helipotte
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^^^
This!
Please bring these servers back up.
Stales are high here in US using UK servers.
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jawitech
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November 08, 2014, 01:48:30 AM |
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HAHA CEX.io and Ghash.io are scammers at their finest, my examples below have been taken directly from my History and balances based on 2 GHS imagine this dudes rewards on 1600GHS hahaha he is PISSED right now.
2014-11-08 05:46:26 -0.00000207 BTC 0.00002494 MAINTENANCE - Shares 4096 , Cost: -0.00000207 2014-11-08 05:46:26 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002701 MINING - Block #329005, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000105
2014-11-08 03:19:20 -0.00000259 BTC 0.00002549 MAINTENANCE - Shares 5120 , Cost: -0.00000259 2014-11-08 03:19:20 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002808 MINING - Block #328991, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000157
2014-11-08 00:02:09 -0.00000181 BTC 0.00002682 MAINTENANCE - Shares 3584 , Cost: -0.00000181 2014-11-08 00:02:09 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002863 MINING - Block #328974, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000079
2014-11-07 21:51:55 -0.00000130 BTC 0.00002710 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2560 , Cost: -0.00000130 2014-11-07 21:51:55 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002840 MINING - Block #328965, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000028
2014-11-07 20:25:40 -0.00000104 BTC 0.00002738 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2048 , Cost: -0.00000104 2014-11-07 20:25:40 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002842 MINING - Block #328957, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000002
2014-11-07 19:30:42 -0.00000156 BTC 0.00002740 MAINTENANCE - Shares 3072 , Cost: -0.00000156 2014-11-07 19:30:42 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002896 MINING - Block #328953, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000054
2014-11-07 17:34:39 -0.00000105 BTC 0.00002744 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2048 , Cost: -0.00000105 2014-11-07 17:34:39 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002849 MINING - Block #328944, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000003
2014-11-07 15:02:34 -0.00000158 BTC 0.00002604 MAINTENANCE - Shares 3072 , Cost: -0.00000158 2014-11-07 15:02:34 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002762 MINING - Block #328926, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000056
2014-11-07 10:55:11 -0.00000136 BTC 0.00002463 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2560 , Cost: -0.00000136 2014-11-07 10:55:11 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002599 MINING - Block #328894, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000034
2014-11-07 07:43:29 -0.00000105 BTC 0.00002202 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2048 , Cost: -0.00000105 2014-11-07 07:43:29 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002307 MINING - Block #328869, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000003
2014-11-07 06:41:20 -0.00000298 BTC 0.00002205 MAINTENANCE - Shares 5632 , Cost: -0.00000298 2014-11-07 06:41:20 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002503 MINING - Block #328867, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000196
2014-11-07 04:01:07 -0.00000210 BTC 0.00002401 MAINTENANCE - Shares 4096 , Cost: -0.00000210 2014-11-07 04:01:07 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002611 MINING - Block #328849, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000108
2014-11-07 00:17:47 -0.00000132 BTC 0.00002105 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2560 , Cost: -0.00000132 2014-11-07 00:17:47 0.00000119 BTC 0.00002237 MINING - Block #328827, Reward: 0.00000119 LOSS OF 0.00000013
2014-11-06 23:12:02 -0.00000420 BTC 0.00002118 MAINTENANCE - Shares 8192 , Cost: -0.00000420 2014-11-06 23:12:02 0.00000103 BTC 0.00002538 MINING - Block #328819, Reward: 0.00000103 LOSS OF 0.00000317
2014-11-06 19:04:58 -0.00000132 BTC 0.00002435 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2560 , Cost: -0.00000132 2014-11-06 19:04:58 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002567 MINING - Block #328798, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000030
Based on these calculations Dude with 1600 GHS on Cex.io LOST 0.00947792 on his cloud mining
ARE YOU SERIOUIS GHASH, HEY CEX explain losses from your cloud mining all the time, rewards are always smaller than the costs, why are there sooooooo many lost balances from using your cloud mining??
Are you miners seeing this shit, see the rewards are SMALLER than the costs, how much more proof do you need CEX is getting RICH off YOU!!!!
Nothing new, has been reported several times at bitcointalk. Profits are BTC/GH/Day while maintenance is in USD. Low BTC price leads to more costs than profit. Nearly all cloud mining services work like this, but at least some give you some little profit (< 50%). You can only make more profit with a higher BTC price.
