Want to buy 10BTC via PP

[red123]

I am trying to find a most well known exchanger to be trusted members via pay pal. I know I am a new member, hear me out.I know there is little I can say that will convince people I am not a scam. If it is any consolation my pay pal account has been established for years and is linked  to an eBay account I have had from the year 1998 with 450 transactions and 100% positive feedback. I use this account for everything.

I gamble and usually need 50 or so bitcoins a month. This offer more so to find a distributor via PP who is interested in a new client. One time deals will work but an exchanger that could build trust over time would be ideal.

Right now I have an exchanger via pay pal but his fees are kind of harsh which brings me to payment. I don't mind a small fee
but I do like competitive bitcoin rates, they help being able to afford the fees.

As far as pay pal fees I want to test the gift option I can't for the life of me find out what the fee is. I know that there are no charge backs on the gift options and so I would need a reputable member. I can do credit card or bank transfer, I think bank transfer is the lower fee.

I will Pay their fee if there is one (hopefully we can figure out the cheapest) and your fee.

Anyways I want to thank everyone who takes chances on noobs like me. As my 4 hours as a noob I read a lot on all these scams and I see some of you getting ripped but still taking chances (especially in the loan section) and it makes me happy to know this because I need someone to take a chance on me
and there is really no way for me to get credit here until someone does this. Everyone was here at one point.

Small amounts are cool, whatever anyone who is a seller here is willing to do. I'd rather deal with an older
established member but right now I just want to establish trust. Right now I am looking for about 10 bitcoins but I will happily pay for whatever little amount to get some trust
from you guys.

I will also give back some of these bitcoins through some giveaways I plan to do.

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[red123]

dolla please PM me your email or email me. I do not think I have enough posts to reply to a PM, thank you!

[red123]

Still looking.

Looking for 5-7%, and I pay PP fees.

[someone703]

I'd be willing to do this for you, but you'll have to send first as a PayPal gift (you won't get hit with fees as long as you have actual funds in your PayPal account, if you use a credit card to fund the gift they hit you with fees).

Check my post history here; I don't have much of one but I have made transactions with a few different members as well as made small loans (which probably aren't getting paid back at this rate).

Also got a heatware if you want.

Lemme know.  PMs or a response here is fine.

[red123]

Thanks for all the replies. I have send payment to user 'ne1'. He offered a great rate.

I'll keep in mind other offer if I need more soon.

Thanks so much guys.

[red123]

I received coins from 'ne1', awesome.

Thank you ne1!

[ne1]

Successful transaction.

-ne1

[P4man]

Successful transaction.

-ne1

Dont be too quick to call it successful. It will only be successful in 60 or whatever days if the OP doesnt do a chargeback.

[red123]

Successful transaction.

-ne1

Dont be too quick to call it successful. It will only be successful in 60 or whatever days if the OP doesn't do a charge back.

I agree with this but don't hold your breath. I have given all my personal info to anyone who dares ask and have even responded to people in my eBay account I have had since I was 16 in 98', with a lot of good feedback. Now I'm not saying that should be my anything around here but scammers aren't usually so 'loose' with their information. I am here to stay, in fact I need more BTC (about 10 more, if anyone can help). I jut hope pay pal doesn't make me stop using this whole personal payment no fee thing, lol. It's wonderful.

Money is not an issue whatsoever with me. I do have an issue however paying 7.50+ per bitcoin with horrendous fees. Luckily this place is filled with some awesome people where I can get lower rates and give back more to the community and my casinos .

[P4man]

I agree with this but don't hold your breath. I have given all my personal info to anyone who dares ask and have even responded to people in my eBay account I have had since I was 16 in 98', with a lot of good feedback.

so what? Personal info could be fake. And if you scam anyone here its not going to affect your ebay account. More over you can buy old ebay accounts, something pretty popular with.. scammers.

[red123]

I agree with this but don't hold your breath. I have given all my personal info to anyone who dares ask and have even responded to people in my eBay account I have had since I was 16 in 98', with a lot of good feedback.

so what? Personal info could be fake. And if you scam anyone here its not going to affect your ebay account. More over you can buy old ebay accounts, something pretty popular with.. scammers.

I'll send you a pic of my license, next to a pic of me if you sell me BTC through pay pal, how is that? What do you want other than sensitive info?
A phone call? to meet? I can do this.

Also, be aware I cannot charge back gift payments not that it matters.

I understand it's your job here to deter scams but don't deter legit people in the same process. I already stated I don't expect to recognition through an eBay account.

I am willing to give you any personal information and I give away free bitcoins here on the site and you suggest I fit a profile of a scammer? Like I said, do your job but don't deter legit people.

[P4man]

Also, be aware I cannot charge back gift payments not that it matters.

Yes you can, as per sticky.

I am willing to give you any personal information and I give away free bitcoins here on the site and you suggest I fit a profile of a scammer?

