you can't argue politics/philosophy with Beliathion.  Smart guy, love his enthusiasm for Bitcoin, but too many confused assumptions rattling around in his head.  (No offense)

Facts be told, I sometimes can be accused of the same thing, albeit I'm trying my damdest to get you folks to see outside the box oppose to remaining inside with some smelly dead cat, or a uber-purring one if such be the case. Either way, there's a droolin' dog outside trying to get in because some dude rang a bell.

An 'uber-purring one' is probably preferable.

As in PoleKat?

[jc01480]

Wow, you guys believe more in the principle than you do the technology.  Fuck...

[jonald_fyookball]

Wow, you guys believe more in the principle than you do the technology.  Fuck...

Whatcha talkin bout Willis

[harlenadler]

To be honest, the Bitcoin Foundation is a huge black eye for bitcoin, and I get the impression that it, and insiders connected to it, have far too much control over the protocol. Open source or not, core devs do not answer to you and they may answer to others. I, for one, think there is too much centralization around bitcoin's development.