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cyberpinoy
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November 08, 2014, 07:49:11 AM |
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HAHA CEX.io and Ghash.io are scammers at their finest, my examples below have been taken directly from my History and balances based on 2 GHS imagine this dudes rewards on 1600GHS hahaha he is PISSED right now.
2014-11-08 05:46:26 -0.00000207 BTC 0.00002494 MAINTENANCE - Shares 4096 , Cost: -0.00000207 2014-11-08 05:46:26 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002701 MINING - Block #329005, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000105
2014-11-08 03:19:20 -0.00000259 BTC 0.00002549 MAINTENANCE - Shares 5120 , Cost: -0.00000259 2014-11-08 03:19:20 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002808 MINING - Block #328991, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000157
2014-11-08 00:02:09 -0.00000181 BTC 0.00002682 MAINTENANCE - Shares 3584 , Cost: -0.00000181 2014-11-08 00:02:09 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002863 MINING - Block #328974, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000079
2014-11-07 21:51:55 -0.00000130 BTC 0.00002710 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2560 , Cost: -0.00000130 2014-11-07 21:51:55 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002840 MINING - Block #328965, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000028
2014-11-07 20:25:40 -0.00000104 BTC 0.00002738 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2048 , Cost: -0.00000104 2014-11-07 20:25:40 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002842 MINING - Block #328957, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000002
2014-11-07 19:30:42 -0.00000156 BTC 0.00002740 MAINTENANCE - Shares 3072 , Cost: -0.00000156 2014-11-07 19:30:42 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002896 MINING - Block #328953, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000054
2014-11-07 17:34:39 -0.00000105 BTC 0.00002744 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2048 , Cost: -0.00000105 2014-11-07 17:34:39 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002849 MINING - Block #328944, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000003
2014-11-07 15:02:34 -0.00000158 BTC 0.00002604 MAINTENANCE - Shares 3072 , Cost: -0.00000158 2014-11-07 15:02:34 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002762 MINING - Block #328926, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000056
2014-11-07 10:55:11 -0.00000136 BTC 0.00002463 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2560 , Cost: -0.00000136 2014-11-07 10:55:11 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002599 MINING - Block #328894, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000034
2014-11-07 07:43:29 -0.00000105 BTC 0.00002202 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2048 , Cost: -0.00000105 2014-11-07 07:43:29 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002307 MINING - Block #328869, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000003
2014-11-07 06:41:20 -0.00000298 BTC 0.00002205 MAINTENANCE - Shares 5632 , Cost: -0.00000298 2014-11-07 06:41:20 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002503 MINING - Block #328867, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000196
2014-11-07 04:01:07 -0.00000210 BTC 0.00002401 MAINTENANCE - Shares 4096 , Cost: -0.00000210 2014-11-07 04:01:07 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002611 MINING - Block #328849, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000108
2014-11-07 00:17:47 -0.00000132 BTC 0.00002105 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2560 , Cost: -0.00000132 2014-11-07 00:17:47 0.00000119 BTC 0.00002237 MINING - Block #328827, Reward: 0.00000119 LOSS OF 0.00000013
2014-11-06 23:12:02 -0.00000420 BTC 0.00002118 MAINTENANCE - Shares 8192 , Cost: -0.00000420 2014-11-06 23:12:02 0.00000103 BTC 0.00002538 MINING - Block #328819, Reward: 0.00000103 LOSS OF 0.00000317
2014-11-06 19:04:58 -0.00000132 BTC 0.00002435 MAINTENANCE - Shares 2560 , Cost: -0.00000132 2014-11-06 19:04:58 0.00000102 BTC 0.00002567 MINING - Block #328798, Reward: 0.00000102 LOSS OF 0.00000030
Based on these calculations Dude with 1600 GHS on Cex.io LOST 0.00947792 on his cloud mining
ARE YOU SERIOUIS GHASH, HEY CEX explain losses from your cloud mining all the time, rewards are always smaller than the costs, why are there sooooooo many lost balances from using your cloud mining??
Are you miners seeing this shit, see the rewards are SMALLER than the costs, how much more proof do you need CEX is getting RICH off YOU!!!!
