In Stock, Dragon 1T shipped out for 1749$

[nwfella]

Did you find out if you can give a better price without a powersupply?

Same question

Also interested in whether or not pricing available for a unit without power supply?

[BitcoinPappi]

Whats going on, you have been online yet are not answering any questions? Credibility is important if you want to be a successful reseller.

Sorry, I was busy uploading pictures.

LKETC dropped their price on their international website, it is now cheaper to buy from them directly then from any reseller.

I like to earn some extra cash from other miners, but if I sell it to you for 1749 and they sell it for 1599.88, I am ripping people off.
And I don't like to earn that kind of money.

Not a lot of resellers have this mentality. Good to see it on the forums

[cannachris]

Very interested! I'll see if I can sell of some of the 10 ants I have running here by now since I recently blew my fuses. Thx for the pleaseant trade we had, hoe bevalt china tot nu toe?

I assume you have a steady supply?

BTW, can you get your hands on scrypt a2 terminator miners for less than 1000$ (the limit on my creditcard)

[Easy2Mine]

Very interested! I'll see if I can sell of some of the 10 ants I have running here by now since I recently blew my fuses. Thx for the pleaseant trade we had, hoe bevalt china tot nu toe?

I assume you have a steady supply?

BTW, can you get your hands on scrypt a2 terminator miners for less than 1000$ (the limit on my creditcard)

Hi Chris,

It is hot here in China, dirty and most of all, they don't have good coffee like we have in The Netherlands.
I haven't look into script, because I am a pure BTC miner.
Their are a lot scrypt manufacturers now, price will fall like with BTC Asic before.
A2 chips are manufactured by Innosilicon and they are the greedy ones, price will not fall untill Silverfish gets into full production.

I will be back in The Netherlands at 29 june, I need to end the hosting of my Jupiters in Zoetermeer so I will be in the near of Leiden.
I will take some souvenir from China.

[zolace]

I dont understand these are awesome prices I get miners for 1600 people bitching to get lower, when others have to eat too, People are selfish in making money for only themselves.  you can make ur money back in two months with prices like these.   

[samsonn25]

Probably because the average 1th machine will only Roi about $1100 USD or 1.9 btc.

[Glizlack]

Easy Mine I see where people are having trouble with LKETC I know your not with them but do you have any insight to them using under spec power supplies? Also I have seen rumours of a june 20 release of a more powerfull machine. Your closer to the action have you seen or been told of any of this?

Steve

[zolace]

Easy Mine I see where people are having trouble with LKETC I know your not with them but do you have any insight to them using under spec power supplies? Also I have seen rumours of a june 20 release of a more powerfull machine. Your closer to the action have you seen or been told of any of this?

Steve

im close to the action too and no is not anytime soon, on my side anyways

[Easy2Mine]

Easy Mine I see where people are having trouble with LKETC I know your not with them but do you have any insight to them using under spec power supplies? Also I have seen rumours of a june 20 release of a more powerfull machine. Your closer to the action have you seen or been told of any of this?

Steve

Innosilicon design the A1 chip and give the factories reference design of the casing and other stuff.
Thats why all the Dragon 1T miners looks the same.
Instead of designing their own casing with better airflow and cheaper to build they all follow the reference design.
There are 3 major design flaws in the current case design, almost anyone who has build their own rigs before for bitcoin mining using GPU's will see those design flaws and correct them.
All the factories are struggling with the noise of the casefans, they try their best to lower the noise by experimenting with different brands of case fans, but will not succeed.
Simply because they don't understand anything about airflow and air pressure.

They have a small batch of 200 under spec PSU's, but they have replace all those miners with correct working ones, once they found out those PSU's are not good enough.
Those miners are from earlier may, they have shipped me 1200 watt PSU from InWin for replacement afterwards before the under spec PSU's stopped working.
All my miners have 1200 watt PSU.

I don't have heard anything about a more powerfull machine released by LKETC on 20 june, Gridseed however will release a 1100 G machine on 20 june.
I have already a 2T Avalon Gen3 miner hashing since yesterday.
I only bought that to proove to the community that it exist and that the factory producing them is legit.
They have problems with communicating, because English is not their first language.
I pay full price for the miner just to let the community knows that you do have choices in different miners and that you do not need to pre-order.

[zolace]

easy2mine power seems to be the problem with miners, and I think is because our governements do have cheaper energy but they the big oil and eletric companies pay these inventions from coming out to save people money on electric.  This sucks lol.

