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February 05, 2012, 03:39:58 AM
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"THREE JUVENILES accused of assaulting a cabdriver and his passenger in Center City Saturday night while shouting racial slurs will not be charged with a hate crime, the District Attorney's Office said yesterday.

The teens, who are black, were not charged with hate crimes because there was no evidence that the assault had been motivated by the race of the victims [what?], who are white, said Tasha Jamerson, D.A. spokeswoman. Just shouting racial epithets during the commission of a crime doesn't rise to the level of ethnic intimidation, she said.
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http://articles.philly.com/2012-02-03/news/31021741_1_three-teens-racial-slurs-racial-epithets

I agree that shouting racial slurs in the commission of a crime is not in an of itself a hate crime, however when the targets of the crime are both the target of the slurs and the race slurred, they I vehemently disagree on the basis of equal protection under the law, and feel it is a hate crime under the law. That said I do not agree with the hate crime legislation aggrivating factors that raise the level of the crime committed.

I think that DA should check out the plethora if cases where white assailants shouting racial epithets/slurs have victimized blacks and were subsiquently charged with hate crimes.

Isn't it nice to have equal protection under the law ...

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February 05, 2012, 04:24:47 AM
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What do you think about reparations? Missed wages paid for the work done while enslaved. The best time to do this would have been soon after the civil war but political realities made it impossible. Now we are multiple generations removed so it is more complicated. Still, I feel something like this should have been done.
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February 05, 2012, 08:52:02 AM
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What do you think about reparations? Missed wages paid for the work done while enslaved. The best time to do this would have been soon after the civil war but political realities made it impossible. Now we are multiple generations removed so it is more complicated. Still, I feel something like this should have been done.

Both branches of Barack Obama's family arrive in the US after the Civil War.  Should he pay reparations for slavery?

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February 05, 2012, 12:41:55 PM
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What do you think about reparations? Missed wages paid for the work done while enslaved. The best time to do this would have been soon after the civil war but political realities made it impossible. Now we are multiple generations removed so it is more complicated. Still, I feel something like this should have been done.

I agree wholeheartedly with reparations to the families of the enslaved by the plantation owners families that created the multi-national conglomerates and ruling and political elitists of today, inclusive of the families of the blacks back then, right down to all of our families enslaved to this very day. It makes no difference if its chains and a whip, or prison, theft of our wealth and freedoms, and debt at the point of a gun we have today.

Additionally, I have problems with all human slavery that has gone on for thousands of years that have created the worlds ruling bloodlines and stores of wealth beyond imagination, all off the backs of every race of people, and reparations are owing and due. The people just need to stand up to claim them and take them...by force if necessary.

That said, since we must live in this system, I believe in equality for all. Black, white, yellow, brown, red, or purple... with no agendas, class distinctions, race distinctions, and certainly not a refusal to meter out equal justice under the law of in lieu of reparations for a few.

Don't want to meter out equal justice under the law?

Then repeal the legislation allowing for aggrivated "hate crime" sentances that situationally increase penalties for some, while lessening sentances for others. It's not equal justice under the law. I have my own problems with ordinance and statue law, but thats for another thread..

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February 16, 2012, 07:27:25 PM
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Can please somebody explain to an antediluvian european brain what a hate crime is and how you tell it apart from a non-hate crime?

Exaggeration makes descriptive: Assume I shoot some republican presidential candidates.
Is this a love crime, because it is done out of pure love for the american people and the well being of the whole world.

The paining (sic!) is done with the QPainter class inside the paintEvent() method.
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February 16, 2012, 08:07:25 PM
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Can please somebody explain to an antediluvian european brain what a hate crime is and how you tell it apart from a non-hate crime?

Exaggeration makes descriptive: Assume I shoot some republican presidential candidates.
Is this a love crime, because it is done out of pure love for the american people and the well being of the whole world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Stephen_Lawrence

Victim selected almost at random and killed for the one non-random feature.  In this case, his skin colour.

If instead of selecting him for skin colour, they selected him because he was worth robbing, then the same crime carried out by the same guys with the same racist insults would not be a hate crime.


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February 16, 2012, 09:07:10 PM
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Interesting concept of justice.
Guess the the reason why and then punish accordingly.

So be wise and (pretend to) act always in pure love and for the well being of your victims.
 .. might help you now and again whilst dragged to court.  Cheesy

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February 16, 2012, 10:21:05 PM
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Interesting concept of justice.
Guess the the reason why and then punish accordingly.

So be wise and (pretend to) act always in pure love and for the well being of your victims.
 .. might help you now and again whilst dragged to court.  Cheesy

Surely you would be better off to deny stabbing the guy at all? 

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