US trains Syrian rebels in Qatar

[Snail2]

The U.S. military is specifically designed to soak taxpayers, not fight wars.
During the last 40 years it has consistently excelled at the former, and failed at the later.

Actually the US military is pretty good I think. But going there, quickly winning the war and then get the hell out of there isn't as good business as tinkering there for a couple of years and dropping more stuff on any random shitholes then on Dresden in '45.

[Charlie Prime]

The U.S. military is pretty good at ripping off taxpayers, not fighting wars.

[atc1]

I really hope Syria does not end up as the Afghanistan of the future. As far as I can tell,these dictators are bad,but the Islamists who seem to come to power once a dictator is removed are much worse,and then you won't even have a reason to interfere in that country's affairs.

[bryant.coleman]

I really hope Syria does not end up as the Afghanistan of the future. As far as I can tell,these dictators are bad,but the Islamists who seem to come to power once a dictator is removed are much worse,and then you won't even have a reason to interfere in that country's affairs.

If the dictators get too much oppressive, then the local population itself will remove them. There is no need for outside interference. I would prefer a dictator to an Islamist as a ruler for any middle-eastern nation. At least the ethnic minorities (such as the Christians, Yazidis, and Mandeans) would be able to live without the threat of abduction and forcible conversion.

[Nathonas]

This kind of news never ever will see the light of day on mainstream American media. So sad. The US has been doing this shit for DECADES! They're probably involved in Ukraine as well. What's even more disturbing is their links with these hyper-rich Arabian countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar - countries that not only have horrible human rights abuses but are likely involved in real terrorism (the kind that blow up buildings with thousands of people, not the kind your politicians talk about these days). 

[kuroman]

This kind of news never ever will see the light of day on mainstream American media. So sad. The US has been doing this shit for DECADES! They're probably involved in Ukraine as well. What's even more disturbing is their links with these hyper-rich Arabian countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar - countries that not only have horrible human rights abuses but are likely involved in real terrorism (the kind that blow up buildings with thousands of people, not the kind your politicians talk about these days). 

In fact you'll see the opposite on US media, as for Qatar and Saudi Arabia, being involved in terrorism no it's not the case, as for human rights, they are some bad points but overall they are okeyish in comparison to really oppressive countries, here the big deal is geopolitical, Syria and Iran has strong ties, (Shiaa) and and Saudi Arabia Qatar, UAE ... are (Sunnit) and they are more or less enemies

[bryant.coleman]

What's even more disturbing is their links with these hyper-rich Arabian countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar - countries that not only have horrible human rights abuses but are likely involved in real terrorism (the kind that blow up buildings with thousands of people, not the kind your politicians talk about these days). 

Saudi Arabia and Qatar have been funding various extremist organisations around the globe for many decades now. They are creating ethnic tension in every nook and corner of the world. Even countries such as Indonesia and Thailand, which were previously peaceful has become terrorism hotbeds thanks to their unlimited funding of terrorist organisations. The recent actions by the US government, to discourage the purchase of the Russian pipeline gas, and attempts to replace it with the Qatari LNG is going to make actions worse.

[kuroman]

What's even more disturbing is their links with these hyper-rich Arabian countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar - countries that not only have horrible human rights abuses but are likely involved in real terrorism (the kind that blow up buildings with thousands of people, not the kind your politicians talk about these days). 

Saudi Arabia and Qatar have been funding various extremist organisations around the globe for many decades now. They are creating ethnic tension in every nook and corner of the world. Even countries such as Indonesia and Thailand, which were previously peaceful has become terrorism hotbeds thanks to their unlimited funding of terrorist organisations. The recent actions by the US government, to discourage the purchase of the Russian pipeline gas, and attempts to replace it with the Qatari LNG is going to make actions worse.

isn't the same for the US, UK ... ect that been doing this on a whole other level, there are just new comers in the geopolitical game and as an US ally, Taliban wasn't financed and formed thanks to CIA and the USA, ect ect, and even today they are just following the steps made by the US and other western countries in Syria, today, you can sense from media that our western countries are taking a step back but is it really the case? if you check the media from last year you can see that they were official statements even pushing to finance and train "the population that was fighting for freedom"

[bryant.coleman]

isn't the same for the US, UK ... ect that been doing this on a whole other level, there are just new comers in the geopolitical game and as an US ally, Taliban wasn't financed and formed thanks to CIA and the USA, ect ect, and even today they are just following the steps made by the US and other western countries in Syria, today, you can sense from media that our western countries are taking a step back but is it really the case? if you check the media from last year you can see that they were official statements even pushing to finance and train "the population that was fighting for freedom"

Although the CIA don't want to support the terrorist organizations, they are doing it in order to capture the natural resources. Just look at what happened in Libya and Iraq. Secular governments were brought down by the CIA, with the help of hard-line Islamists. If the CIA only cares about the freedom fighters, then why capture all the oil rigs and give them to American corporations?

