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October 07, 2014, 02:11:44 PM
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Is CounterParty (XCP) severely undervalued?

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October 07, 2014, 02:23:30 PM
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Is CounterParty (XCP) severely undervalued?

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Not now anymore,  its in a bubble.
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October 07, 2014, 02:41:16 PM
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Is CounterParty (XCP) severely undervalued?

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Not now anymore,  its in a bubble.
don't worry, it will come back down to earth soon. I think it has a chance to stay relevant for a long time, but they need to appeal to many more people first.
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October 07, 2014, 03:43:36 PM
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Is CounterParty (XCP) severely undervalued?

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Not now anymore,  its in a bubble.
don't worry, it will come back down to earth soon. I think it has a chance to stay relevant for a long time, but they need to appeal to many more people first.
Counterparty's user base will not be the e-commerce end-consumer like with Bitcoin but the trader on wall street. You don't have to appeal to a mass here and still have huge value.

I'd encourage you to read the last three pages of this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg9117646;topicseen#msg9117646 to form an opinion where it will go long term.
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October 07, 2014, 04:00:12 PM
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Trading on Counterparty is certainly not a breeze, with Bitcoin's long blocks.
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November 12, 2014, 09:37:55 PM
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    Added latest news updates--

12th November 2014


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  • In addition to purchase of blockchain-tradeable precious metals verified owners of physical gold bars and gold coins can now trade their gold for bitcoin (tradeable p2p via XCP) using the DigitalTangible’s Web Wallet and network of gold dealers for same day settlement. Partnered with premier precious metals dealer Agora Commodities, DigitalTangible now offers a completely FinCEN compliant precious metals route into bitcoins.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20141112005418/en/DigitalTangible-Launches-Bitcoin4Gold-Service#.VGPOFmSsU4R

  • Major milestone reached – the 100,000th transaction on the Counterparty network!
http://counterparty.io/news/counterparty-recreates-ethereums-smart-contract-platform-on-bitcoin/

  • Counterparty announced that its developers have successfully ported the Ethereum Project’s programming language over to the Counterparty platform, enabling users to save and execute Turing Complete Ethereum code on the Bitcoin blockchain
http://counterparty.io/news/counterparty-recreates-ethereums-smart-contract-platform-on-bitcoin/
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/11/12/bitbeat-bitcoin-2-0-firm-counterparty-adopts-ethereums-software/

  • CounterWallet Chinese translation complete
https://counterwallet.io/?lang=zh_cn

  • Rick Falkvinge, the author of Swarmwise (inspiration for Ethereum) and founder of the Pirate Party, plans on shaking up the world with his new project called SwarmOps, shares of which are available on CounterParty
http://bitcoinmagazine.com/17956/swarm-1-rick-falkvinges-swarmops-project

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November 12, 2014, 10:05:12 PM
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http://counterparty.io/news/counterparty-recreates-ethereums-smart-contract-platform-on-bitcoin/


ALL IN!!!

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November 12, 2014, 11:11:06 PM
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Great work XCP team and without 25,000BTC.
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November 12, 2014, 11:50:16 PM
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XCP sounds very interesting to me. Dedicated dev team by the sound of it, and this will be key to keeping things going.
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November 13, 2014, 09:36:41 AM
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XCP sounds very interesting to me. Dedicated dev team by the sound of it, and this will be key to keeping things going.

They have the same motivation to make XCP succeed as any other serious investor. They put their own money into the project, instead of using investor funds. This ought to make them much more dedicated, since they have something to lose.  Wink

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November 13, 2014, 10:04:02 PM
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Is CounterParty (XCP) severely undervalued?

yes

And the answer is still yes at this point.
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November 14, 2014, 09:21:24 AM
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Is CounterParty (XCP) severely undervalued?

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And the answer is still yes at this point.

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I'm guessing > $100

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February 06, 2015, 12:13:40 PM
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At this moment in time, XCP is the low 0.005x (0.0051-0.0052) range. I personally believe it's quite clearly oversold and would consider it a comfortable cold-storage purchase right now. .


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June 13, 2015, 08:37:23 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/RPHRlK8.png

Last week, while everyone was Reddit arguing over the block size non-issue, a rather substantial piece of news slipped under the radar.

 Symbiont Raises $1.25M Seed Funding from Former NYSE CEO for ‘Smart Securities’ on the Blockchain

As Bitcoin Magazine reports:

In March, Bitcoin Magazine reported that Counterparty founders had joined with MathMoney f(x) and its founder Mark Smith as co-founders of the new fintech company Symbiont

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Symbiont has announced that it has secured $1.25 million of seed funding from influential financial market leaders including Duncan Niederauer, former CEO of the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE). A ‘Series A’ round of institutional investment is expected to close in the third quarter of 2015.

So why is this a big deal? Anyone who follows Counterparty would have seen this post on March 10: Announcing Symbiont – Building the Next-Generation Platform for Financial Markets

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With the approaching release of the Turing Complete smart contracts system on mainnet, we are at the point where less work needs to be done on the core protocol and more on tools and services that make use of it.

