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June 01, 2014, 07:28:13 AM
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The above PM (with my reply) was just sent to me by Joshua Zipkin of AMT (Advanced Mining Technology, or Technologies, depending on what day it is).

I assume I have to take his threat seriously, given that Josh Zipkin is on record in stating that he's not a liar.

Serious question, folks: Should I notify the authorities?

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What is your backstory?  I hear you post about your stolen bitcoins and now some one wants to kill you.  There must be an interesting story behind this.
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June 01, 2014, 07:35:41 AM
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You're exaggerating again. He's not threatening to kill you. He's only threatening to break your arms and/or fingers.

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June 01, 2014, 07:36:28 AM
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Links to original post?

I would take it seriously if he did post that.

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June 01, 2014, 07:38:54 AM
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You're exaggerating again. He's not threatening to kill you. He's only threatening to break your arms and/or fingers.

Either I didn't read it that way, or killing somebody would accomplish the same thing, i.e.typing anything at all wont be something you'll be able do anymore, and that's not a threat.

But, for sake of argument, isn't breaking somebody's bones considered a threat?
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June 01, 2014, 07:39:49 AM
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Links to original post?

I would take it seriously if he did post that.

It was via a PM, hence the screenshot. I can screen shot it again sans my comment if that'll help, bud. Plus, theymos can verify it.
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June 01, 2014, 07:43:09 AM
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Links to original post?

I would take it seriously if he did post that.

It was via a PM, hence the screenshot. I can screen shot it again sans my comment if that'll help, bud. Plus, theymos can verify it.



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What'd you do to make this happen?
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June 01, 2014, 07:45:23 AM
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Either I didn't read it that way, or killing somebody would accomplish the same thing,
Killing someone is an awful lot of effort to go to just to stop them from typing. Breaking bones is much easier.

But, for sake of argument, isn't breaking somebody's bones considered a threat?
Yes, but the police are probably less likely to do anything about it.

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June 01, 2014, 07:48:40 AM
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What'd you do to make this happen?

I think he doesn't like my postings pertaining to him and AMT.
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Could you sue him or something?
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Internet tough guy lol  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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Looks like Josh Zipkin of AMT went offline directly after penning that PM to me.
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June 01, 2014, 08:49:08 AM
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"typing anything at all won't be something you'll be able to do anymore"

he's just threatening to come to his house and spill water on his keyboard...
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Doesn't sound like he's that far 'into' the whole killing you process, just threats at this point. I heard you could buy a flamethrower with BTC today.. 'twas on reddit.

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atleast it proves one thing, AMT are scum,

for instance alot of people hate Apple for many reasons
their itunes softare is crap
they blockd bitcoin apps
thir prices are extortionate

but do they make death threats, no,

AMT sound like scammy basement dwellers that live with their parents. no professionalism, no regard for reputation, no forward thinking about PR.

i think we should all go on a scam accusation war against AMT.. afterall, they cant kill all of us.
so if you have a blog, or contacts in all the bitcoin media sites then inform the world of your negative opinions of AMT. if they think they can stop one person from tainting their sham.. then try a few hundred.

then they would be less likely to pick on bruno as there are hundreds of other people also tainting their name. making any death threat to a single person useless

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Ye and every wow player has done my mom... internet threats and keyboard heroes
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Serious question, folks: Should I notify the authorities?
Yes please.

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Seriously, I don't care if he's just an internet tough guy that would never do anything.
I STILL think you should notify the police. Threats are threats, and if something does happen to you, and he's already in their system for threatening you; he'll be the prime suspect immediately.
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where is Brock Pierce in this story  Roll Eyes  ?




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He's practically asking you to send him to jail.  Do it, report him.  Worst case scenario could be that he makes good on his promise; never know with people these days.
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With that sort of threat I don't think you have a choice but to report it.
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i see this as just drama trolling on a forum and that people have better things to do in real life and i think that the police wont do anything about it. if something happened whether the police are informed or not, they can atleast see this forum to see who the suspect is.

the police wont do any 24 hour protection, nor would they do any contacting with other state police departments or other authorities to identify AMT to prevent anything.. so what is the point.

the best bet is to flashmob many blogs and forums to highlight AMT's shady practices.

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You're exaggerating again. He's not threatening to kill you. He's only threatening to break your arms and/or fingers.
Maybe he isn't threatening to break anything.  Maybe he is just threatening to glue his fingers with Super Glue.

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Serious question, folks: Should I notify the authorities?
Yes, absolutely, without any doubt.

In our world, there is a zero-sum game between reason and violence. When violence thrives, reason is diminished. As reason grows, violence is diminished.

If you want your children and grandchildren to live in a world governed by reason, you must do everything in your power to stop violence - including threats.

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how will they kill you via PM.
The child who send it is only 14 I think. Funny funny stuff
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The child who send it is only 14 I think.
This is 2014. Here in gun-obsessed America, our teens acquire guns and use them to kill people all the time. Sadly. I wouldn't take the chance if it was my safety being threatened.

Then again, no one I know has been stupid enough to threaten me.

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I'm sure the threat wasnt serious and was just made to scare you. If you feel it was serious report him.