Actually yes. Of course I dont know if you are a scammer, but the fact a new person here comes to ask to buy bitcoins though paypal and immediately starts a thread with a competition to give one bitcoin away, if anything raises more red flags with me. It does seem like a cheap attempt to gain trustworthiness, and the fact you bring that up just now, reinforces that feeling.

There are plenty of ways to buy bitcoins securely, if your aim is to obtain bitcoins,  why arent you asking about those?

[red123]

Also, be aware I cannot charge back gift payments not that it matters.

Yes you can, as per sticky.

I am willing to give you any personal information and I give away free bitcoins here on the site and you suggest I fit a profile of a scammer?

Actually yes. Of course I dont know if you are a scammer, but the fact a new person here comes to ask to buy bitcoins though paypal and immediately starts a thread with a competition to give one bitcoin away, if anything raises more red flags with me. It does seem like a cheap attempt to gain trustworthiness, and the fact you bring that up just now, reinforces that feeling.

There are plenty of ways to buy bitcoins securely, if your aim is to obtain bitcoins,  why arent you asking about those?

I don't do the contests to gain trustworthiness, that is something I aim to do regularly.

Everyone has to start somewhere and people are going to have a take a risk on me at first, that's the way it is with any site really. Personally, I can at least offer things like my eBay and identity to them for taking that risk. That is all I was doing.

Only time and successful transactions will guarantee trust anything else I do is to help paranoid people such as yourself, if it doesn't help so be it. If you know scammers willing to go to my lengths to establish trustworthiness than you know some really stupid/failure of scammers who can't possibly last very long, giving out their personal information. If they do, they are preying on the dumb.

You do not know I am a scammer yet you like to suggest I am. Very disrespectful in my opinion. I am not new to bitcoin just to the site and this is how I prefer to get them, I apologize you have a problem with that.

All I ask is you wait for validations of your 'suspicions' before you throw the accusations, because it's just as bad to ruin a legit members rep as it is to scam them. It's almost another sort of scamming.

As to referring to how long I have been here, I think it's silly you put more regard into this than anything I give you. It means absolutely nothing and as new as I am, that is something I can prove.

[ne1]

I reviewed the few prior posts from red123 and did find it a little odd that he was buying btc and giving them away, but to each there own.  I come out of pocket all the time to give them away just to spread them around.  I also asked why he didn't just go mtgox->dwolla->account if this was to be a regular exchange.  He said it was a time factor and that he didn't want to wait the couple days for dwolla.  This is something I can relate to.  I like to be able to exchange quickly and spendbitcoins.com is down for update.  Hence the reason I'm selling via pp to a noob.  I also checked that the paypal address was verified.  I weighed the risks and gambled a bit with this transaction, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt and I hope I don't end up paying for the lesson learned.  Thanks for looking out p4man.

    

[ne1]

Also, I wish more people used bitcoin-otc.com Web of Trust or heatware.com to build rating.

[red123]

I reviewed the few prior posts from red123 and did find it a little odd that he was buying btc and giving them away, but to each there own.  I come out of pocket all the time to give them away just to spread them around.  I also asked why he didn't just go mtgox->dwolla->account if this was to be a regular exchange.  He said it was a time factor and that he didn't want to wait the couple days for dwolla.  This is something I can relate to.  I like to be able to exchange quickly and spendbitcoins.com is down for update.  Hence the reason I'm selling via pp to a noob.  I also checked that the paypal address was verified.  I weighed the risks and gambled a bit with this transaction, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt and I hope I don't end up paying for the lesson learned.  Thanks for looking out p4man.

    

For now what I don't pay in fees from users such as yourself, I will give back to the community.

Raising interest in the bitcoin on increases it's value anyways.

I have read many scams on this site and you guys really go out of your way to help people. Most of my contests will be pretty small but I do plan on some hefty 'Holiday' ones just for fun.

Again, thanks to all who have helped.

[P4man]

Also, I wish more people used bitcoin-otc.com Web of Trust or heatware.com to build rating.

IF sellers insisted more on this, it would happen automatically.
That said, I recently signed up for OTC and dear God, it aint easy. Im not sure Ill manage to log in a second time!

[red123]

I just now signed up for HeatWare, I don't like the IRC at ALL. Not for me. I have gotten a lot of heatware requests though so I got on.
It's under the pay pal address I have you ne1, not the one listed here. If you remember 60 days from now to leave a review.

[red123]

Also, I wish more people used bitcoin-otc.com Web of Trust or heatware.com to build rating.

IF sellers insisted more on this, it would happen automatically.
That said, I recently signed up for OTC and dear God, it aint easy. Im not sure Ill manage to log in a second time!

lol EXACTLY the reason I hate and despise it so much. I almost broke my computer and went blind reading those instructions 10 times. God forbid I ever have to to a re-install.