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May 25, 2014, 12:08:31 AM
Last edit: May 25, 2014, 01:08:04 AM by chrocht
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Good news everyone,

I managed to setup DNS servers which are resolving Bitcoin top level domain.
It's an experimental project and now it's in early test stage, but I decided to write down this post so anyone can test it, join development or just let me know that this whole idea is incredibly stupid.

About this project:
I don't really know why I registered this TLD in first place. But I remember lot of beer and business plan for selling domains which cannot possibly fail Grin
Because this domains is in alternative root, it will be hard to get it widely recognized. But on the other hand I think it's not as impossible as it may look.
It's great opportunity to make DNS system little more decentralized, but still compatible with official one. The ultimate goal is to create a platform which will handle name resolution, domain registration, payments and disputes from single interface.
If possible, I will try to get this domain into official root servers, but I'm definitely not going to pay ICANN fees.
Any ideas or contributions to this project are welcomed.
 
Basic facts:

  • This is not gTLD recognized by ICANN (www.icann.org). You will need to change your DNS settings to use it.
  • Domain is registered by INAIC (inaic.com) registrar tld.name (alternative to ICANN) as pTLD (public TLD)
  • DNS records were successfully added to Public-root servers (public-root.com) (alternative to official root servers, available for public use)
  • Two name servers with TLD zone are running and are available for public use
  • Any DNS compatible with Public-root should be able to resolve this domain (+many other pTLDs and cTLDs from INAIC)



DNS servers:

ns0.bitcoin128.127.111.25
ns1.bitcoin77.78.104.136

                         
Test page: www.bitcoin


Because this project can easily go wrong, I delegated all responsibility to Dr. Zoidberg. You can trust him, he is a doctor.

http://zoidberg.eu/ZoidbergTrust.jpg


Current offer:

  • You can register domain right now for 0.025 BTC, just PM me or mail directly to Dr. Zoidberg (doctor {at} zoidberg.eu).
  • You will need to provide your desired domain name, email address, bitcoin address (you have to be able to sign message with it) and DNS records you want to set up.
  • There is no expiration time for domains registered this way. Precisely speaking this domains will expire if this project is discontinued.
  • Lot of things can go wrong, there is no guarantee of service availability. Use this service at your own risk.
  • If you need access to your yourdomain.bitcoin website from regular Internet, you can use our famous plumbing services and access your site through yourdomain.bitcoin.plumbing. Ask Dr. Zoidberg to get your plumbing functionality enabled for free.
  • There are no terms of service right now, service is operated by incompetent crustacean on non-regular basis. When in doubt, please respect our policy:  "All hail Zoidberg! The king with the box!"
  • This offer is valid until canceled.

Project status:

  • only 2 DNS servers are operational
  • domain registration is manual
  • no interface for DNS record changes yet, just Zoidberg
  • no website yet
  • only IPv4 supported

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December 05, 2014, 09:13:43 AM
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Great work! I definitely agree that we need a top level domain for Bitcoin.
What about ".btc"? When I tried your link in Firefox I got redirected to bitcoin.com.
For this to be successful, we might need browser plugins to make it work, or find some way to get registered legitimately through ICANN.
I'm imagining that 1somebitcoinaddress.btc will link to the OS's preferred bitcoin wallet program, similar to how "mailto:" works.

I was hoping that Namecoin would become a blockchain solution to domain names but it hasn't done that.  We need a DNS coin that maps domains to IP addresses, but domain names should be controlled by existing domain holders in order to get off the ground.  Domains are too expensive, could a blockchain dns root cut the fees down like Bitcoin has done for money transfers?
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December 05, 2014, 11:18:34 AM
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Do these nameservers resolve anything not ending in .bitcoin as something like 8.8.8.8 normally would, with all records?

Also, when will IPv6 be supported?

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BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL, IF YOU USE HIS DNS SERVERS HE CAN FEED YOU PHISHING SITES VERY EASILY. THAT CAN BE USED TO STEAL YOUR BITCOINS FROM YOUR WEB WALLET.

Is it possible for OP to configure his root to pass DNSSEC from existing roots and/or TLDs?

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January 31, 2015, 09:11:05 PM
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Sorry for late update, but you don't need to worry about security, because this project seems to be dead for few months :-)

DNS servers should be still working, but in very restricted mode, very few IPs are whitelisted and recursion is disabled.  It can still work if you use DNS provider which resolves Public-root domains, but your chance is slim. Last time I checked, there was only one Public-root server running, so I think that there is no point to run bitcoin domain in alternative root.  Also demand was very low, I actually received more complaints from hosting providers, than domain registrations :-)
For some reason, running idle open-recursive DNS servers with no restrictions attracts bad people, who use it to for DDOS amplification attacks against even worse people.

It was fun, but now I want to waste time and money on different projects. If someone is able to get oficial ICANN domain, it would be nice. But I'm afraid that market is very small. Non-bitcoin people will not give a fuck.

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February 03, 2015, 10:07:39 PM
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Well, allow me to daydream for a while.

Yes, I have also felt it would be great to have a "paralell" internet going on. That sounds dangerous or appear to be house of illegal activity (kind of silk road). But that has also been on and on in philosophical and practical discussions... restricting access to (or actually, control of ) a technology ensures that only government and criminals will use (control) it.

I've envisioned enthusiasts here and there offering wifi access to "othernet". That would sound like a joke to ISPs I suppose (no way to compete), and yet, VPN access to the othernet through the internet would perhaps be the good stuff. Little by little, content, economy, etc., would be going *through* the internet rather than *in* it only.

You know, if Bitcoin presumably is making big financial entities to reconsider faith in the all mighty dollar, why not a crypto-net (another name of othernet) be a trigger to slowly force Icann to allow an actually anarchical net administration?

Yes, my ideas might be rather unprecise or suggest unefficient setups... (the biggest net I ever set up had four computers :-P )... but I guess that was also said of building "paralell" economics some decades ago. The issues arisee in the "translation" of one realm (Fiat currency or Internet) to the other (BTC or cryptonet).

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