[ANN][LIBERTYCOIN][XLB] May 27th Dump Discussed

[IconicExpert]

Since we cannot discuss what happened on May 27th in the official Libertycoin thread, I decided to create this thread instead. A lot of people got burned badly on Tuesday including me, and we all just want some answers from the dev.

[drTEntacle]

and i haven't done that? i asked if they could show us their wallets. i too lost a lot of BTC on XLB!
if they say they are not scammers. SHOW US

+1

Yes, dear devs - I suppose this is a great opportunity to show us you are clean.
Show us strong proof - ideally one utilizing signed message for the wallet by which anyone can assure self you are real owner/s of the wallets.

It can shed necessary light now - in darkest hour of Libertycoin...
...or Libertycon?

Libertycoin was not premined. I (Templar77) own 312,000 coins which I bought in many moments investing 5 BTC. My address has been in the main thread for days. What I do with those coin is for me to decide since is my own money and not part of a premine.

LZ2suWZw4RoCVT4amdUJRzu4pLawnfQEjR
Message: Templar77
Signature: H9vHA+09vpBeCL5G5XdSFk1XaFExYlwMPI7L6xTl9DRm0ODQkbhJZYzWWt0Wm19Th3P4mbKlGmvvwpJqfdP5a/Q=

Thank you Templar77!!
I really appreciate your fast response.

Message is verified - you are real owner of the keys. Great!

Can we (as a community) come with some proof (or protocol or process) - that everyone would agree sufficiently proves all the following:
- dev X owns wallets nr.: Y, Z, ...
- the wallets are reasonably old and have adequate history
- these are "his/hers" only wallets
- they were not used for mass dumping [26th and 27th of May ]

Yes it is an open problem - but if we'd have it, we can bring more peace and good news to actual situation.

[IconicExpert]

and i haven't done that? i asked if they could show us their wallets. i too lost a lot of BTC on XLB!
if they say they are not scammers. SHOW US

+1

Yes, dear devs - I suppose this is a great opportunity to show us you are clean.
Show us strong proof - ideally one utilizing signed message for the wallet by which anyone can assure self you are real owner/s of the wallets.

It can shed necessary light now - in darkest hour of Libertycoin...
...or Libertycon?

Libertycoin was not premined. I (Templar77) own 312,000 coins which I bought in many moments investing 5 BTC. My address has been in the main thread for days. What I do with those coin is for me to decide since is my own money and not part of a premine.

LZ2suWZw4RoCVT4amdUJRzu4pLawnfQEjR
Message: Templar77
Signature: H9vHA+09vpBeCL5G5XdSFk1XaFExYlwMPI7L6xTl9DRm0ODQkbhJZYzWWt0Wm19Th3P4mbKlGmvvwpJqfdP5a/Q=

Thank you Templar77!!
I really appreciate your fast response.

Message is verified - you are real owner of the keys. Great!

Can we (as a community) come with some proof (or protocol or process) - that everyone would agree sufficiently proves all the following:
- dev X owns wallets nr.: Y, Z, ...
- the wallets are reasonably old and have adequate history
- these are "his/hers" only wallets
- they were not used for mass dumping [26th and 27th of May ]

Yes it is an open problem - but if we'd have it, we can bring more peace and good news to actual situation.

The dev could have multiple wallets, most people do. What does that prove? The day of the dump I was more outraged than the dev. If you coin was being dumped wouldn't you post something to your investors within minutes? He was in IRC joking around while the dump was happening.

[barabbas]

No I don't want any more bullshit answer for Carlitos, I have had them all already and all, no exception, are pure, raw, unadulterated bullshit. He is a scammer, he is an incompetent programmer and everyone, absolutely everyone, even those still hanging to hope, know it. He and his pal loljosh were dumping on  the 27th and surely they were dumping 2 days before -and many more- when I discovered three of the fattest wallets, with over 450k coins in each of them, had been totally emptied and destroyed. Who else could have that many coins? The answer is just one: The scammers who did not pay out the coins to the miners in the 4 days of PoW. The thing is that there were no scammers outside of Carlitos and his pal, loljosh: They were 24hash.com. They kept the coins. Some say in excess of 3 million coins total. I believe it was considerably more than that. Considerably..

Those are the scammers. That is the scam. They were just helped by the "nice" BC people. There's no other scam I know of, not even a conspiracy... just panic selling subsequent to the mess being discovered. They stole your coins, people. As simple as that. And they dumped them on you.

Worse yet, these incompetents believe they can "learn their way" through the mess and end up with a coin with anon that is no different from any other... if he, Carlitos, is able to "clone" them (those were his own words as late as a couple hours ago on IRC). Besides being a crook, this guy has no idea of coding or programming; he only copy/pastes. Everyone knows it. Polzki (and his China connection) balked and Tranzium wants to be paid for what he has done and if they don't pay him will not give it to them, so no mixer, no wallet... oh Carlitos would LOOOOVE to be able to come with it any time soon, it's just that he has NO IDEA of how to go about it. He is, I repeat, a total incompetent. But his incompetence does not excuse the fact that he IS a crook, one who not only stole your coins in the PoW phase, but also dumped them on you before and on the 2th. Make no mistake about that.

