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May 25, 2014, 11:46:22 PM
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paradoxes time! Since I love paradoxes, I'd love to see all the paradoxes you know. Here's one:

If a crocodile steals a child and promises its return if the father can correctly guess exactly what the crocodile will do, how should the crocodile respond in the case that the father correctly guesses that the child will not be returned?

Do you have any? or even better if you tought of one?


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May 25, 2014, 11:48:33 PM
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This statement is false.

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May 25, 2014, 11:56:27 PM
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Well I found interesting article about paradoxes:

"20 Paradoxes That Are True"
http://markmanson.net/paradoxes

one of my favorites quotes:

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The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change.

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May 26, 2014, 12:01:50 AM
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Well I found interesting article about paradoxes:

"20 Paradoxes That Are True"
http://markmanson.net/paradoxes

one of my favorites quotes:

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The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change.




Someo of those actualy made me sad. Sad


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May 26, 2014, 12:12:14 AM
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This is not a reply

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May 26, 2014, 12:13:47 AM
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Does anything have to do with tears?

Hey, smexy. Don't waste your time. Time's precious.
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May 26, 2014, 02:39:31 AM
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If a crocodile steals a child and promises its return if the father can correctly guess exactly what the crocodile will do, how should the crocodile respond in the case that the father correctly guesses that the child will not be returned?
That's not a paradox. If the father correctly guesses that the child will not be returned, then the child obviously will not be returned, by definition of his being correct. The crocodile is simply a liar (this is a trait common not only to crocodiles, but talking animals in general).

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May 26, 2014, 02:46:34 AM
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Some games are guaranteed to terminate in a fixed amount of time. For example, tournament chess has time limits. Call a game that is guaranteed to terminate in a fixed amount of time "normal". Now, consider this game:

1) Two players are required.

2) The first player is chosen arbitrarily.

3) The first player has one minute to choose any normal game or they lose and the game ends.

4) The chosen game is played to its conclusion.

5) The winner of the chosen game wins.

Let's call this game "hypergame". The paradox: Is hypergame normal?

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May 26, 2014, 02:51:58 AM
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One more paradox: Aliens come to Earth with a brain scanner. The brain scanner appears to be able to predict human behavior with astonishing accuracy. To demonstrate its power and their generosity, the aliens present each human with two sealed boxes and a choice. The first box contains either a single dose of a potion that will prevent all disease or is empty. The second box always contains $20. Your choice is simple. You may choose either just the first box or both boxes.

You are standing in line and reason that when it's your turn to choose, the contents of both boxes are unchangeable. They are what they are. So you are better off choosing both boxes rather than just one. But then as you observe the people ahead of you in line, you notice that those who chose both boxes get just $20 while those that choose just the first box get the potion. You realize that the aliens must be using the brain scanning machine to determine whether each person will pick both boxes or just the first box and if they determine that they will pick both boxes, they make the first box empty.

What do you do?

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May 26, 2014, 03:44:26 AM
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Check this out:

Time traveler's story - Dr. Michio Kaku: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfmsqosEDF4


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May 26, 2014, 08:26:36 AM
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Check this out:

Time traveler's story - Dr. Michio Kaku: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfmsqosEDF4



I figured this time story out, its quite sick  Smiley

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May 26, 2014, 08:43:19 AM
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Check this out:

Time traveler's story - Dr. Michio Kaku: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfmsqosEDF4



maybe im missing the point of the story.. but what is it? it even goes as far as to ignore logic, implying that you could get a sex change and reproduce by another version of yourself.

is the whole point supposed to be about a time/feedback loop? is that the only mind blowing thing?
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May 26, 2014, 11:07:10 AM
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Some games are guaranteed to terminate in a fixed amount of time. For example, tournament chess has time limits. Call a game that is guaranteed to terminate in a fixed amount of time "normal". Now, consider this game:

1) Two players are required.

2) The first player is chosen arbitrarily.