Symbiont is our next step in that direction. Because Symbiont’s technology platform will be based around Counterparty, the core Counterparty technology will remain open source, and will benefit from the greatly increased resources and sustainability this change brings.

We’re all very excited about the potential positive impacts not only to Counterparty, but to the blockchain’s adoption in the systems that power modern finance…

And then on March 31st, this was released: Symbiont Creates Ripple Gateway for Counterparty XCP

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"Symbiont.io, the blockchain based FinTech startup bridging the gap between mainstream finance and crypto-financial technology, has announced its first product: a Ripple Gateway for Counterparty, over which XCP, Counterparty’s native currency, or any other Counterparty asset may be sent.

“Symbiont is proficient with all of the most advanced technologies in crypto-finance, and is always ready to use the right tool for the job. With this marriage of the Counterparty and Ripple networks, each benefits from compatibility with the other, and the whole is greater than the sum of its parts,”…

In summary, Symbiont is working with all of the leading technologies in crypto-finance (so others besides Counterparty too such as Hyperledger, Ripple, Sidechains. Being that the founders of Symbiont are also the founders of Counterparty, we would expect a large number of their projects to be XCP based. They also have an intimate knowledge of the technology, being that they built it.

For anyone who doesn’t know the intimate inner workings of Counterparty, here is a fact worth knowing (in regards to scarcity):

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XCP is the fuel for smart contracts. When smart contracts are running, fuel is used for each execution step. Appropriately enough, this fuel is burned (destroyed). This means that the supply of XCP is continously decreasing. However, the cost of fuel adjusts proportionally as the supply of XCP goes down, so that it cannot reach 0

So how does this relate to pumps and dumps? While everyone was busy fucking around with worthless alt coins, investors who look at the fundamentals and pay attention to worthy news, were busy accumulating XCP.

It’s pretty clear, with the XCP price near all time lows the last few months, that anyone who believes in the Counterparty technology should have been taking advantage of the sale. With a $1.25m seed round from very prominent investors, and a Series A coming in Q3 (estimated), Symbiont has plenty of funding and backing to pursue a variety of Counterparty based projects. The XCP all time high spike was caused by the Medici news, which was far less significant than the recent news regarding Symbiont, and the relationship they have with Counterparty. Granted, that ATH spike was definitely attributed to some FOMO from the simultaneous BTC bubble, we see at least some upward movement from here. We don’t have a target, don’t care to make one, aren’t investment advisers and don’t give investment advice.

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"We're also working on private blockchains and 'known' networks, as we think that might be a better application of the technology for some institutions. The idea with smart securities is that the battery comes included: to create contracts that can act on the blockchain autonomously, from issuance and corporate actions to decentralized secondary trading, clearing, settlement and transfer."
Smith says the early target is illiquid securities and funding activities — including both traditional venture-capital and crowdfunded private-equity transactions, as well as other applications like merchant banking, intercompany funding, and syndicated loans. The firm is already integrated into multiple tier-one banks' development programs and blockchain pilots. Many are focused on smaller use cases that don't already have processing intermediation in place, relying instead on spreadsheets and fax, and at least a few should be implemented by year's end.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/20836/ubs-bank-experimenting-smart-bonds-using-bitcoin-blockchain/

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Smart-bonds are one of the first publicly confirmed technologies the Swiss banking giant is said to be exploring since the launch of The innovation Lab in April to explore how blockchain technologies could improve the banking sector. The creation of the lab came after the publishing of an extensive report about the benefits of the blockchain by the international bank.

When the report was published, UBS Group CIO Oliver Bussmann told the Wall Street Journal, “I believe – and this is my personal view – that blockchain technology will not only change the way we do payments, but it will change the whole trading and settlement topic.”
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June 13, 2015, 09:44:17 PM
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With the low proces of recently i decided to buy some a few days ago. Seems to have started a uphill climb, good to see there is actually a good explanation for this!
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June 13, 2015, 10:26:59 PM
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Most people seem to think that their favorite coin is undervalued, but it's usually not. If anything, it's usually overvalued.

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June 13, 2015, 10:48:51 PM
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Picked some up, looks promising!
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June 15, 2015, 12:44:05 PM
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Most people seem to think that their favorite coin is undervalued, but it's usually not. If anything, it's usually overvalued.

Most people haven't picked a coin that has investments from an ex-NYSE CEO and the second largest hedgefund manager in the world. Or a team from Coinbase and Lockheed. Or a cooperation with the banking industry. Or the support of the founder of MathMoney f(x).

XCP is clearly undervalued.

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June 18, 2015, 05:57:36 AM
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Is Project Medici still happening?
 

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June 19, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
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the only useful way to price xcp is by expected value.


the targeted (securities) market is in market cap huge. you can try to estimate what percentage of the marketshare the symbiont/counterparty connection can achieve under what circumstances. I assume you get very little numbers percentage-wise, but due to the huge market cap of the targeted market it is still for a long time an investment with a positive expected value.

these analysis is probably useful for 3-4 coins which have intrinsic value.
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