[barabbas]

Don't bother folks:

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

There's is already such a thread. And I will not delete a single post no matter what it says. That's my promise. The thread is THE CASE OF LIBERTYCOIN.

[bluestskies]

Don't bother folks:

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

There's is already such a thread. And I will not delete a single post no matter what it says. That's my promise. The threat is THE CASE OF LIBERTYCOIN.

So are you Iconic then since he started the topic and you answered?

I mean if you/Iconic have no reason to delete posts here, why would you (as a separate screen name) need access to 'moderate' it?

[gatti]

Don't bother folks:

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

There's is already such a thread. And I will not delete a single post no matter what it says. That's my promise. The threat is THE CASE OF LIBERTYCOIN.

So are you Iconic then since he started the topic and you answered?

I mean if you/Iconic have no reason to delete posts here, why would you (as a separate screen name) need access to 'moderate' it?

lol

[gatti]

Wait, my post saying not to bother got deleted. God this is confusing...

[IconicExpert]

Don't bother folks:

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

There's is already such a thread. And I will not delete a single post no matter what it says. That's my promise. The thread is THE CASE OF LIBERTYCOIN.

Every time I read that you and I are the same I just LOL. You even posted a private PM shared between us, and they still think we are the same. Such idiots...

[bluestskies]

Don't bother folks:

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

There's is already such a thread. And I will not delete a single post no matter what it says. That's my promise. The thread is THE CASE OF LIBERTYCOIN.

Every time I read that you and I are the same I just LOL. You even posted a private PM shared between us, and they still think we are the same. Such idiots...

except that literally proves nothing. if you have two accounts on any given forum, you can login as Iconic, and write the pm to your other username. Then just login as Barabbas and respond to it. Then post it as 'proof' you're different people.

I genuinely don't see how that proves anything.

What I did see is you, Iconic, start this thread, then Barabas post in it and said "I will not delete a single post" as if he started it. 

 

[tommyj1]

and i haven't done that? i asked if they could show us their wallets. i too lost a lot of BTC on XLB!
if they say they are not scammers. SHOW US

+1

Yes, dear devs - I suppose this is a great opportunity to show us you are clean.
Show us strong proof - ideally one utilizing signed message for the wallet by which anyone can assure self you are real owner/s of the wallets.

It can shed necessary light now - in darkest hour of Libertycoin...
...or Libertycon?

 "I bought in many moments investing 5 BTC. My address has been in the main thread for days"

The dev could have multiple wallets, most people do. What does that prove? The day of the dump I was more outraged than the dev. If you coin was being dumped wouldn't you post something to your investors within minutes? He was in IRC joking around while the dump was happening.

Balance: 300011.09072653 XLB
Transactions in: 17
Received: 1300014.52054557 XLB
Transactions out: 8
Sent: 1000003.42981904 XLB

2014-05-27 21:11:49 first transaction 3 days ago

[IconicExpert]

Don't bother folks:

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

There's is already such a thread. And I will not delete a single post no matter what it says. That's my promise. The threat is THE CASE OF LIBERTYCOIN.

So are you Iconic then since he started the topic and you answered?

I mean if you/Iconic have no reason to delete posts here, why would you (as a separate screen name) need access to 'moderate' it?

You know reading is comprehension. You do realize he is saying HE has a thread HE created that he will not delete posts. He was not referencing this thread. WOW people can't comprehend a simple sentence.

[tommyj1]

Don't bother folks:

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

There's is already such a thread. And I will not delete a single post no matter what it says. That's my promise. The threat is THE CASE OF LIBERTYCOIN.

So are you Iconic then since he started the topic and you answered?

I mean if you/Iconic have no reason to delete posts here, why would you (as a separate screen name) need access to 'moderate' it?

You know reading is comprehension. You do realize he is saying HE has a thread HE created that he will not delete posts. He was not referencing this thread. WOW people can't comprehend a simple sentence.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=627704.msg6986337#msg6986337

[tommyj1]

Don't bother folks:

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

There's is already such a thread. And I will not delete a single post no matter what it says. That's my promise. The threat is THE CASE OF LIBERTYCOIN.

So are you Iconic then since he started the topic and you answered?

I mean if you/Iconic have no reason to delete posts here, why would you (as a separate screen name) need access to 'moderate' it?

You know reading is comprehension. You do realize he is saying HE has a thread HE created that he will not delete posts. He was not referencing this thread. WOW people can't comprehend a simple sentence.

Quick, get back to your Barabbas account and explain it from HIS point of view.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=627704.msg6986337#msg6986337

[IconicExpert]

Don't bother folks:

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

There's is already such a thread. And I will not delete a single post no matter what it says. That's my promise. The threat is THE CASE OF LIBERTYCOIN.