Nothing new, has been reported several times at bitcointalk. Profits are BTC/GH/Day while maintenance is in USD. Low BTC price leads to more costs than profit. Nearly all cloud mining services work like this, but at least some give you some little profit (< 50%). You can only make more profit with a higher BTC price. It has nothing to do with the BTC/GH/Day and cash value of maintenance, it has to do with unethically charging you fees for every single share your cloud mining submits and only paying a reward on an N shares at the end of a solved block. It ahs nothing to do with electric costys it has to do with filling their pockets with our hard earned BTC. Please keep in mind I also own way more miners than I have cloud on Ghash.io, I own way more cloud on a few other pools i mine with too. I know EXACTLY how much it costs to run the machines because i pay the electric costs for the ones we own. It is not the costs of electricity that is causing this, it is the unethical business practices of Ghash.io making sure they can profit more than any miners in their pool. they profit roughly 79BTC per day on maintenance fees on their cloud GHS. PROFIT. Unfortunately you are very incorrect about all cloud mining doing this, I only see HUGE fees associated with cloud that cause you a loss in the mining you do on GHASH.io/CEX.IO as I have many accocunts with many pools, I have been able to compare Ghash with many other pools cloud and regular. they pay you 50% of the work your own machines put in, charge you for 100 percent of the shares you cloud submits but only pay you for a small portion of those shares in their pplns system of pool profit. Please dont defend them so more new miners can be scammed and ripped off by this ignorant unethical pool. Not one other cloud mining pool have I ever LOST BTC at the end of a day. the reward is ALWAYS more then the fees ALWAYS!! There is absolutely NEVER a reason you should lose BTC in cloud mining. No matter how you do it miners make minimum 50% profit after electricity costs. If GHASH.io and CEX.io are not getting these figures they are doing something wrong, dont make your pool members pay for you own stupidity. Thank goodness china stepped up and put them in their place as far as the 51% attack goes. They felt all high and mighty until china stepped in and showed them who the real pros were in bitcoin mining.
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Micky25
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November 08, 2014, 12:02:54 PM |
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I have some bonus GHS and get maintenance deducted for them. I wonder if its worth it?
Is the income from these bonus GHS higher than the maintenance fees?
If not, how do I get rid of them? (Not want to be ungrateful though).
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Searing
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November 09, 2014, 07:51:08 AM |
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not sure if this is right thread...but newb here so be warned (feel free to skip)
I have a no roi no refund knc Titan 300mh unit just today...it has so far managed NOT to burn the house down for which I am grateful
however ..thru some twist of fate mine actually seems to run around 300mh (I know I'm shocked too)
so with the VAIN hope I MAY just be able to get 1/2 of my 10k investment back in this future door stop (of course 1/4 of that is equip depreciation)
my question is ...I am setup on the ghash.io mulitipool option with btc conversion
I see a lot of coin like AUR and MEC etc that pay nothing my share of conversion to BTC am I missing something or should I be
just checking them off the (i assume) on same page list of coins being mined and pick and choose?
or is the better strategy just to hit the box saying DO NOT convert AUR LTC etc etc and cash them out another day?
strategy on this (of wtf just shuffle me off to the lite coin pool...i'm so green at scrypt mining...prob where I should start anyway)
i've other guestions will see what the reception here is...you guys may come after me with torches and pitchforks for even having a Titan
I prob deserve it.....ego always gets ya....(a more humble miner as we speak .but still a newbie scrypt miner don't ya know)
pm me if you are really feeling charitable or let me have it here
Searing
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Old Style Legacy Plug & Play BBS System. Get it from www.synchro.net. Updated 1/1/2021. It also works with Windows 10 and likely 11 and allows 16 bit DOS game doors on the same Win 10 Machine in Multi-Node! Five Minute Install! Look it over it uninstalls just as fast, if you simply want to look it over. Freeware! Full BBS System! It is a frigging hoot!:)
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cyberpinoy
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November 09, 2014, 08:56:39 AM |
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I have some bonus GHS and get maintenance deducted for them. I wonder if its worth it?
Is the income from these bonus GHS higher than the maintenance fees?
If not, how do I get rid of them? (Not want to be ungrateful though).
if you scroll up and look at my report I pulled directly from my Ghash.io account you can see for yourself Ghash.io cloud is NEVER worth it. if at anytime the cloud you have as a bonus or that you bought ever takes a chance to actually cost you BTC it is never worth it. you shoud never at any time during any block have a fee that is higher than the reward costing you BTC in the end. NEVER. not sure if this is right thread...but newb here so be warned (feel free to skip)
I have a no roi no refund knc Titan 300mh unit just today...it has so far managed NOT to burn the house down for which I am grateful
however ..thru some twist of fate mine actually seems to run around 300mh (I know I'm shocked too)
so with the VAIN hope I MAY just be able to get 1/2 of my 10k investment back in this future door stop (of course 1/4 of that is equip depreciation)
my question is ...I am setup on the ghash.io mulitipool option with btc conversion
I see a lot of coin like AUR and MEC etc that pay nothing my share of conversion to BTC am I missing something or should I be
just checking them off the (i assume) on same page list of coins being mined and pick and choose?