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It's amazing how many tough guys there are on the internet. Luckily I have family in law enforcement so if anyone threatens me it is very easy to pursue!

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Yes, but the police are probably less likely to do anything about it.

I've had some experience with this, you don't report this kind of stuff so the police will do anything about it, you report so you can establish a history in case something does happen. If you are ever involved in an incident, and need to defend yourself in court, or in an investigation, being able to produce a history that's already on the record is invaluable to be able to show that you did fear injury or death.  

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fwiw I heard about AMT due to some pennsylvania or delaware local news headline about some mining company not delivering and a district court case


so I'd say AMT Miners anger/threats are misdirected, if anything.
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Call the Sandwich Police.

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where is Brock Pierce in this story  Roll Eyes  ?




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Exactly, inquiring minds want to know.

One scenario would be that some other knocks me off, whereupon Joshua Zipkin would get the blame, of which has a Weiss in family.
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You should report it to the police. It is not serious now, but it could get ugly. In the bitcoin world, he could very easily transfer a few bitcoins and have you "hurt" within seconds. You could in return find his address, which you seemed to do so well too, and send him a bouquet of flowers Cool
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You should report it to the police. It is not serious now, but it could get ugly. In the bitcoin world, he could very easily transfer a few bitcoins and have you "hurt" within seconds. You could in return find his address, which you seemed to do so well too, and send him a bouquet of flowers Cool

Agree with this guy. The Police will most likely put you under surveillance. And if anything happens, the obvious is stated. Should also DoX him, to get leverage over 'em.
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Someone buy that sum-beeyotch a razor and a diet plan!  Stat!
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They just let us watch american beauty. I keep thinkin PG remine me of Cernal Fitts.  he hatin everyone for a reson.

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I just got off the phone with the Sandwich, IL, PD, and the women concurs that all they can do is take a statement so that the information in on file.

First, I have staff on this forum steal my 1,132 BTC, now I have an unstable Bulgarian wanting to kill me. Here's proof as to how unstable Joshua Zipkin truly is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Dgp43QMzc
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I just got the phone with the Sandwich, IL, PD, and the women concurs that all they can do is take a statement so that the information in on file.

First, I have staff on this forum steal my 1,132 BTC, now I have an unstable Bulgarian wanting to kill me. Here's proof as to how unstable Joshua Zipkin truly is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Dgp43QMzc

Glad you reported it. Also glad you reported it here. I will never do business with anyone associated with them.

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atleast it proves one thing, AMT are scum,

for instance alot of people hate Apple for many reasons
their itunes softare is crap
they blockd bitcoin apps
thir prices are extortionate

but do they make death threats, no,

AMT sound like scammy basement dwellers that live with their parents. no professionalism, no regard for reputation, no forward thinking about PR.

i think we should all go on a scam accusation war against AMT.. afterall, they cant kill all of us.
so if you have a blog, or contacts in all the bitcoin media sites then inform the world of your negative opinions of AMT. if they think they can stop one person from tainting their sham.. then try a few hundred.

then they would be less likely to pick on bruno as there are hundreds of other people also tainting their name. making any death threat to a single person useless

You should have a look at this http://gizmodo.com/5427058/apple-gestapo-how-apple-hunts-down-leaks


As far as Bruno, you should (as I see you have already) report it. At the very least it creates a history in case God forbid anything happens.

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June 02, 2014, 05:55:45 AM
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What the fuck was the point of the Mountain Dew video.

This is retarded.

Break your own arms bro do the keyboard and this board a favor.
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June 02, 2014, 08:38:24 PM
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Aaaaahahahahaha.



It's like a real life Roman 'Bellic.
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Wait no, that's not right.


Even Roman Bellic would find a better fitting suit.
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June 03, 2014, 01:35:58 AM
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Aaaaahahahahaha.



It's like a real life Roman 'Bellic.


"And, after I stick this finger in my eye, I'm going to try and kill Bruno Kucinskas."
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June 03, 2014, 01:38:38 AM
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You're exaggerating again. He's not threatening to kill you. He's only threatening to break your arms and/or fingers.

Either I didn't read it that way, or killing somebody would accomplish the same thing, i.e.typing anything at all wont be something you'll be able do anymore, and that's not a threat.

But, for sake of argument, isn't breaking somebody's bones considered a threat?

Technically, breaking off the arms and/or fingers won't completely stop a person's ability to type.  They would have to disable every single part of the body that COULD touch and push down on a keyboard.  So yeah, it kind of is a death threat Roll Eyes
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You're exaggerating again. He's not threatening to kill you. He's only threatening to break your arms and/or fingers.

Either I didn't read it that way, or killing somebody would accomplish the same thing, i.e.typing anything at all wont be something you'll be able do anymore, and that's not a threat.

But, for sake of argument, isn't breaking somebody's bones considered a threat?

Technically, breaking off the arms and/or fingers won't completely stop a person's ability to type.  They would have to disable every single part of the body that COULD touch and push down on a keyboard.  So yeah, it kind of is a death threat Roll Eyes

With voice recognition software you might have to go even further.

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