[vokain]

All Wars Are Bankers' Wars

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isn't the same for the US, UK ... ect that been doing this on a whole other level, there are just new comers in the geopolitical game and as an US ally, Taliban wasn't financed and formed thanks to CIA and the USA, ect ect, and even today they are just following the steps made by the US and other western countries in Syria, today, you can sense from media that our western countries are taking a step back but is it really the case? if you check the media from last year you can see that they were official statements even pushing to finance and train "the population that was fighting for freedom"

Although the CIA don't want to support the terrorist organizations, they are doing it in order to capture the natural resources. Just look at what happened in Libya and Iraq. Secular governments were brought down by the CIA, with the help of hard-line Islamists. If the CIA only cares about the freedom fighters, then why capture all the oil rigs and give them to American corporations?

Where does the CIA fall in the line of overall command?

[Charlie Prime]

Where does the CIA fall in the line of overall command?

Technically, it's part of the Executive Branch of the United States Government, under command of the President, with a moral duty to follow U.S. law.

In reality, it has always been under the command of the trans-national bankers who created it decades ago, lawless, and immoral.

[bryant.coleman]

Here is the full documentary video from PBS / Frontline, if anyone is interested.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/syria-arming-the-rebels/

[Nemo1024]

On a related topic:

ISIL kills 102-year-old Syrian man in Alawite massacre – report
http://rt.com/news/162964-isil-syria-alawite-killed/

“They are not freedom fighters. They are terrorists. We, the Syrian people now experience beheadings, crucifixions, beatings, murders, outdated methods of treating women, an obsolete approach to governing society. Many who participate in these activities are British,” Free Syrian Army’s Brigadier-General Abdulellah Basheer wrote in a letter to The Times.

A reader comment:

J Faltin 02.06.2014 07:24

ISIL is amongst the people that are supposed to get more weapons from the US. If not these killers will behead competing militias for the US supplied arms.
Finally just like the French shooter in Brussels they will come back to Europe and start killing Europeans and Jews.
But that is not a worry nor a problem for the USA who sits safely across the pacific.
Anything to mess up the European social system and economy by flooding it with millions of refugees makes it easier for the US gov to make the EU a subservient economic franchise basketcase.
The bigger the mess in Europe the better for US business which cant compete

[GTA]

Where is Russia going to take this sum to give it to Syria? They don't have money now

[bryant.coleman]

A map detailing the situation in Syria.

https://pietervanostaeyen.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/20140602-000619.jpg

[Charlie Prime]

Here is the full documentary video from PBS / Frontline, if anyone is interested.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/syria-arming-the-rebels/

Total propaganda because:

- It tries to make the rebels out to be "moderate", ie. NOT Al Qaeda (while they shout Allahu Akbar! in the videos, that's how stupid they know Americans television viewers are.)

- It's from PBS.

- Jewish Zionist U.S. Ambassador Frederick Hoff tells viewers how awful it is the U.S. doesn't give them more weapons.

- In the end, it laments the fact that the U.S. hasn't been able to give Al Qaeda shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles.

[Nemo1024]

Where is Russia going to take this sum to give it to Syria? They don't have money now

Oh? Please explain.

[nickenburg]

Where is Russia going to take this sum to give it to Syria? They don't have money now

Oh? Please explain.

Yes Russia has enough money, they have no debt to the rothchild bankers, so they dont have to pay any interest.
Also they sell gas and oil to the world, and Russia doesnt have money?
And look at America they are in debt look here: http://www.usdebtclock.org/
They are doing wars with borrowed money, and it's only getting more so they also have to pay more interest!

[bryant.coleman]

Yes Russia has enough money, they have no debt to the rothchild bankers, so they dont have to pay any interest.
Also they sell gas and oil to the world, and Russia doesnt have money?
And look at America they are in debt look here: http://www.usdebtclock.org/
They are doing wars with borrowed money, and it's only getting more so they also have to pay more interest!

America is a net importer of oil and gas, while Russia is a net exporter. That helps to reduce the public debt, especially when oil hovers above $100 a barrel. Also, the American war machine consumes almost 10 times the funding for the Russian defence budget every year.

[crysissymptom]

Im surprised ther's no public outcry over support of rebels with al qaeda elements.