or is the better strategy just to hit the box saying DO NOT convert AUR LTC etc etc and cash them out another day?
strategy on this (of wtf just shuffle me off to the lite coin pool...i'm so green at scrypt mining...prob where I should start anyway)
i've other guestions will see what the reception here is...you guys may come after me with torches and pitchforks for even having a Titan
I prob deserve it.....ego always gets ya....(a more humble miner as we speak .but still a newbie scrypt miner don't ya know)
pm me if you are really feeling charitable or let me have it here
Searing
Try a different pool. Like maybe coinking.io That one has a much higher rates than my machine is even supposed to have, and you can pick the coins you bwant to ine or choose thier multipool. Ghash.io has had a lot of payout problems in their multipool. A lot of us have left because they either are not reporting the correct hashrates, or they are not reporting blocks we solved in our financial statements or they just simply are not paying them at all. MNy advice before you start pulling your hair out try a few other pools to make sure it your machine and not Ghash.io. Also check your difficultry settings and if you have one your freq settings in your command lines. make sure theyall are correct.
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jddebug
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November 09, 2014, 11:38:26 AM |
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Pool down? All my miners are on backup pool.
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Searing
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November 09, 2014, 12:54:21 PM |
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Pool down? All my miners are on backup pool.
no idea i'm a newbie i can't even tell if i'm being paid yet (titan 300mh) sure am making good time thou..but clueless on how exactly this pool pays out or not or what? pointers? or is it dorked can't get into finance section says maintence but miner is chugging away (new to scrypt as of 3 hrs ago... )
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Old Style Legacy Plug & Play BBS System. Get it from www.synchro.net. Updated 1/1/2021. It also works with Windows 10 and likely 11 and allows 16 bit DOS game doors on the same Win 10 Machine in Multi-Node! Five Minute Install! Look it over it uninstalls just as fast, if you simply want to look it over. Freeware! Full BBS System! It is a frigging hoot!:)
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cesarm
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November 09, 2014, 05:34:09 PM |
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Why I cant remove my funds ?
I already mined the whole week with ~4TH and got only 0.24365042, now I cant transfer it to my wallet.
Oops! Sorry! Error: Insufficient funds
Oops! Sorry! Error: Insufficient funds
Oops! Sorry! Error: Insufficient funds
Oops! Sorry! Error: Insufficient funds
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furiousbtc
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November 10, 2014, 09:20:05 AM |
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I am getting the same error Why I cant remove my funds ?
I already mined the whole week with ~4TH and got only 0.24365042, now I cant transfer it to my wallet.
Oops! Sorry! Error: Insufficient funds
Oops! Sorry! Error: Insufficient funds
Oops! Sorry! Error: Insufficient funds
Oops! Sorry! Error: Insufficient funds
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abracadabra
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November 10, 2014, 03:16:07 PM |
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No problems here. Try reducing your withdrawal by 1 satoshi. Could be a rounding error. It's happened to me in the past.
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furcointalk
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November 11, 2014, 12:18:24 AM |
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100% reject rate on multipool.
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lowbander80
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November 11, 2014, 07:48:38 PM |
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I have stopped using the multipool.am not happy how it works and the payouts of mining shitty coins like aurora coin are rediculus.Also the frequent change of coins and the setting that allows you to either dump the coin and go to the next more profitable makes it just loosing time.If you opt to continue mining the shitty coin you may end mining a block for many many hours . then a disconnect happens and you loose everything so multipool on ghash I am not happy with.I mine with Ghash ltc and doge and other miners are with coinotron.
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lovewiki
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November 13, 2014, 11:39:43 AM Last edit: November 14, 2014, 08:50:24 PM by ckolivas |
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It has nothing to do with the BTC/GH/Day and cash value of maintenance, it has to do with unethically charging you fees for every single share your cloud mining submits and only paying a reward on an N shares at the end of a solved block. It ahs nothing to do with electric costys it has to do with filling their pockets with our hard earned BTC.
