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August 02, 2014, 12:38:34 PM
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Here are publicly available FPGA source code for most/all of the algorithms: http://cryptography.gmu.edu/athena/index.php?id=source_codes
not new... and that still doesn't proof anything  Grin
(and fpga perf would be about the same as a gpu... )

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August 02, 2014, 12:42:07 PM
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I also have Asic x11  Grin

6x750Ti - x11 - 410W

[2014-07-29 00:43:44] Stratum detected new block
[2014-07-29 00:43:44] GPU #5: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2653 khash/s
[2014-07-29 00:43:44] GPU #4: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2659 khash/s
[2014-07-29 00:43:44] GPU #1: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2653 khash/s
[2014-07-29 00:43:44] GPU #3: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2669 khash/s
[2014-07-29 00:43:44] GPU #2: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2642 khash/s
[2014-07-29 00:43:44] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2659 khash/s
[2014-07-29 00:43:46] accepted: 5/5 (100.00%), 15913 kh/s (13402-46) - Yay



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17.8m/s

seem more ... Grin
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August 02, 2014, 02:46:42 PM
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Even if FPGA are here, 750ti's at less than $150 a pop are doing just fine right now.  FPGAs won't kill GPUs, just like they didn't kill them with SHA.  Wasn't til ASICs that GPUs couldn't do SHA.  Same here.  Stop the FUD.

Asics won't kill GPUs but all the scam coins will kill GPUs.
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August 05, 2014, 07:17:31 AM
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https://www.betarigs.com/rig/8115
It seems like progress is not standing still.
28 MH/s per board already.  Shocked
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August 05, 2014, 04:38:23 PM
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Even if FPGA are here, 750ti's at less than $150 a pop are doing just fine right now.  FPGAs won't kill GPUs, just like they didn't kill them with SHA.  Wasn't til ASICs that GPUs couldn't do SHA.  Same here.  Stop the FUD.

Asics won't kill GPUs but all the scam coins will kill GPUs.

Well, maybe.  But I guess that depends on what all you are calling "scam coins".  Some people would argue that there are no real coins left to GPU mine.  Others would say new altcoins help GPU miners stay in business.  It's the blessing and curse of the free market I suppose...

https://www.betarigs.com/rig/8115
It seems like progress is not standing still.
28 MH/s per board already.  Shocked

Certainly has people taking note...
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August 06, 2014, 04:09:40 PM
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How much would one of these 280W 28Mhs FPGA boards cost?

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August 06, 2014, 04:47:20 PM
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Well, maybe.  But I guess that depends on what all you are calling "scam coins".  Some people would argue that there are no real coins left to GPU mine.  Others would say new altcoins help GPU miners stay in business.  It's the blessing and curse of the free market I suppose...


True , and with more and more pump n dump coins in the market , ROI on GPU is getting even more difficult.
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August 06, 2014, 09:36:53 PM
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Well, maybe.  But I guess that depends on what all you are calling "scam coins".  Some people would argue that there are no real coins left to GPU mine.  Others would say new altcoins help GPU miners stay in business.  It's the blessing and curse of the free market I suppose...


True , and with more and more pump n dump coins in the market , ROI on GPU is getting even more difficult.

there is no ROI anymore for GPU
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August 07, 2014, 03:41:06 AM
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I just got 10 MH/s worth of power... wonder how fast the new asics will be. Right now I'm getting pretty nice returns.

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August 07, 2014, 03:46:24 AM
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550 GH/s on X11 MultiWalletCoin

X11 fpga working now?
Testing?
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August 07, 2014, 05:59:38 AM
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http://www.subeimagenes.com/thumb/multiwallet-1049222.jpg
550 GH/s on X11 MultiWalletCoin

X11 fpga working now?
Testing?


Don't think that FPGA have too much power as for now.
We have only 8 boards @28MH/s.  Cool
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August 07, 2014, 09:56:47 AM
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550 GH/s on X11 MultiWalletCoin

X11 fpga working now?
Testing?


Don't think that FPGA have too much power as for now.
We have only 8 boards @28MH/s.  Cool


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August 07, 2014, 10:50:34 AM
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550 GH/s on X11 MultiWalletCoin

X11 fpga working now?
Testing?


Don't think that FPGA have too much power as for now.
We have only 8 boards @28MH/s.  Cool


yeah... some pics would be nice.
They know how to program fpga but aren't able to take a picture...  Roll Eyes
(and this has been going for month...)

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November 02, 2014, 03:13:56 PM
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If you look at the number of FPGA logical elements needed to implement each of the X11 algorithms ( see the Athena source code link posted earlier ) and then look at the number of LE's available on all the affordable Xilinx and Altera FPGA devices you'll notice that it'd be hard to fit more than one or two of the unrolled X11 algorithms into a single FPGA. So you'd have to assume that any X11 FPGA implementation would take multiple FPGAs and require software coordination between them to implement the X11 suite. Additionally, because of the chained nature of the X11 algorithm, you'd be performing these 11 algorithms in series, so the speed of the device would be limited to the speed of the slowest algorithm. If you refer again to the Athena source code, you'll see some performance metrics for the various implementations.

These two observations should allow you to assess the relative cost and performance of a hypothetical X11 FPGA implementation.
My takeaway when I looked at this problem is that even though source code for the different algorithms exists in the pubic domain, a full implementation of the X11 suite in a multi-fpga PCI-e based system using commercially available prototyping boards  ( for example, http://www.terasic.com.tw/cgi-bin/page/archive.pl?Language=English&CategoryNo=205&No=816 or http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards-and-kits/EK-S6-SP605-G.htm ) would be fairly expensive and not blazingly fast.

On the other hand, if you were prepared to implement a custom board with the right mix of inexpensive Xilinx or Altera FPGAs instead of using commercially available development kits and manufacture in quantity so you could get good prices on the FPGA components, then it might be worthwhile.

Thats my take away. YMMV.
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November 02, 2014, 10:14:49 PM
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November 02, 2014, 11:25:36 PM
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Break through the profitability barrier at a supersonic hash rate of 600,000 KH/s

Is that similar to 'Brace For Impact' ?

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November 06, 2014, 06:52:23 AM
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Mandatory #Urocoin $URO wallet upgrade to v1.0.2.3 required before 08 NOV 2014. Please RT and spread
https://github.com/urocoin/uro/releases/tag/1.0.2.3 @BittrexExchange @cryptsy

https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/530185048486461442

why put this shit here. no1 cares as this is a thread about X11 FPGA not URO....
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November 07, 2014, 04:41:40 PM
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Mandatory #Urocoin $URO wallet upgrade to v1.0.2.3 required before 08 NOV 2014. Please RT and spread
https://github.com/urocoin/uro/releases/tag/1.0.2.3 @BittrexExchange @cryptsy

https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/530185048486461442

why put this shit here. no1 cares as this is a thread about X11 FPGA not URO....

yeah indeed gtfo with your URO scam coin

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November 09, 2014, 12:52:55 PM
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There are X11 FPGAs running in the wild.

http://www.getacoder.com/projects/fpga%20miner%20for%20x_164338.html


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November 09, 2014, 01:20:33 PM
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sorry  Grin
But this isn't a proof of anything.
Asking for someone to code something is entirely different from having the code and hardware working.

and the funny thing is that they are asking for c++ code for fpga

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