3) The first player chooses any normal game.

4) The game is played to its conclusions.

5) The winner of the chosen game wins.

Let's call this game "hypergame". The paradox: Is hypergame normal?


The game time has a fixed limit therefore the game limit is normal and the game time is not.
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May 26, 2014, 11:36:05 AM
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I've got a paradox...

The established method for calculating the temperature of the sun is by it's colour in reference to molten iron.

Why is a blue LED not hotter than the sun?   
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May 26, 2014, 01:10:01 PM
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The Classical Raven Paradox:

1) All ravens are black.

2) Everything that is not black is a raven.

3) Nevermore, my pet raven, is black.

4) This green (and thus not black) thing is an apple (and thus not a raven).

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"The ship wherein Theseus and the youth of Athens returned from Crete had thirty oars, and was preserved by the Athenians down even to the time of Demetrius Phalereus, for they took away the old planks as they decayed, putting in new and stronger timber in their place, in so much that this ship became a standing example among the philosophers, for the logical question of things that grow; one side holding that the ship remained the same, and the other contending that it was not the same."

Omnipotence Paradox:

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If a being can perform any action, then it should be able to create a task which this being is unable to perform; hence, this being cannot perform all actions. Yet, on the other hand, if this being cannot create a task that it is unable to perform, then there exists something it cannot do.

"Can [an omnipotent being] create a stone so heavy that it cannot lift it?"
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May 26, 2014, 05:41:56 PM
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physicists are made of atoms. a physicist is an attempt by an atom to understand itself.
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May 26, 2014, 07:10:07 PM
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I've got a paradox...

The established method for calculating the temperature of the sun is by it's colour in reference to molten iron.

Why is a blue LED not hotter than the sun?   

That's just you not understanding basic science.

physicists are made of atoms. a physicist is an attempt by an atom to understand itself.


Trying to understand one's self is NOT a paradox.

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May 26, 2014, 08:13:54 PM
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I've got a paradox...

The established method for calculating the temperature of the sun is by it's colour in reference to molten iron.

Why is a blue LED not hotter than the sun?   

That's just you not understanding basic science.

physicists are made of atoms. a physicist is an attempt by an atom to understand itself.


Trying to understand one's self is NOT a paradox.

Perhaps you would care to explain it if this science is so basic.
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May 26, 2014, 08:18:06 PM
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I've got a paradox...

The established method for calculating the temperature of the sun is by it's colour in reference to molten iron.

Why is a blue LED not hotter than the sun?   

That's just you not understanding basic science.

physicists are made of atoms. a physicist is an attempt by an atom to understand itself.


Trying to understand one's self is NOT a paradox.

Perhaps you would care to explain it if this science is so basic.

The amount of power going into an LED is very, very small. If you were to put more than the power of the sun into an LED, it'd be hotter than the sun -- and a good chance not blue anymore.

The color of an LED doesn't really show it's temperature, as the temperature is invisible to the naked eye (because it's so low). We use shadings to show the color.

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May 26, 2014, 08:52:28 PM
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I've got a paradox...

The established method for calculating the temperature of the sun is by it's colour in reference to molten iron.

Why is a blue LED not hotter than the sun?   

That's just you not understanding basic science.

physicists are made of atoms. a physicist is an attempt by an atom to understand itself.


Trying to understand one's self is NOT a paradox.

Perhaps you would care to explain it if this science is so basic.

The amount of power going into an LED is very, very small. If you were to put more than the power of the sun into an LED, it'd be hotter than the sun -- and a good chance not blue anymore.

The color of an LED doesn't really show it's temperature, as the temperature is invisible to the naked eye (because it's so low). We use shadings to show the color.

This doesn't explain why colour can be used to determine the sun's tempeture but not that of an LED. You've simply stated that the sun has more power.

If I have enough LEDs strung together and power them all with the equivalent power of the sun they still won't be any hotter.
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