So are you Iconic then since he started the topic and you answered?

I mean if you/Iconic have no reason to delete posts here, why would you (as a separate screen name) need access to 'moderate' it?

You know reading is comprehension. You do realize he is saying HE has a thread HE created that he will not delete posts. He was not referencing this thread. WOW people can't comprehend a simple sentence.

Quick, get back to your Barabbas account and explain it from HIS point of view.

Now go back in our posts and read the heated exchanges between the two of us. At one point he "hated" me...sorry but we are not the same. I have ONE account. I do not hide behind usernames...

[barabbas]

Don't bother folks:

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

There's is already such a thread. And I will not delete a single post no matter what it says. That's my promise. The threat is THE CASE OF LIBERTYCOIN.

So are you Iconic then since he started the topic and you answered?

I mean if you/Iconic have no reason to delete posts here, why would you (as a separate screen name) need access to 'moderate' it?

You know reading is comprehension. You do realize he is saying HE has a thread HE created that he will not delete posts. He was not referencing this thread. WOW people can't comprehend a simple sentence.

Quick, get back to your Barabbas account and explain it from HIS point of view.

Really you can be that idiotic. I don't know where you are geographically but if you are in the neighborhood of "iconicamateur" you both can meet me inside a police station ANY TIME, so you will know for sure. Meetiong me in person. He already knows, because he refused my multiple offers. IE lives 3,000 miles apart and I live in iconicamateur's neighborhood, so if you don't believe me, if it is inconvenient for you to meet the three of us inside a police station, you can still ask him to do so and that way you would be sure. But, wait, before you go on and say another predictable stupidity like "oh I dont care either way" and continue your stupid dribble nonsense, what would you gain with it. Or him, iconicamateur? how about some credibility. We all know he doesnt care about that because that handle is just the last of many (he is loljosh I believe), but you, do you care?

[BLACKCOIN883]

Why blame it all on IE ? I dont understand..even if you hate iconic and co ..a coin is as good as its devs, in this case the devs are shit..
fyi, all the big holders dumped when they saw the shitstorm on bct and irc coming.. when that so called "dev" (calls himself a dev at least) appeared in irc, he acted a certain way and said certain things..most of us knew enough at that point..plans were already getting made to dump and get out.. what the hell did he expect lol

scammers launch anon coin
coin isn't even anon
devs all of the sudden dont care about anon, community has to solve it
scammers see their coin getting dumped to shit
and now the dev is a "good" guy who looks for someone to help him with anon?

this is why people dont care about libertycoin no more..
I had real faith in the coin..at least the marketing was/would have been good...but to say ie ruined this coin? the devs have forced many of us to dump..amateurs with no skills..think they can get to a 10M marketcap .. smh

[barabbas]

Don't bother folks:

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

There's is already such a thread. And I will not delete a single post no matter what it says. That's my promise. The thread is THE CASE OF LIBERTYCOIN.

Every time I read that you and I are the same I just LOL. You even posted a private PM shared between us, and they still think we are the same. Such idiots...

except that literally proves nothing. if you have two accounts on any given forum, you can login as Iconic, and write the pm to your other username. Then just login as Barabbas and respond to it. Then post it as 'proof' you're different people.

I genuinely don't see how that proves anything.

What I did see is you, Iconic, start this thread, then Barabas post in it and said "I will not delete a single post" as if he started it. 

 

My response to Bulletproof applies to you exactly the same. If it inconveniences you to much and you don't live in the West Coast of the US, you can use iconicamateur as your proxy and we all get clarification, how about that. If you live in the west coast though, I much rather meet you as well. I doubt it will be a pleasure but  still. And, I repeat once more so there's no misunderstanding: In the safest place on the face of this earth, INSIDE a police station of iconicamateur's choosing.

[IconicExpert]

Why blame it all on IE ? I dont understand..even if you hate iconic and co ..a coin is as good as its devs, in this case the devs are shit..
fyi, all the big holders dumped when they saw the shitstorm on bct and irc coming.. when that so called "dev" (calls himself a dev at least) appeared in irc, he acted a certain way and said certain things..most of us knew enough at that point..plans were already getting made to dump and get out.. what the hell did he expect lol

scammers launch anon coin
coin isn't even anon
devs all of the sudden dont care about anon, community has to solve it
scammers see their coin getting dumped to shit
and now the dev is a "good" guy who looks for someone to help him with anon?

this is why people dont care about libertycoin no more..
I had real faith in the coin..at least the marketing was/would have been good...but to say ie ruined this coin? the devs have forced many of us to dump..amateurs with no skills..think they can get to a 10M marketcap .. smh

Now they will say you are me....

[XbladeX]

NOT YOU Dumped look...
You just helped someone get rid  of 800k XBL
As i said someone mined to much coins.
Generally 1st block = DEV...
http://xlb.blockexplorer.cc/address/LTevJBbHP3BZhpTARhHXDc6nt7PwmBuxhq