[Glizlack]

Thanks for the answers guys. Easyminer how are you liking the 2t miner you just got? Any advantages in pricing/ wattage? My power is fairly cheap .1025 kwh so power is a bit less important but still something to consider. Are you going to be doing group buys on the bigger rockbox or do you have another miner in mind?

steve

[Easy2Mine]

Thanks for the answers guys. Easyminer how are you liking the 2t miner you just got? Any advantages in pricing/ wattage? My power is fairly cheap .1025 kwh so power is a bit less important but still something to consider. Are you going to be doing group buys on the bigger rockbox or do you have another miner in mind?

steve

Sorry for not having time to update that thread, I bought that Avalon 2T miner just to let the community know the company selling them is legit.
The build quality is good execpt for the Rasberry Pi part, but they use too many metals, its 40 kilo.
At least 15 kilo too much if they have done the design right.
I am putting the Avalon in an isolated chamber to let the heat build up to see how it reacts on temperature.
It use Delta server PWM fans, it get noisy if the intake temperature is warmer than 30 degree Celsius, about 60 dB.
It's freaking hot in that room, 45 degree Celsius, at that intake temperature, the Avalon 2T hash at 1.6-1.7 Terahash.
The Avalon is very temperature related, if the intake temperature is below 30 degree Celsius it hash between 1.9-2.0 Terahash.

They use 300 chips in this miner, the old 820 Ghash Avalon only use 105 chips.
This miner can be overclocked if the condition is right.

I still have to measure it with a Kill-A-Watt.

I have been busy with ordering metal racks and placing them, my farm is growing bigger.
I need to find a new place, I will post picture of new place.

[Easy2Mine]

What I have found and wanted to rent. 400 square meter for 4000 renminbi a month for the whole third floor.
My brother in law told me that area is very poor and has a lot burglary.





Pictures inside the building I wanted to rent

This will probably the place for the new farm, it's a toy factory from a friend of my brother in law, he is going to relocate his factory to a bigger place.
Now I am looking how we can do the rewiring first, before renting it.

[Easy2Mine]

Sold 2 Dragons 1T to Squall1066 with hosting trans ID 3d853c3564742c3bb75d512ed2b100129e863086200721ace08fa9afc2644030

I normally don't do hosting, but the buyer bought a lot from me in the past, so I made an exception.
Just need to figure out how to setup secure remote access and then I can offer it to you all.
I don't want anyone looking into other miners.

[Maidak]

I"ve sent you a PM looking forward to hearing back also sent a request on skype interested in 1 of these miners.

[Easy2Mine]

I"ve sent you a PM looking forward to hearing back also sent a request on skype interested in 1 of these miners.

Add you at Skype.

[squall1066]

Sold 2 Dragons 1T to Squall1066 with hosting trans ID 3d853c3564742c3bb75d512ed2b100129e863086200721ace08fa9afc2644030

I normally don't do hosting, but the buyer bought a lot from me in the past, so I made an exception.
Just need to figure out how to setup secure remote access and then I can offer it to you all.
I don't want anyone looking into other miners.

I confirm this, Thanks alot easy2mine, It is on my pool and hashing nicely.

[Easy2Mine]

LKETC increase their price to 1785.96 shipped paid via bank wire or 3.33 BTC with bitcoin.

[2dogs]

Probably because the average 1th machine will only Roi about $1100 USD or 1.9 btc.

Please clarify - Does this mean one machine will return 1.9BTC over and above the initial investment?
Or will it produce only 1.9BTC leaving a loss after subtracting initial investment?
Thanks.

[Easy2Mine]

Probably because the average 1th machine will only Roi about $1100 USD or 1.9 btc.

Please clarify - Does this mean one machine will return 1.9BTC over and above the initial investment?
Or will it produce only 1.9BTC leaving a loss after subtracting initial investment?
Thanks.

If you follow BITMAIN post about their calculation of ROI, you will understand a lot things, but you need to have access to electricity cheaper than 20 dollar cent, which a lot country don't have that low.
To be competive, you need to live either in the United States or China to have access to cheap electricity.
Avoid import tax, American don't paid import tax if it is shipping from China.
Avoid shipping cost.
Best option is to host it somewhere without paying shipping cost and import tax.
I can sell Dragons for 1599 and host it for 135 dollar per month.
I am looking into remote access at the moment, people can change their own pool without me doing it for them.