Please keep in mind I also own way more miners than I have cloud on Ghash.io, I own way more cloud on a few other pools i mine with too. I know EXACTLY how much it costs to run the machines because i pay the electric costs for the ones we own. It is not the costs of electricity that is causing this, it is the unethical business practices of Ghash.io making sure they can profit more than any miners in their pool. they profit roughly 79BTC per day on maintenance fees on their cloud GHS. PROFIT. Unfortunately you are very incorrect about all cloud mining doing this, I only see HUGE fees associated with cloud that cause you a loss in the mining you do on GHASH.io/CEX.IO as I have many accocunts with many pools, I have been able to compare Ghash with many other pools cloud and regular. they pay you 50% of the work your own machines put in, charge you for 100 percent of the shares you cloud submits but only pay you for a small portion of those shares in their pplns system of pool profit.
Please dont defend them so more new miners can be scammed and ripped off by this ignorant unethical pool. Not one other cloud mining pool have I ever LOST BTC at the end of a day. the reward is ALWAYS more then the fees ALWAYS!! There is absolutely NEVER a reason you should lose BTC in cloud mining. No matter how you do it miners make minimum 50% profit after electricity costs. If GHASH.io and CEX.io are not getting these figures they are doing something wrong, dont make your pool members pay for you own stupidity.
Thank goodness china stepped up and put them in their place as far as the 51% attack goes. They felt all high and mighty until china stepped in and showed them who the real pros were in bitcoin mining.
I have accounts on other cloud mining services too and GHASH.io/CEX.io is the only one that can possibly give me negative rewards. Another crazy thing is that we see our total balance dropping everyday but we still can't do anything. I strongly suggest we should at least be given an option to pause the GHS mining on GHASH.io/CEX.io when our rewards go negative. Even better if the system can pause automatically so that we don't need to monitor our balance on our own everyday.
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picolo
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November 14, 2014, 08:47:54 PM Last edit: November 14, 2014, 08:50:51 PM by ckolivas |
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I have accounts on other cloud mining services too and GHASH.io/CEX.io is the only one that can possibly give me negative rewards.
Another crazy thing is that we see our total balance dropping everyday but we still can't do anything.
I strongly suggest we should at least be given an option to pause the GHS mining on GHASH.io/CEX.io when our rewards go negative. Even better if the system can pause automatically so that we don't need to monitor our balance on our own everyday.
It is crazy to loose money to operate the miners! Why not sell the Ghs? 0.0017 is higher than smaller cloudminers such as cloudminr
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gumnaam
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November 17, 2014, 02:44:55 PM |
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If it is official ghash.IO thread then please tell me when you guys are going to introduce scrypt on your site for users I wanted to buy kHS from your site Best and most trusted site Your sites represents trust GHASH.IO means trust
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jawitech
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November 17, 2014, 07:03:09 PM |
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If it is official ghash.IO thread then please tell me when you guys are going to introduce scrypt on your site for users I wanted to buy kHS from your site
You think you will get better profits than mining BTC with them? The maintenance will eat most of your profit, too. Best and most trusted site Your sites represents trust GHASH.IO means trust
Really? From my own experience and reading the posts here, I'd say Ghash.io means ripping off customers with too high maintenance fees, regular server problems and lofts of orphan (=unpaid) blocks. At least for Scrypt, there are many better pools (multi + LTC).
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cyberpinoy
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November 18, 2014, 05:44:12 PM |
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If it is official ghash.IO thread then please tell me when you guys are going to introduce scrypt on your site for users I wanted to buy kHS from your site Best and most trusted site Your sites represents trust GHASH.IO means trust
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA I literally fell off my chair and choked on my pepsi laughing so hard when i read this HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG thank you so much for the good laugh Most trusted?? best?? wow bro you rally are new to the game and just clicked the first cool looking icon you saw in google right. HAHAHAHA
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thatguy42
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November 19, 2014, 04:14:32 PM |
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Why am I charged for maintenance fees 18 days after selling my GH/S. I tried support but they have no answers , first 3 tickets ignored, now they just cut and paste answers that have no bearing on the fact that I get charged for fees 18 days after I emptied account of my miners and GH/S.
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picolo
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November 21, 2014, 01:56:00 PM |
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Why am I charged for maintenance fees 18 days after selling my GH/S. I tried support but they have no answers , first 3 tickets ignored, now they just cut and paste answers that have no bearing on the fact that I get charged for fees 18 days after I emptied account of my miners and GH/S. Try to PM here, try to escalate the tickets to a manager and keep emailing but they must have decided you were suppose to pay those fees.
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